walzuhair Posted November 26, 2002 Posted November 26, 2002 What’s becoming a challenge, other than bagging a cache, is to find a cache with easy terrain reachable by sedans. That’s why I wonder, what type of car do you drive? Quote
umc Posted November 26, 2002 Posted November 26, 2002 Do Dodge Dakotas count? I know I'm not there but I have a Dodge Dakots 2WD pickup. Its ok for around here but thats it. My next vehicle will be a full size 4WD truck. ______________________________________________________________________________________ Not so sure, Somewhat new Owner Of a Garmin GPS V Received on 10-03-02 Quote
walzuhair Posted November 27, 2002 Author Posted November 27, 2002 quote: Dodge Dakots 2WD pickup That would be answer#3 umc Quote
swdecato Posted December 27, 2002 Posted December 27, 2002 I drive a white Ford Expedition 4WD. Great on rocks, a little soft in the sand and a bit top heavy. steve Quote
walzuhair Posted December 27, 2002 Author Posted December 27, 2002 If I was to bag any more caches, I'll need to get me some wheels. I tried encouraging some of the people I know with 4WD vehicles into teaming up and GeoCaching, but I guess it’s an acquired taste.. Hehe.. Oh well... waleedsgallery.biz Quote
swdecato Posted December 27, 2002 Posted December 27, 2002 My wife and I go out just about every weekend. If you ever want to go 4 wheeling with us, we go on some pretty wild rides! Quote
walzuhair Posted December 27, 2002 Author Posted December 27, 2002 That's very kind of you and your wife Steve... waleedsgallery.biz Quote
+Desert Warrior Posted December 28, 2002 Posted December 28, 2002 Hey Walz, Of the caches you haven’t recorded as being bagged: Hidden Valley and Martin’s Fall were specifically set to allow access to 2WD. Hair of the Dammed and Hangover are on good tracks easily traversable by 2WD. I have seen 2WDs at Zenda Road and End of the World. If you don’t mind wading a pongy river “Sea of Birds” is available. and so on. Quote
walzuhair Posted December 28, 2002 Author Posted December 28, 2002 I didn’t realize that.. Thanks. I’ll try to check them out this weekend.. I assumed that only terrain 1 is accessible to 2WD sedans. waleedsgallery.biz Quote
swdecato Posted December 28, 2002 Posted December 28, 2002 I captured "Hidden Valley" last weekend. Easy 2WD adventure. Paved to the doorstep. steve Quote
walzuhair Posted December 29, 2002 Author Posted December 29, 2002 That's 37.8mi SW (60.9km) from where I live. I might start with it since it has a paved road. I was a bit discouraged with "Hangover" since it requires a fit person and I'm a bit overweight and more prone to slipping to my 300ft. doom waleedsgallery.biz Quote
swdecato Posted December 29, 2002 Posted December 29, 2002 2WD will be no problem at "Hidden Valley". However, you may "huff and puff" climbing the hill to the cache hiding place. I'm in good shape, and find some of these scrambles challenging. Do you go alone? Seems a shame you don't have somebody you can share the hobby with. I'm frustrated by the fact that most people are more content staying at home in front of the television with such wonderful natural beauty waiting for them in the Wadis and Escarpments. steve Quote
+Desert Warrior Posted December 29, 2002 Posted December 29, 2002 Wounded Knee is a whoosh splat. Hangover is not difficult but the consequence of an accident are more of a bump, bump, woof, errr, splat! Quote
walzuhair Posted December 29, 2002 Author Posted December 29, 2002 I was able to peel my son away from the PlayStation2 to go find the first cache and that was it, I couldn’t get him to go with me to hide the first cache in Kuwait... We try to encourage family activities in general, but GeoCaching is not a favorite flavor on the menu. When I have time, I keep myself busy with photography.. If all fails, I go GeoCaching.. Sad, but true.. And thanks for the heads up Desert Warrior, we don't want any of those sound effects, hehe.. Although for my weight it's more of a plukhhhh rather than a splat.. waleedsgallery.biz Quote
swdecato Posted December 29, 2002 Posted December 29, 2002 I enjoy digital photography. Geocaching gives me the opportunity to combine two wonderful sports. My next photographic challenge is to capture Riyadh at night. I hope to walk around town with a camera and tripod without getting arrested. Quote
