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Never leave without your 10 Essentials!

Hmmm, lets see...10 essential items...

 

1) GPSr

2) PDA with updated PQ's

3) Trade items and travel bugs

4) Spare batteries for the GPSr

5) Kneepads for nasty D-JM/PW drainage pipe caches

6) Headlamp for same...

7) "Dan-Oh" hat (with updated software) for enhanced geosensing

8) Camera for cache-critter shots and Harmon fodder

9) Cache probe (preferably one with a rubber foot on one end and camera mount on the other.)

10) Cellphone programmed with lifeline numbers (Preferably one with wireless Internet in case the PDA gets lost or broken and/or in case in-field googling is needed.)

 

That seems like a pretty good list to me! :cute::D

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The Bikedog coins have arrived!

 

The look fantastic!

 

Thanks to PW for the idea, and CachingWidow for doing the artwork!

 

We will be packing orders after the event this Sunday. Anyone attending the event may purchase coins there. As you may or may not know, all proceeds for this coin go to a trust fund for Jerry's daughter.

 

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Editing to add this info: The coin on the left was a gift from the manufacturer. They made 5 extra coins with Jerry's name instead of a tracking number. The middle coin is an antique silver finish, and there were only 10 made. The copper one is the one that is for sale.

 

Those are awesome! I can't wait to get some. :cute:

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Hey, Action Barbie just made the front page on gc.com! The picture is from K-Nic's "Steep" cache.

 

Now how come I have never run in to THEM on the trails?!? :laughing:

 

Way to go!

 

(I still haven't figured out how to capture the page, so someone else will have to help me out here.)

 

I use a program called ScreenHunter 4.0. It's free and it is very easy to use! :lol:

I setup the program so that anytime I hit F6 it pops up a "+" so I can quickly left mouse click and drag over the area I want to capture:

 

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I also setup the program to saves a JPEG to my desktop as soon as I let go of the left mouse button:

 

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I use a program called ScreenHunter 4.0. It's free and it is very easy to use! :D

I setup the program so that anytime I hit F6 it pops up a "+" so I can quickly left mouse click and drag over the area I want to capture:

So, do you like that screen capture app better than PrintKey-Pro?

 

Does it print the image? That is one of my main uses.

As fast as you can hit F6 and drag the mouse it creates auto-named JPEGs on your desktop. I drag and drop the JPEGs into PowerPoint at work. It's very fast and efficient! If you want to print them you can open them up on the desktop with whatever software you want and print them.

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What ever happened to Ctrl + Alt + Prnt Scrn ? :D
We were talking about capturing small areas and not the whole screen. Anyhow, I think this horse is dead....

 

Well, to be honest, I didn't know about that option either. I just wanted a way to capture those pictures when I saw them...

 

The picture just popped up again, so I grabbed it.

 

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Ancient Chinese secret........

 

And here I spent all that time trying to grab the picture, and RM beat me to it by over 2 weeks! :D

 

:D By the way, which one is Barbie?

 

I'm not going to touch that with a 10 foot GI Joe... :D

 

I believe the one bending over. Watch it; she's in law enforcement.

"I fought the law and the law won."

Now somebody else can have that song stuck on their head too! :D

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Hopefully someone in here can answer these questions for FishPOET

 

Some questions. We are trying to put together a loop for Saturday March 11 for stock 4wd vehicles starting on Hwy 78 heading West to S2 and then South to the mudcaves and then over to The Basilisk (GCPX5Q) and (GCH9C0) and (GCA44A) then back up to the campout. I have been reading cache descriptions, scouring USGS topo maps and Google Earth and reading chapter 8 from Charles Wells "So Cal Guide to Backroads and 4wd Trails" and I need some help figuring which trails connect and just how difficult they are.

#1) Are there crossover trails from Arroyo Tapiado to Arroyo Seco del Diablo between the mudcaves and the Basilisk and how difficult are they?

 

#2) Can you get from Harper Canyon Trail and Hwy 78 down to Fish Creek Wash Trail to the Basilisk and how difficult is it?

