Can Challenge Caches be based on the number of hides a cacher has placed? Or are they only based on hides?

[+edexter]

Do the rules allow a challenge cache based on the number or types of caches a cacher has placed, rather than found?  Are they specifically barred?

I see that rule 2.12.8 disallows " challenges specifically excluding any segment of cachers"  and a cacher who hasn't placed any caches would be excluded, but this same rule actually applies to all challenge caches by definition, so...Seems like this might be a very simple  way to encourage cache placement by folks who haven't.

edexter

[Rock Chalk]

Challenge caches based on cache ownership are a no-go. See 10. Source of Criteria:

•  Requiring cachers to own a cache.

[+barefootjeff]

3 hours ago, edexter said:

Seems like this might be a very simple  way to encourage cache placement by folks who haven't.

 

If the only reason for someone to hide a cache is to qualify for a challenge (or even get a souvenir), it's not likely to be a very good cache.

[+thebruce0]

Challenge caches have been deemed to be only based on additive statistics attained during regular geocaching activities. That can makes them kind of bland, but makes them more generally accessible, less complex, less confusing, less "gameable", etc.