Ireland country souvenir

[+purple_team]

Hi !

Regarding irish souvenir : a souvenir exist per each irish region but not for Ireland (as a country)

Is there an explanation or is it an oversight ?

Best regards

purple_team

[Keystone]

Please see this Help Center article.

[+MNTA]

Not that I have a find in either country, this explanation I find laughable. But hey what do i know. 

[+pli]

On 1/27/2023 at 1:30 PM, Keystone said:

Please see this Help Center article.

It dosnt explain why there isnt a souvenir. You can have a souvenir for UK but not for Ireland. Both are members of UN and was members of EU, Uk not anymore, so does anyone know an explanation? Ireland IS in the list of countries we have cached in, so someway its recognized ??

Edited February 9 by pli

[Keystone]

What exactly was unclear about the Help Center article? What exactly makes the explanation "laughable?"    The article accurately summarizes decisions made by the named stakeholders more than twenty years ago.  That said, the Help Center is updated regularly to make clarifying wording changes.

[+pli]

14 minutes ago, Keystone said:

Your question is answered in this Help Center article.  The convention on place names in Ireland, based on geography rather than politics, carries over into souvenirs (which are awarded based on the five geographic regions listed here.

 

So Ireland is recognized when counting Countries, but not souvenirs, doesnt make sense.. (Im danish, and as such not influenced by any conflict whatsoever)

[+pli]

1 hour ago, Keystone said:

What exactly was unclear about the Help Center article? What exactly makes the explanation "laughable?"    The article accurately summarizes decisions made by the named stakeholders more than twenty years ago.  That said, the Help Center is updated regularly to make clarifying wording changes.

The help article just explains a decision that I don't agree upon, and which is in discrepancy with the way countries are counted for as shown above. I can't explain why MNTA thinks its laughable, unapropriate in this context.

[+Goldenwattle]

31 minutes ago, pli said:

The help article just explains a decision that I don't agree upon, and which is in discrepancy with the way countries are counted for as shown above. I can't explain why MNTA thinks its laughable, unapropriate in this context.

Doesn't make sense to me either. Either the country Ireland needs to have a souvenir, or the Island as a whole. Either would be okay.

[Keystone]

3 hours ago, pli said:

The help article just explains a decision that I don't agree upon

 

The stakeholders in Ireland and the United Kingdom arrived at the decision.  I doubt that Geocaching HQ would overturn that decision based on souvenir desires of foreign visitors.  Thanks, though, for confirming that it's just the decision with which you disagree, and not the wording of the explanation.

 

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and which is in discrepancy with the way countries are counted for as shown above.

 

You screenshotted the profile page map module, which is provided by Google.  As has been discussed in several other threads, there are discrepancies between Google's module and the method used by Geocaching HQ to define countries.  Ireland is one example of this.

[Hynz]

11 hours ago, Keystone said:

What exactly was unclear about the Help Center article?

IMHO the Help Center article explaines only why 20 years ago (long before any souvenirs where on the table) the locals decided to classify all caches on the irish island as beeing "Ireland" even those located in the region of Ulster which politicaly is part of the UK.

Maybe the article could be expanded that (I guess) because of that decision Ireland only got regional souvenirs (including Ulster) wherase UK only got a single country souvenir and no regional souvenirs.

Edited February 10 by Hynz