+tirediron Posted April 27, 2003 Share Posted April 27, 2003 Just wondering if anyone out there can tell me if purchasing a copy of S&T is worthwhile for us Canadians? I imagine that the detail level for places like Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver is ok, but what about the smaller centers? Does anyone have a copy of it that they could send me a couple of screen-shots of so that I can see for myself? Quote Link to comment
+Gadget Freak Posted April 27, 2003 Share Posted April 27, 2003 The street detail for small towns is quite good actually. I have a sales related job and drive all over Ontario. The maps aren't perfect, but have been useful and compared to continually buying paper maps, economical. For real time GPS use, it has an irritating delay of 15 seconds, but that can be overcome by third party patch. Quote Link to comment
+Olar Posted April 27, 2003 Share Posted April 27, 2003 Yes it is excellent not only for street level mapping in most centres but also a great tool for organizing geocaches imported to S&T as pushpins which will also link to the individual cache listing page. Here are three different screen shots (not sure where you are from so I chose Nova Scotia as the example along with Halifax and Herring Cove near your only cache find). The red squares are cache locations. You can display captions for each cache which contain the link to the cache page. Nova Scotia Halifax Herring Cove Hope this helps you make a decision. My advise is buy it! You won't be disappointed. Cheers, Olar "You are only young once but you can stay immature forever" Quote Link to comment
+tirediron Posted April 27, 2003 Author Share Posted April 27, 2003 Thanks very much, especially apreciate the screen-shots. Looks like it might just be worth the $$$$! Quote Link to comment
+Cache Test Dummy Posted April 27, 2003 Share Posted April 27, 2003 I second Olar's $0.02. S&T 2002 is my most often used application for geocache mapping. I would recommend it without hesitation. I have, however, heard/seen a number of issues with 2003 which make it sound like a downgrade. Something you might want to consider when making a purchase decision. Cheers. illegitimus nil carborundum Quote Link to comment
+tirediron Posted April 27, 2003 Author Share Posted April 27, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Cache Test Dummy:...I have, however, heard/seen a number of issues with 2003 which make it sound like a downgrade. Yeah, I have heard that too, but cannot find anything concrete. Would like to learn more about that... Thanks Quote Link to comment
+Binrat Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 Olar hooked me onto S & T a while back and have not looked backwards since. I use it for planning cache raids and other adventures. I do find the download process a little tedious but it is well worth the effort. I regularly download ALL the newest caches in my area and use the push pins to mark..NEW, FOUND, LOCATIONLESS...etc. But you nead GeoBuddy, its free. The order of download is..... EasyGPS>>>>>GeoBuddy>>>>>>Streets & Trips. Binrat P.S. Costco carries it very cheap and comes with a $15 rebate. "Blood is thicker than water.......Unless the water is frozen!" Quote Link to comment
+PDOP's Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Binrat:P.S. Costco carries it very cheap and comes with a $15 rebate. How much is it at Costco? PDOP's GPS Pages Quote Link to comment
+Binrat Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 If I recall, it was only around $55. If you send the required info to Costco they will handle all the paperwork and send you a cheque in a couple of weeks. Best money I ever spent. Binrat "Blood is thicker than water.......Unless the water is frozen!" Quote Link to comment
gm100guy Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 S&T is well worth the money for all the mapping you need to do. gm100guy http://members.rogers.com/gm100guy/cachepage.htm Ontario geocachers http://groups.msn.com/GeocachinginOntario/homepage Quote Link to comment
+PDOP's Posted April 30, 2003 Share Posted April 30, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Binrat:If I recall, it was only around $55. If you send the required info to Costco they will handle all the paperwork and send you a cheque in a couple of weeks. Best money I ever spent. There's a thread about purchasing Steets and Trips in the US for under $10USD after rebates. If only crossborder shopping wasn't such a pain Or is it a separate version for Canada? PDOP's GPS Pages Quote Link to comment
