Hiding a cache on a roof

[+Astrophotos44]

Would it be ok to hide a cache on a rooftop only accessible by ladder or free climb? It would be a challenge and a rarity that geocaching does not see.

[Keystone]

Do you have permission from the owner of the building with the roof?  Does the party granting permission understand what geocachers will need to do in order to access the cache?  Have you stated your permission (and any restrictions) on your cache page?  If so, you may be good to go, provided that your cache meets all of the other Geocache Hiding Guidelines.

[+arisoft]

I have found a cache placed on the top of a large building. I used long ladders to access stairs that goes to the top where the cache is with a view. It definitely was challenging and a rarity. These places gives you the feeling that you are not supposed to be there

 

View from the GZ by night

Edited April 24 by arisoft

[+baer2006]

6 hours ago, arisoft said:

I have found a cache placed on the top of a large building. I used long ladders to access stairs that goes to the top where the cache is with a view. It definitely was challenging and a rarity. These places gives you the feeling that you are not supposed to be there

I also once found a cache just like that. It was about 15 years ago, and I was definitely not supposed to be on the roof .

 

That said, it's hard to imagine to get a rooftop cache published nowadays, unless you actually own the place.

[+kunarion]

20 hours ago, Astrophotos44 said:

Would it be ok to hide a cache on a rooftop only accessible by ladder or free climb? It would be a challenge and a rarity that geocaching does not see.

 

Here's a Blog about climbing caches:  https://www.geocaching.com/blog/2022/08/creative-caches-climbing-caches/

 

They are rare.  But one local to where I live is a 10 foot tall concrete structure (old train track support) on a forest trail.  It likely required about as much permission as the other caches on that trail.

[+Astrophotos44]

This would be one where I do not have permission. But i would have all of the info needed. I think only a couple people would go for it. Just a question.

[+Astrophotos44]

1 hour ago, baer2006 said:

I also once found a cache just like that. It was about 15 years ago, and I was definitely not supposed to be on the roof .

 

That said, it's hard to imagine to get a rooftop cache published nowadays, unless you actually own the place.

What do you mean not supposed to be there?

[+baer2006]

51 minutes ago, Astrophotos44 said:

What do you mean not supposed to be there?

It was a semi-abandoned site, but still private property. Therefore it was technically not legal to enter the place at all, let alone climb on the roof.

Edited April 24 by baer2006

[+Goldenwattle]

They are not rare in Singapore, but I always had a lift to get me there. Also some part way up skyscrapers. It was in a stairwell and I wondered how many floors I had to climb, but I figured it wouldn't be many, as the CO also had to climb them. And it wasn't many. They also like to hide them under buildings in car parks, sometimes multistorey carparks. Singapore is a challenge when you aren't used to the local hides.

 There's a Virtual up there, but a lift too. 57 floors. I timed the descent. 15 seconds. Fast going up too.

 

A physical cache in this roof top garden; of maybe ten stories, surrounded by taller buildings. Good café at ground level. Also found one on a roof top car park. Now, that was a challenge wending my way through corridors in the building. Interesting this. In the middle of a packed city there is a roof top garden with vegetable and flower gardens. There was a lift that opened to the garden. Just had to locate it. Geocaching, I saw Singapore differently to most tourists. Out in the suburbs with the apartment blocks, looking for lifts to take me above, searching empty lots, back streets, searching underground car parks, etc. I travelled all over the city by their great metro, as far as the Malaysian border, where I caught a bus over for the day (must tick off another country 😁), but the metro is being extended to there too, so it should become easier. Time consuming at present to cross the border and multiple buses. Love Singapore.

Edited April 25 by Goldenwattle

[+kunarion]

10 hours ago, Goldenwattle said:

They are not rare in Singapore, but I always had a lift to get me there. Also some part way up skyscrapers. It was in a stairwell and I wondered how many floors I had to climb, but I figured it wouldn't be many, as the CO also had to climb them. And it wasn't many. They also like to hide them under buildings in car parks, sometimes multistorey carparks. Singapore is a challenge when you aren't used to the local hides.

 There's a Virtual up there, but a lift too. 57 floors. I timed the descent. 15 seconds. Fast going up too.

 

A physical cache in this roof top garden; of maybe ten stories, surrounded by taller buildings. Good café at ground level. Also found one on a roof top car park. Now, that was a challenge wending my way through corridors in the building. Interesting this. In the middle of a packed city there is a roof top garden with vegetable and flower gardens. There was a lift that opened to the garden. Just had to locate it. Geocaching, I saw Singapore differently to most tourists. Out in the suburbs with the apartment blocks, looking for lifts to take me above, searching empty lots, back streets, searching underground car parks, etc. I travelled all over the city by their great metro, as far as the Malaysian border, where I caught a bus over for the day (must tick off another country 😁), but the metro is being extended to there too, so it should become easier. Time consuming at present to cross the border and multiple buses. Love Singapore.

 

That would be pretty cool!  I've been at rooftop gardens, but caches wouldn't be there for various reasons.

 

But what you're describing seems to not be what the OP was asking, free climbing or using ladders.  I've found a cache in a parking deck (using an elevator).  But it was not as nice as a rooftop garden.

 

Edited April 25 by kunarion

[+Goldenwattle]

2 hours ago, kunarion said:

But what you're describing seems to not be what the OP was asking, free climbing or using ladders.

Ladders would not be long enough for many buildings. Would need to be only one storey, or maybe two at the most. People don't carry fire ladders for multistorey buildings. I have found several caches on roofs where a ladder is needed. Such as picnic shelter roofs, or bus stop roofs. The cache is very exposed to the elements though. Better under the roof, to keep it out of the direct sun and rain.

[+kunarion]

Just now, Goldenwattle said:

Ladders would not be long enough for many buildings. Would need to be only one storey, or maybe two at the most. People don't carry fire ladders for multistorey buildings. I have found several caches on roofs where a ladder is needed. Such as picnic shelter roofs, or bus stop roofs. The cache is very exposed to the elements though. Better under the roof, to keep it out of the direct sun and rain.

 

The OP truly says ladders.  And I guess free climbing the exterior walls?  Either plan seems like a very unique cache place.  Or, yeah, cachers with fire ladders.

[+Astrophotos44]

Yeah, 1 story. Ways you are a ladder and a thick steel pipe up the wall

[+Astrophotos44]

15 hours ago, baer2006 said:

It was a semi-abandoned site, but still private property. Therefore it was technically not legal to enter the place at all, let alone climb on the roof.

Same here