+Desert Warrior Posted December 29, 2002 Posted December 29, 2002 quote: "huff and puff" I am not a fan of too many over challenging caches because we need to encourage more people to partcipate. I believe the two major turn-offs are a cache not found or an approach that is too diffcult (and this includes for 2WD owners). However the current award holders are: Despite being bagged by the Red Admiral family I believe the "huff and puff" award is currently held by "Alter of Arleah". If you can differentiate between "Whoosh Splat" awards then the most spectacular must be "Wounded Knee". The current "Urmmm Urmmm Pop Pop Phiss" award for the most difficult drive (excluding the Empty Quarter, i.e. for a day-out bag) is held by "Stewed Rabbit" and it can be done without bottoming out. “Forlorn Outpost” probably holds the “Oh my Gosh Stop” award for a passenger wobbling approach. (This award is for the cache that looks more spectacular than it is) The "Splash Splash" award currently goes to the Sea of Birds. Quote
walzuhair Posted December 30, 2002 Author Posted December 30, 2002 I almost got arrested once; the police car stopped as if it spotted murder or rape taking place. The officer asked me what I was doing and then asked for the camera, I refused to hand him the camera, we then argued for 10 minutes and he drove off after warning me not to “do it” again. Taking some shots from the top of Alfaisaleyya tower could be interesting.. You can bag that virtual cache while you’re at it waleedsgallery.biz Quote
+The Time Lord Posted January 17, 2003 Posted January 17, 2003 A landrover 110 is the only 4WD in the world worth having. It might not be very cool in summer as the AC tends not to work but: It us capable of crossing the worst terrain in the world carrying over 1.5 tons of fuel and water and is still able of pulling Hummers and jeeps out. Ahhh the Brits strike again. LOL Quote
swdecato Posted January 18, 2003 Posted January 18, 2003 Having followed you guys around a couple days, I'd have to agree they beat our mammoth American land yachts -- especially when it comes to sand. Your trucks seem to scoot right over the top while my truck just plows sluggishly along. Quote
Dick Turpin Posted February 5, 2003 Posted February 5, 2003 Hey Walz nice to see you are still around. I suspect les US have hunkered down and your silence seemed to coincide?! Quote
walzuhair Posted February 6, 2003 Author Posted February 6, 2003 quote:Hey Walz nice to see you are still around. I suspect les US have hunkered down and your silence seemed to coincide?! I'm around.. Just not very active, thanks for noticing.. I picked up a new Garmin eTrex Vista and I like it a lot.. 24MB and loaded with an accurate Saudi Arabian base map of the main roads. waleedsgallery.biz Quote
Dick Turpin Posted February 6, 2003 Posted February 6, 2003 Mmmm. Steve is not a convert to the detailed map. He was unable to lock the track to the road and consequently he was always located a little bit off and taking turns too early. I just wonder whether they use a different map datum in Saudi and that is the cause of the problem. I would have bought one but the company won't sell the CD to prevent illegal copying. The problem with that is you can't reload the data, without paying again, after you have used the GPS in another area which I sometimes do. Quote
walzuhair Posted February 7, 2003 Author Posted February 7, 2003 I didn't buy the detailed map for the same reloading reason, plus, it did not support auto-routing. They loaded up the main roads of Saudi Arabia only, since it was a new GPS, and they said I'll have to pay 100 Riyals if I wanted to load it again. The other shock was the price drop of MapSource, I paid 500 Riyals for it and it's now 50 only. waleedsgallery.biz Quote
MedTech Posted February 10, 2003 Posted February 10, 2003 Land Rover Discovery, period. Fun to drive, even more fun to maintain! I am new to this great site. I moved up from a Garmin 12MAP to a MAP76s. The mapsource maps are lacking for Riyadh but at the GPS gets me home. Walzuhair, according to your long/lat it seems we are almost neighbours, I live just 700meters south of you, small world. Geocaching is something new to me and I enjoy reading the clues, very clever. Keep up the good work. Quote
+Desert Warrior Posted February 15, 2003 Posted February 15, 2003 Welcome to the fun Medtech. Most caches were set with a Discovery in the team and so all caches are available to you. The Discovery will get you to places where other 4WD give up. Conversely they pack-up where 2WD just keep on rolling. Quote
AbuZaina Posted July 29, 2003 Posted July 29, 2003 WWII 1941 Willys MB w/ a V8 Chevy engine conversion , so far so good Quote
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