+Rocky Balboa Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 I had been running low on new places to hide a cache this week so went for a search on the internet. My travels took me to a rather fantastic site If i do say so:- The Modern Antiquarian. By using the map option you can zoom in on any county in the uk and by passing your mouse pointer over various red dots which sybolize locations, see what is at a site. I have found 5 or more places of interest in Buckinghamshire alone which I never knew existed! It also gives you the option to register yourself and add your own favourite sites which go immediatly onto the same map for other people to see! Its quite a good way of advertising geocaching by simply dropping a hint on a page saying that there is hidden treasure for any visitors! Give it a whirl I think some of you might find it extremely interesting! Its just a hunt for a lunch box, why be so serious!?! Dan Wilson - www.Buckscaching.co.uk Quote Link to comment
+The Merman Posted January 21, 2003 Share Posted January 21, 2003 Thanks for the info Dan. I am guessing that you must be NightcacherDan! Looking at how few sites there are round here I would think that they would be all used up as caches pretty quickly. Maybe I should register and give them a few new sites for the website. I woke this morning and my boat was not rocking...for one horrid moment I thought I lived in a house! Quote Link to comment
+Lost in Space Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Dan Wilson:.......... Its quite a good way of advertising geocaching by simply dropping a hint on a page saying that there is hidden treasure for any visitors! Give it a whirl I think some of you might find it extremely interesting! ............ I think you might like to re-visit that comment after you read the reponses to your posts there...... Neil Quote Link to comment
+The Scout Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Doh and double Doh quote: Its quite a good way of advertising geocaching by simply dropping a hint on a page saying that there is hidden treasure for any visitors! Give it a whirl I think some of you might find it extremely interesting! Looking at the response to your posting they don't seem to be the good time guys you describe! Suggest you don't use their forum for advertising Geocaching. Quote Link to comment
el10t Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I am afraid I can see the sites point of view on this, despite the rather rude way they handled D&P's banning. (later edited for clarity - I meant over the displeasure about using the site for advertising, not over the more recent forum postings there describing geocachers as litterers without bothering to look at what we actually do. My sympathy is waning!) Rich mobilis in mobili [This message was edited by el10t on January 22, 2003 at 04:07 AM.] Quote Link to comment
+naffita Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Short tempered lot aren't they? Just over a few adverts. Now, where have I seen that sort of thing before? Quote Link to comment
+naffita Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Just had another look at their forum. Boy, are they upset. Its a job to follow the plot as the posts are not in order but they sure know how to curse, well one particular word anyway. They are already talking about finding and removing caches. Whew, have you ever poked a wasps nest with a stick. Quote Link to comment
+The Scout Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 quote:From "The Modern Antiquarian Forum" Re: GeoCaching Hi Pid! Hi Dan! All your geocaching-centric posts have been removed, and your accounts suspended. If you want to have a cry about it, please email ed@themodernantiquarian.com and we will explain why! Oh dear, by the way Dan and Pid, do you own or have access to a four wheel drive vehicle? Quote Link to comment
+Kouros Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Just had a quick look over there... Urk! Methink they have grasped the wrong end of the stick... unfortunately for us, the other end is sharp, and it's pointing in our direction... EDIT: Actually, this might go to reinforce the notion that all caches should have permission from the land owners that the cache is placed on. If the cache has permission to be there, there's not much of an argument in their favour. ------ An it harm none, do what ye will Quote Link to comment
+Lost in Space Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Originally posted by naffita: ......... Whew, have you ever poked a wasps nest with a stick. QUOTE] No but I know someone who has stuck his hand in a wasp's nest. - Does that count? Quote Link to comment
el10t Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Gosh its really hotting up over there. There are a lot of knee-jerk first reaction viewpoints being expressed. I think it demonstrates how friendly and polite our UK GC community is in comparison. Rich mobilis in mobili Quote Link to comment
+Pharisee Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I suppose we should be grateful that we're Geocachers and not Quarians otherwise they'd really have it in for us John Wild Tupperware Hunter Quote Link to comment
Ben Pid Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Oh my gosh! this is shocking! ************************ Seems noone like Adverts! -------------------------------------------------------- One ring to rule them all, One ring to find them, One ring to bring them all and in the Darkness bind them! www.buckscaching.co.uk INFLAMMATORY POST EDITED ! Tim & June [This message was edited by Tim & June on January 22, 2003 at 05:57 AM.] Quote Link to comment
+Kouros Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 What is their obsession with buckets? ------ An it harm none, do what ye will Quote Link to comment