+PDOP's Posted May 4, 2003 Share Posted May 4, 2003 RadioShack has the 2002 version for $49.99. Can anybody tell me if the rebate form is in the box, how much it is and whneit expires? PDOP's GPS Pages Quote Link to comment
+Binrat Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 You can get more info here: http://www.microsoft.com/insider/rebates/detail.asp?ProductRebateID=294 As for a coupon I would just print up something that shows all the pertinent data like WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHY or just try calling Microsoft here in Canada. Binrat "Blood is thicker than water.......Unless the water is frozen!" Quote Link to comment
+Shawn&Holly Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 Is there a Mac version or is it only for Windows??? I do know it is MS but my MS mouse was supplied with Mac software so I thought I would ask. Car37 & Shnde Quote Link to comment
+Cache Test Dummy Posted May 6, 2003 Share Posted May 6, 2003 Sorry Car 37 & Shnde, Windows only. It is usable under Virtual PC for it's mapping ability (personally on a 366 mHz G3). Slow, but usable. I have not tried it with Virtual PC interfaced to my GPS, I think it would be pushing it unless you had a pretty quick machine. Nice to see another Mac out there illegitimus nil carborundum Quote Link to comment
+PDOP's Posted May 11, 2003 Share Posted May 11, 2003 quote:Originally posted by PDOP's:RadioShack has the http://www.radioshack.ca/estore/SearchResults.aspx?language=en-CA&keywords=Streets+and+Trips&pagenum=0&category=Educational+Software&catalog=RadioShack for $49.99. It's now marked down to $39.99 PDOP's GPS Pages Quote Link to comment
+yorelken Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 Hi, Folks I just installed the Streets and Maps. Good maps but the Latitude and Logitude are off. I key in the coordinates from the Geocaching site and it places me off by quite a ways on the Streets and Trips map. What am I doing wrong? Thanks Quote Link to comment
+yorelken Posted May 12, 2003 Share Posted May 12, 2003 Me again. I think I got it figured. I reformatted my GPS. I shall blunder on. Quote Link to comment
+PDOP's Posted May 21, 2003 Share Posted May 21, 2003 Just picked up a new copy of S&T 2003 for $35 on EBay Hope I can get in on the $15 rebate too. Gonna have some fun exploring it's capabilities. Now if only I had a lap top .... PDOP's GPS Pages Quote Link to comment
+StAlbert4 Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 PDOP's, Once you have your 2003 S&T, it will be interesting to get some feedback from you. I use the 2002 version for geocaching & other things. I have hesitated in upgrading based upon comments made about it being a step backwards for detail - it's bad enough as it is - wrong highway numbers in the Edmonton area. "Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again." (Franklin P. Jones) Quote Link to comment
+PDOP's Posted May 22, 2003 Share Posted May 22, 2003 TSA4 I had heard the same. It's discussed briefly in this thread but only as hear say. I'd be glad to send you some screen shots of areas you're interested in when I have it installed. I'll be away from home for a week so it'll have to wait until June. PDOP's GPS Pages Quote Link to comment
+StAlbert4 Posted May 23, 2003 Share Posted May 23, 2003 Screenshots would be great! Maybe 2 or 3 would be all that I would need: - Northwest corner of St Albert - Northwest Edmonton (far enough out to see hwy 16 and 16a) - Downtown Edmonton Area I'll send you my email address via the profile page. Have a good trip, StAlbert4 "Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again." (Franklin P. Jones) Quote Link to comment
+tirediron Posted June 4, 2003 Author Share Posted June 4, 2003 Well... I took the plunge, dropped the $70 at FutureShop and got a copy of S&T 2003. So far, it's been great. I haven't found any errors in the mapping, except for a few minor streets, which are wrong on local maps too (Victoria). So far, worth the money, and recommended! Quote Link to comment
+PDOP's Posted June 4, 2003 Share Posted June 4, 2003 Tirediron Some links for you GPS patch which will decrease the position update from 15 seconds to 1 for real time navigation. GPSBabel to convert the waypoint files from geocaching.com via EasyGPS to a format that can be imported into Streets and Trips. So far I like Streets and Trips 2003 too. I sent some screen shots to the St Albert 4 so he could compare them to the 2002 edition. It will be interesting to hear his comments PDOP's GPS Pages Quote Link to comment
+tirediron Posted June 5, 2003 Author Share Posted June 5, 2003 Cool!! Thanks, these look great! Quote Link to comment
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