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Canadians being charged VAT for annual renewal.


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Hi all.

 

Just got my renewal notice - was charged $33.99 for a $29.99 yearly renewal. When I queried the Talking Heads at Groundspeak , I was told that VAT is added to my account....except that I'm Candaian, live in Canada, and have been a Premium member for at least 13 years, without paying taxes at any time.

 

Just curious how many others have had this happen?

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No VAT in the US at least for now. Agh recently moved to a state with sales tax, unfortunately $2.61 increase from the previous year. 

 

My guess is you paid Canadian VAT. Governments are getting pickier and pickier about taxes and they must audit something now so GS is  collecting it.

 

Nothing is certain except death and taxes - Benjamin Franklin 

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No, we have no VAT. The lackey who responded said I paid VAT was because Canada is part of the European Union (it isn't). I suggested he may want to check a map... :)

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When I look at your account, in addition to the $29.99 base charge, I see a $1.50 Canadian country tax and a $2.40 Ontario provincial tax. So, it looks like Canada has started enforcing sales taxes on memberships.

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17 hours ago, jiggs11 said:

The lackey who responded said I paid VAT was because Canada is part of the European Union

:wacko: Un-be-lievable answer from an employee of a company busy with worlwide geolocation issues and residing close to the Canadian border.

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On 11/28/2024 at 12:18 PM, RuideAlmeida said:

 

Maybe you would be surprised to know that French Guyana is part of the EU. ;)

 

But is French Guyana north of the 49th parallel? Asking for a friend.  ;-)

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On 12/16/2024 at 5:57 PM, bflentje said:

 

But is French Guyana north of the 49th parallel? Asking for a friend.  ;-)

 

18 hours ago, Smitherington said:

About 4 degrees north.

 

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I ... think you're looking at the wrong set of coordinates there. French Guyana is just north of the equator; more like about 44 degrees south of N 49°.

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On 11/27/2024 at 2:25 PM, jiggs11 said:

Hi all.

 

Just got my renewal notice - was charged $33.99 for a $29.99 yearly renewal. When I queried the Talking Heads at Groundspeak , I was told that VAT is added to my account....except that I'm Candaian, live in Canada, and have been a Premium member for at least 13 years, without paying taxes at any time.

 

Just curious how many others have had this happen?

 

I'm from Canada and looking at my last bill, I see:

 

Subtotal:USD 29.99

Tax:4.49

Total:USD 34.48

 

QST NR00000922; CA GST/HST Registration: 762924462RT0001

 

I believe Groundspeak is simply collecting sales taxes and looking back at my older bills, it looks like this tax collecting started in 2019.

 

Your bill ($33.99) is cheaper than mine, so you must not be living in the province of Québec.

 

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Yes, Canadians purchasing things from the US have started having to pay Canadian taxes. From what I've seen as someone who sells with a US website, the seller may, may, have the choice to either add the tax to the charge, or reduce the principle to 'hide' the tax, but that really depends on the company that's selling.

 

As a seller in Canada using a US platform (another messy context), there's a form that the US platform may want you to fill out (W8-BEN) for their legal sake, which allows them not to charge tax with purchases charged for you, if it would be required, but states you claim that if it needs to be paid (ie, GST) that you will covering it so they're not accountable for it. It's complicated. Legal stuff sucks. :)

 

But as a US company selling to Canadians, whether there's any way for HQ to continue to sell without charging the tax, I'm not sure. And I believe it is the Canadian gov't that's enforcing this on US companies.

 

IANAL and this is just my understanding; no guarantee I'm 100% correct :P

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