New group and category: Registar kulturnih dobara Republike Hrvatske - Register of Cultural Property of the Republic of Croatia

[Mislav210]

Hello, I'm looking for members for my group. Details: https://Waymarking.com/groups/details.aspx?f=1&guid=573dd5cb-3e93-4774-8f7d-d99b1358589b&gid=6

 

Thank you.

Edited May 3, 2024 by Mislav210

[+Max and 99]

8 hours ago, Mislav210 said:

Hello, I'm looking for members for my group. Details: https://Waymarking.com/groups/details.aspx?f=1&guid=573dd5cb-3e93-4774-8f7d-d99b1358589b&gid=6

 

Thank you.

From the group page:

HR: Cilj ove grupe je označavanje zaštićenih kulturni dobara Hrvatske. Registar kulturnih dobara Republike Hrvatske prikazuje rezultate za nepokretna i nematerijalna kulturna dobra te podatke za javno arhivsko gradivo i javnu knjižničnu građu. EN: The goal of this group is to mark the protected cultural assets of Croatia. The Register of Cultural Property of the Republic of Croatia shows the results for immovable and intangible cultural assets.

 

Can you give me an example of an intangible asset that would be waymarked?

[Mislav210]

8 hours ago, Max and 99 said:

From the group page:

HR: Cilj ove grupe je označavanje zaštićenih kulturni dobara Hrvatske. Registar kulturnih dobara Republike Hrvatske prikazuje rezultate za nepokretna i nematerijalna kulturna dobra te podatke za javno arhivsko gradivo i javnu knjižničnu građu. EN: The goal of this group is to mark the protected cultural assets of Croatia. The Register of Cultural Property of the Republic of Croatia shows the results for immovable and intangible cultural assets.

 

Can you give me an example of an intangible asset that would be waymarked?

 Yes, of course: Hare are a couple of examples: https://registar.kulturnadobra.hr/#/details/Z-3519 and https://registar.kulturnadobra.hr/#/details/Z-4061 or https://registar.kulturnadobra.hr/#/details/Z-2940 .

[+Max and 99]

1 hour ago, Mislav210 said:

 Yes, of course: Hare are a couple of examples: https://registar.kulturnadobra.hr/#/details/Z-3519 and https://registar.kulturnadobra.hr/#/details/Z-4061 or https://registar.kulturnadobra.hr/#/details/Z-2940 .

Those are tangible, the opposite of intangible. That's a difficult word to translate! 

Thank you for explaining. 

[Mislav210]

Hello, here is description and expanded description of category. It's a draft so feel free to comment.

 

Description

[HR]
Registar kulturnih dobara Republike Hrvatske prikazuje rezultate za nepokretna i nematerijalna kulturna dobra te podatke za javno arhivsko gradivo i javnu knjižničnu građu.

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[EN]
The Register of Cultural Property of the Republic of Croatia shows results for immovable and intangible cultural property as well as data for public archival material and public library material.

 

Expanded description

[HR]
U ovu kategoriju treba upisati sljedece spomenike kulture:

- Gradevinski i zemljišni spomenici, povijesni vrtovi, arheološki spomenici
- Povijesne cetvrti, kulturni krajolici
- Zbirke predmeta (konzervatorska podrucja i cjeline)
- (visit link)
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[EN]
Following cultural monuments should be recorded in this category:

- Building and land monuments, historical gardens, archaeological monuments
- Historical districts, cultural landscapes
- Collections of objects (conservation areas and units)
- (visit link)

 

 

 

Instructions for Posting a Registar kulturnih dobara Hrvatske - Register of Cultural Property of Croatia Waymark:

[HR]
1.) Konvencija imenovanja Ime u bazi podataka - grad, država.

2.) Odredite i navedite zemljopisnu širinu i dužinu (u WGS84 datumu) fizicki posjetiti mjesto.

3.) Objavite najmanje dvije ili više novijih fotografija koje ste sami snimili. Imajte na umu da je za povijesne cetvrti potrebna najmanje jedna pregledna fotografija cetvrti i najmanje jedna fotografija gradevine koja se nalazi u njoj. Jedna fotografija zgrade nije prihvatljiva za okrug. Ako na spomeniku postoji ploca, ukljucite i njezinu sliku.

3.) Opis na engleskom je obavezan, a svi ostali jezici su dobrodošli.

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[EN]
1.) Naming convention: Name in the Database - City, Country.

2.) Determine and provide the latitude and longitude (in the WGS84 datum) by physically visiting the site.

3.) Provide at least two or more recent, photographs taken by yourself as much of the place as you can. Note that historic districts require at a minimum one photo overview of the district and a photo of at least one contributing building. A single photo of a building is not acceptable for a district. If there is a plaque on the monumet please include also a picture of it.

3.) English description is required, and all other language are welcome.

Edited May 12, 2024 by Mislav210

[+Bear and Ragged]

Would add: Link to relevant page in the register/s, eg  https://registar.kulturnadobra.hr/#/details/Z-3519

[Mislav210]

37 minutes ago, Bear and Ragged said:

Would add: Link to relevant page in the register/s, eg  https://registar.kulturnadobra.hr/#/details/Z-3519

 

Thank you for advice. It is added as one of variables.

[+FamilieFrohne]

On 5/12/2024 at 10:43 AM, Mislav210 said:

3.) English description is required, and all other language are welcome.

This is giving a lot of freedom for acceptance: from a single short sentence to the quotation of a complete web article. But this freedom makes it also (sometimes) very difficult for an officer to decide if the submitted article is good to fit the category - and removes a lever to deny a bad description. May also lead to fruitless (and sometimes needless) discussion and could give the impression of officer's arbitrariness.

 

Some waymarkers take the necessary time to research and write a good article, while others are content with a few words that barely describe the waymark. In my opinion (and experience) a single sentence does not describe a place or object properly, but I think that if an object is deemed worthy of inclusion in a country official database, it also deserves some research and respect.

 

What I really miss, is the need to credit the source of quoted text - if you copy from a web page, you should better tell, so that nobody can get sued for copyright infringement.

 

 

Erik.

P.S.: Just noticed, that the numbering is somehow incorrect  - you have the 3 two times:

[Mislav210]

1 hour ago, FamilieFrohne said:

This is giving a lot of freedom for acceptance: from a single short sentence to the quotation of a complete web article. But this freedom makes it also (sometimes) very difficult for an officer to decide if the submitted article is good to fit the category - and removes a lever to deny a bad description. May also lead to fruitless (and sometimes needless) discussion and could give the impression of officer's arbitrariness.

 

Some waymarkers take the necessary time to research and write a good article, while others are content with a few words that barely describe the waymark. In my opinion (and experience) a single sentence does not describe a place or object properly, but I think that if an object is deemed worthy of inclusion in a country official database, it also deserves some research and respect.

 

What I really miss, is the need to credit the source of quoted text - if you copy from a web page, you should better tell, so that nobody can get sued for copyright infringement.

 

 

Erik.

P.S.: Just noticed, that the numbering is somehow incorrect  - you have the 3 two times:

Thank you Erik, yes I agree. My intention is to put complete Register to Waymarking. Most of them have a specific insignia and other markings so a photo of them should te enough. Description of each will have proper source attribution, because I was working on Register.

 

Mislav

[+elyob]

It is time to vote.

[+Alfouine]

One more time we need to wait Peer review to have interesting comments.

When you do not have a discussion on the forum, everybody cry and vote Nay because there is no forum discussion and when we have a forum discussion, no one is able to contribute and help to improve the description

It's a pity...

[+Max and 99]

I tried and my peer review comment exactly reflects what I said in the forums.