el10t Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I assume its because someone early on in the "discussion" over there quoted a bit from the Geocaching info page that says something like a cache can be a bucket etc. They then immediatley think of a bucket like we might use in the garden or for building, not realising that it might be one with a lid on, could be quite small, and is just another type of container. Once this conclusion has been reached that is it - immoveable viewpoint. Nobody from the site seems interested in researching UK geocaches or finding out anything more about our hobby. I've seen one cache in what might be described as a bucket in the UK and it was well hidden, out of sight and had a lid on. Rich mobilis in mobili Quote Link to comment
+Teasel Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Oh dear, the rattles are flying out of their prams, aren't they?! I think this sort of mentality is far more likely to result in caches being trashed than the "bored teenagers" who are usually painted as the villains. That's assuming they've got access to the required "marine safety equipment" Quote Link to comment
Ben Pid Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Who is Kaipath? is he a cacher in the UK? he is certainly doing well. I think that they are all naturists, the sort that hide up trees to stop road construction, not the ones that walk around in the nuddy. I am kind of worried now though, I dont want to be the start of a cache trashing epidemic this isnt good for that respect! If they do however they arent what they say,... they seem to thik they are the adults and we are the children! the other way round surely! -------------------------------------------------------- One ring to rule them all, One ring to find them, One ring to bring them all and in the Darkness bind them! www.buckscaching.co.uk [This message was edited by TreeBeard (Pid) on January 22, 2003 at 06:04 AM.] Quote Link to comment
+Pharisee Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 but I have strong feeling that we're going to loose a few caches in the very near future. I've just spent the last half hour or so reading their forum postings and boy, are one or two of them upset. They are raging. It wouldn't surprise me one little bit if they download a whole heap of cache pages and systematically trash the lot... if they can find them John Wild Tupperware Hunter Quote Link to comment
el10t Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I have to agree with Pharisee. One of Walker Dan's seems to have been singled out in a message. Members-only caches, anyone? Rich mobilis in mobili Quote Link to comment
+dylanhayes Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 So, having quite sucessfully stirred up a hornet's nest of negative feeling in the Modern Antiquitarian forum hadn't we all better learn to look before we leap? Posting blatent self promotion of one's own caches here is annoying, but unlikely to damage geocaching, but to do so on somebody elses forum is stupid, however well meaning. Strong words yes, but just look at the responses. If somebody decided to promote some totally unrelated activity in 'our' forums, and did so in a way which was off topic to the subject of the site we'd probably react pretty strongly. Hopefully a little more politely, but I'm sure some of us would be thinking in a similar way to how these people seem to be. Although they may have got some details wrong about what geocaching is, some people have clearly decided they are against the idea of geocaching, and many others reading it, will see only negative comments, and form a negative opinion. This is not a good idea. All it takes is a few of these aggrevated people to complain to English Heritage or the National Trust and hey presto caching becomes banned in many places, plus we get some new dedicated enemies who might decide to trash caches they feel they are spoiling these ancient monuments. Remember some of the people on that forum hold ancient monuments to be sacred, and would find the idea of hiding things in these locations deeply offensive. Telling them how you plan to hide loads more caches in these locations and inviting everyone else you know to do the same is probably going to provoke a angry response. Sorry if have offended anybody, but this does make me pretty annoyed. All the lenghtly efforts by many dedicated people at getting good publicity for caching can be undermined by just a few careless actions by just a few people. And all for what, a few more hits to a website? [This message was edited by dylanhayes on January 22, 2003 at 06:15 AM.] Quote Link to comment
Ben Pid Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I wasnt aware it actually was an online community though,I was under the assumption it was just a random site. Had no idea what sort of an uproar it would cause! Just got a link off of Dan signed up and here we are! -------------------------------------------------------- One ring to rule them all, One ring to find them, One ring to bring them all and in the Darkness bind them! www.buckscaching.co.uk Quote Link to comment
+Team Minim Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 There appears to be some sort of calm descending in the other forum, can we agree to refrain from further posts. Dylan is right there would be a considerable uproar if this forum were spammed (or perceived as such). This really is a bit of a cross roads for caching, recent publicity etc, we must be careful not to annoy people who, afterall have a common interest in "interesting places". In the words of Harry Enfield's Scouser "Keep Calm" Shares in Tupperware? Be a Geocacher! Quote Link to comment
+Tim & June Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 DAN & PID, You really need to slow down a little, tread gently and leave no footprints so to speak. For those interested, I have posted a new thread on the forum in question in the capacity of admin. I hope this will calm things down. I have also sent an email to the site owner (I think) so that hopefully we will see an end to the hostility. Tim & June (Winchester) See June, I told you that sign which said 'Unsuitable for Motor Vehicles' was wrong ! Quote Link to comment
+John Stead Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I agree with all Dylan has written - whatever other people's property seems to be (including websites) we should look before we leap. Quote Link to comment
