+ConnieBaumann Posted May 2 Posted May 2 I am creating a geocache. People will need to find numbers in the area to unlock the lock on the geocache box. Would this be considered traditional or mystery? We prefer to keep it a traditional so its easier to setup. Thanks for the help! Quote
Keystone Posted May 3 Posted May 3 A Traditional Cache is defined as being located AT the posted coordinates. A Traditional Cache with an "extra step," like figuring out a lock combination, can be listed with the "Field Puzzle" attribute or, in some communities, as a Mystery Cache. If someone has to "find numbers in the area," this might qualify as a Traditional with Field Puzzle Attribute IF all of the numbers are easily visible by someone standing at ground zero. For example, there's a sign on a tree or post at ground zero, and the numbers from the sign provide the combination to open the lock on the cache, that's located at the bottom of that tree or post. If the "numbers in the area" are at various locations more than a few feet from Ground Zero, then this would not be a Traditional Cache. In many communities, this would best be listed as a Multi-Cache. 1 2 Quote
+Max and 99 Posted May 3 Posted May 3 (edited) 3 hours ago, ConnieBaumann said: I am creating a geocache. People will need to find numbers in the area to unlock the lock on the geocache box. Would this be considered traditional or mystery? We prefer to keep it a traditional so its easier to setup. Thanks for the help! My vote is a Traditional with a field puzzle. With the data they need to unlock very very close. One of mine like this says something like: what is the name of the highway you are next to? Really easy. Edited May 3 by Max and 99 1 Quote
+niraD Posted May 3 Posted May 3 4 hours ago, ConnieBaumann said: I am creating a geocache. People will need to find numbers in the area to unlock the lock on the geocache box. Would this be considered traditional or mystery? We prefer to keep it a traditional so its easier to setup. Thanks for the help! Consider the mindset of someone who has a list of traditional caches ("located at the posted coordinates"), chooses yours, and arrives at the posted coordinates, ready to find the container, sign the log, and move on to the next traditional cache on the list. Will this person be happy to discover a locked geocache box? Consider the mindset of someone who has a list of mystery/puzzle caches, chooses yours, and arrives at the posted coordinates, ready to figure out the combination to a lock, open the container, sign the log, and move on to the next mystery/puzzle cache on the list. Will this person be happy to discover a locked geocache box? Being easier to setup is a very short term benefit that lasts only while you're setting up the listing. Helping seekers discover geocaches that they're happy to find is a long term benefit that last for the life of your geocache. 1 2 Quote
+arisoft Posted May 3 Posted May 3 (edited) 10 hours ago, ConnieBaumann said: We prefer to keep it a traditional so its easier to setup. Creating a multi or mystery cache is not so difficult that it could be a basis for this choise. If the cache is at GZ and it can be opened when a player stays at the GZ, for example, by trying all combinations of the lock, it is a traditional cache. Edited May 3 by arisoft Quote
+Col. Flagg Posted May 3 Posted May 3 Definitely not a traditional. I would go with a mystery or multi, you could even do a letterbox hybrid as well. 1 Quote
+arisoft Posted May 3 Posted May 3 48 minutes ago, Col. Flagg said: Definitely not a traditional. I would go with a mystery or multi, you could even do a letterbox hybrid as well. Usually these are mysteries. But, if you need a D5 traditional for statistics, because challenges, this is a good choise. Quote
+baer2006 Posted May 3 Posted May 3 4 hours ago, arisoft said: Usually these are mysteries. But, if you need a D5 traditional for statistics, because challenges, this is a good choise. In my home area, caches with the container at the posted coordinates, which can only be opened after solving some kind of riddle/puzzle at the location, have always been high-D traditionals. If you have to move around to figure out the solution to the field puzzle, it would probably be either a multi (if the clues' locations are given) or a mystery (if not). 1 Quote
+thebruce0 Posted May 5 Posted May 5 Challenges are kind of an exception, as they may or may not be at the posted coordinates but must be a Mystery type regardless. Traditionals are typically better listed as such when they are field puzzles with everything needed at the coordinates (and usually a higher D). Sometimes extreme stealth or camouflage could lead to a higher D as well; all while being at GZ. Quote
+The_Jumping_Pig Posted May 5 Posted May 5 3 hours ago, thebruce0 said: may or may not be at the posted coordinates Not anymore. (Or at least they can't be puzzle caches anymore) "The container must be placed at coordinates on the cache page, either as posted coordinates, or as a visible final waypoint" Quote
+thebruce0 Posted May 5 Posted May 5 38 minutes ago, The_Jumping_Pig said: "The container must be placed at coordinates on the cache page, either as posted coordinates, or as a visible final waypoint" ie, not at posted coordinates. Yes, a challenge cache can be at an additional waypoint as long as it's publicly visible with the listing. Thus my comment literally: "may or may not be at the posted coordinates." Quote
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