+Decodoppler Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 I just logged a find on a cache that 1/ seems to be on private land and 2/ that land is really seedy with homeless folks camped very near the cache site. I have logged my find and comments -- so the cacher will read my concerns -- what is the general concencus concerning this issue... when should a cache be archived? Etc., etc.? Quote Link to comment
+Shawn&Holly Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 I was looking at the cache you mentioned and while I was looking, the cache was removed at about 5:20PM. Quote Link to comment
+Olar Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Decodoppler:I just logged a find on a cache that 1/ seems to be on private land and 2/ that land is really seedy with homeless folks camped very near the cache site. I have logged my find and comments -- so the cacher will read my concerns -- what is the general concencus concerning this issue... when should a cache be archived? Etc., etc.? First of all any caching on private property is a definite NO-NO unless the owner has given permission. In the geocaching community this is not a debatable subject. Secondly placing it in a seedy area near a homeless persons camp is putting cache hunters in an uncomfortable position not to mention safety concerns. I would think an email to the cache owner letting them know your feelings is appropriate to start. If no positive reaction is conveyed back to you then it can be persued through the geocaching authorities. I see you personally have 60+ finds so you are certainly speaking from an experienced cachers viewpoint. Cheers, Olar Quote Link to comment
emanuel Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 I agree about the private property part. I don't agree that having a cache near a place where the homeless camp is a no-no at all. Maybe a notice on the cache page for those who are uncomfortable around the homeless or feel unsafe would be warranted. I can't see why a cache should be archived for this reason, I for one don't mind their company. Depends on what kind of homeless I guess. I'd feel less comfortable if they were heroine or crack addicts than if they're gypsies. Quote Link to comment
+Decodoppler Posted September 17, 2002 Author Share Posted September 17, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Olar:First of all any caching on private property is a definite NO-NO unless the owner has given permission. In the geocaching community this is not a debatable subject. Secondly placing it in a seedy area near a homeless persons camp is putting cache hunters in an uncomfortable position not to mention safety concerns. I would think an email to the cache owner letting them know your feelings is appropriate to start. If no positive reaction is conveyed back to you then it can be persued through the geocaching authorities. I see you personally have 60+ finds so you are certainly speaking from an experienced cachers viewpoint. Cheers, Olar http://www.plauder-smilies.com/wavey.gif Thanks for all the comments... The cache owner has indeed taken the cache down and is checking the private property issue... Well, time to get back to work... Tomorrow brings another opportunity to find a cache!@ Take care Quote Link to comment
+DirtRunner Posted September 18, 2002 Share Posted September 18, 2002 Hey, I know these clowns who placed this cache, they're the same ones who placed the "Battle in a Bottle" cache last month in the Chinese Rail Workers Memorial off the SkyDome. The cache was actually in the monument and you had to climb into it 8' off the ground to get to it. Actually wrote the placers and they felt that climbing into it was ok since two of their numbers were Chinese (duh!), I took it up with Geocaching.com and it was archived. Take the caches from this group with a grain of salt. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him think. DirtRunner. Quote Link to comment
+Decodoppler Posted September 19, 2002 Author Share Posted September 19, 2002 quote:Originally posted by DirtRunner:Hey, I know these clowns who placed this cache, they're the same ones who placed the "Battle in a Bottle" cache last month in the Chinese Rail Workers Memorial off the SkyDome. The cache was actually in the monument and you had to climb into it 8' off the ground to get to it. Actually wrote the placers and they felt that climbing into it was ok since two of their numbers were Chinese (duh!), I took it up with Geocaching.com and it was archived. Take the caches from this group with a grain of salt. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him think. DirtRunner. Hey Dirtrunner: thanks... I had figured that out after finding this one. Where are you "operating" in Toronto? Quote Link to comment
+Couparangus Posted September 19, 2002 Share Posted September 19, 2002 Maybe one of the reasons I shy away from urban caches is due to one particular one in downtown Toronto that is in a filthy location littered with used syringes and prophylactics!! Some thought has to go into a stash location to make it a true success! Cheers! Coupar-Angus Quote Link to comment
Cache Canucks Posted September 20, 2002 Share Posted September 20, 2002 I suppose it's also possible that, at the time the cache was originally placed, there weren't any homeless folks 'camped' in the area (although that still wouldn't account for the private property issue). I know that, here in Toronto at least, there aren't too many forested city parks that haven't been host to transient's camp sites at one time or another; unfortunately, the farther off the beaten track you venture, the greater your chances of running across them (which, if you're GeoCaching, will often have you inadvertently vying for the same inner-city clump of quiet trees). "Don't die with your music still inside you..." Quote Link to comment
gm100guy Posted September 20, 2002 Share Posted September 20, 2002 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=36664 looks private to me...... gm100guy http://members.rogers.com/gm100guy/cachepage.htm Quote Link to comment
gm100guy Posted September 20, 2002 Share Posted September 20, 2002 http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=36664 looks private to me...... gm100guy http://members.rogers.com/gm100guy/cachepage.htm Quote Link to comment
gm100guy Posted September 22, 2002 Share Posted September 22, 2002 If you look at the map on the cache page you can see it is on the golf course. When they approve a cache do they look at there own maps? gm100guy http://members.rogers.com/gm100guy/cachepage.htm Quote Link to comment
Rigour Posted September 24, 2002 Share Posted September 24, 2002 Placing a cache near homeless people is asking for the cache to be looted. Quote Link to comment
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