+The Wombles Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I've come to this "inter-site crisis" (we don't have wars these days) rather late and well done to the few who have been very busy pouring oil on troubled Antiquarians all day. Although many of the postings have been rather heated, they are settling down now and a new thread has a very sensible suggestion "Seems to me that the uneasy truce that will form is if a cache is visible to a TMA poster, they'll remove it, if its not they won't...". If a cache is causing concern then we should remove it anyway, so this sounds like a sensible way forward. We definitely need caution when approaching communities such as these folks - many of them have very clear ideas about the sanctity of the countryside and a little understanding on our part will go a long way to sharing our heritage. Dave Quote Link to comment
Ben Pid Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I agree with the Wombles, we should approach other communities with concern as they all deserve respect. I think I can taker this as a learning curve in the respect that I won't be blabbing about caching to different types of community again. One thing I will add though....I wish there Moderators were as good as ours! -------------------------------------------------------- One ring to rule them all, One ring to find them, One ring to bring them all and in the Darkness bind them! www.buckscaching.co.uk Quote Link to comment
+Teasel Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 ... have you seen their interactive cache^h^h^h^h^h monument map?! Wow!!! Time to do some serious crawling, fawning and begging to their sysadmin methinks... Quote Link to comment
+MarcB Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 [MarcB reads the posts from the last 24 hours] Woah! I'm speechless! MarcB "We searched for hours in the cache area but all we could find was an ammo box in a little hollow. Suggest you archive the cache..." Quote Link to comment
+jeremyp Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Don't check the forums for a mere 24 hours and the world has turned on its head. If ever there was an argument for good moderators.... ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.jeremyp.net/geocaching Quote Link to comment
+The Northumbrian Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 quote:Originally posted by el10t:I have to agree with Pharisee. One of Walker Dan's seems to have been singled out in a message. Members-only caches, anyone? Rich _mobilis in mobili_ This seems to be the root of my hate mail as I did find both of the caches mentioned Quote Link to comment
+jeremyp Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 quote:Originally posted by The Northumbrian: This seems to be the root of my hate mail as I did find both of the caches mentioned Did you write in your log "toppled over a few funny looking upright stones while I was there"? If I'd had the mail I might have replied with an informative e-mail about what geocaching is about and enquired why he felt personal abuse was an appropriate reaction. The more juvenile response would be to sign him up to receive spam from lots of commercial web sites ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.jeremyp.net/geocaching Quote Link to comment
+Naefearjustbeer Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 I have just spent about an hour reading through the forum! What a lot of fuss over a tupperware box that they did not know even existed until yesterday. All I can say is I hope that nobody has inadvertantly placed a cache in on or under a sacred site to give them the Proof that they are looking for. Hear about the 2 blondes that walked into a bar? You would of thought at least one of them would of seen it!! Quote Link to comment
+The Scout Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 quote:From: Neafearjustbear .... All I can say is I hope that nobody has inadvertantly placed a cache in on or under a sacred site to give them the Proof that they are looking for. I think its best I own up and say sorry Quote Link to comment
Ben Pid Posted January 22, 2003 Share Posted January 22, 2003 Oh my gosh! Scoiut please tell me you are joking,,,,this is all we need! LoL. I have read the postings to and it seems a couple of them are adiment on finding the caches and trashing them. A couple of them understand and several others have been reading our posts and stating that we are worried etc. Talk about a community clash. Crikey Dave Munroe, whoever that is, certainly has a fair bit to answer for aswell! Pid -------------------------------------------------------- One ring to rule them all, One ring to find them, One ring to bring them all and in the Darkness bind them! www.buckscaching.co.uk Quote Link to comment
+The Wombles Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 quote:Originally posted by The Scout: quote:From: Neafearjustbear .... All I can say is I hope that nobody has inadvertantly placed a cache in on or under a sacred site to give them the Proof that they are looking for. I think its best I own up and say sorry The Scout needs to confirm this, but I believe is joking and is referring to his cache which jokes about being in a stone circle, but is most definitely NOT (we've done it). Sorry if this spoils the illusion around this particular cache but considering the heat of previous discussion I felt it best to post an early clarification. Dave Quote Link to comment
Seifer Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 "Don't bother reading the forums today, i'll check them when i get home from school tomorrow!" BIG MISTAKE ON MY PART! All i can say is wow I'm not going to give my opinion, i'll only end up offending someone LoL Michael aka 1/2 of Team Blitz It's not a matter of win or lose...until you lose Quote Link to comment
+jeremyp Posted January 23, 2003 Share Posted January 23, 2003 quote:I'm not going to give my opinion, i'll only end up offending someone LoL I'm really offended that you feel the need to stay on the fence ------- jeremyp The second ten million caches were the worst too. http://www.jeremyp.net/geocaching Quote Link to comment
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