 

#3) From Arroyo Seco del Diablo to Fish Creek Wash to Split Mtn Rd the guidebook rates one small section "Diablo Droppoff as difficult while the cache page description rates it as 4WD is recommended but not required. How difficult is it?

 

Thank you for any and all information and help.

FishPOET

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Hopefully someone in here can answer these questions for FishPOET

 

Some questions. We are trying to put together a loop for Saturday March 11 for stock 4wd vehicles starting on Hwy 78 heading West to S2 and then South to the mudcaves and then over to The Basilisk (GCPX5Q) and (GCH9C0) and (GCA44A) then back up to the campout. I have been reading cache descriptions, scouring USGS topo maps and Google Earth and reading chapter 8 from Charles Wells "So Cal Guide to Backroads and 4wd Trails" and I need some help figuring which trails connect and just how difficult they are.

#1) Are there crossover trails from Arroyo Tapiado to Arroyo Seco del Diablo between the mudcaves and the Basilisk and how difficult are they?

 

#2) Can you get from Harper Canyon Trail and Hwy 78 down to Fish Creek Wash Trail to the Basilisk and how difficult is it?

 

#3) From Arroyo Seco del Diablo to Fish Creek Wash to Split Mtn Rd the guidebook rates one small section "Diablo Droppoff as difficult while the cache page description rates it as 4WD is recommended but not required. How difficult is it?

 

Thank you for any and all information and help.

FishPOET

 

RUSCAL and Gecko Dad can probably answer these better than I can, but the answer to #1 is NO, I don't think so. We searched for just just a crossover and came up empty. As for #2, I'm not sure where Harper Canyon Trail is, but you certainly can get from 78 to Fish Creek Wash. And for #3, the trail from the beginning of Sandstone Canyon to Diablo is for serious 4WD only. Nellie Belle handled it with grace and ease, but she is, after all, Nellie Belle. But we were going from the opposite direction (climbing the "drop-off"). I suppose going down would require less horsepower, but it would be a pretty wild ride...

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What ever happened to Ctrl + Alt + Prnt Scrn ? :)
We were talking about capturing small areas and not the whole screen. Anyhow, I think this horse is dead....

 

Anyone with a Mac can do screen captures without any special programs too - shift+apple+3 for whole screen grab, or shift+apple+4 to get a cursor and draw a rectangle around it.

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Hopefully someone in here can answer these questions for FishPOET

 

First off, the State Park Map is pretty good to help in route finding.

 

#1) Are there crossover trails from Arroyo Tapiado to Arroyo Seco del Diablo between the mudcaves and the Basilisk and how difficult are they?

 

Referring to the map that is linked above, you will see that Tapiado and Seco Del Diablo connect near their upper ends. You can get to both of these canyons from S2 via Vallecito Creek Wash/Rd. Vallecito Creek, Tapiado and Del Diablo are very sandy, but I have seen 2WD vehicles in them. There is basically no significant ground clearance issues, so if you have a 4WD along and a good tow rope, you should be OK going with a 2WD. To get to Fish Creek (which will take you to Sandstone Canyon where Basilisk is) from Seco Del Diablo, you have to take the Diablo Drop-Off. You don't want to take a 2WD on this trail. There is a steep sandy drop off, followed by a shorter very steep/difficult drop off. After you make it past the two drop offs, you have to go through a tight rocky canyon before you get to Fish Creek.

#2) Can you get from Harper Canyon Trail and Hwy 78 down to Fish Creek Wash Trail to the Basilisk and how difficult is it?

 

Harper Canyon Trail does not connect to Fish Creek. Most of the maps you will find on-line are wrong. See the linked map, it is correct. You can go up Fish Creek from Split Mountain road and then get to Sandstone Canyon. This is a sandy route but 2WD can do it if you have 4WD help in case you get stuck in the sand.

 

#3) From Arroyo Seco del Diablo to Fish Creek Wash to Split Mtn Rd the guidebook rates one small section "Diablo Droppoff as difficult while the cache page description rates it as 4WD is recommended but not required. How difficult is it?

 

See my comments on question 1.

 

Edit: One more thing - Don't even consider Pinyon Mountain Road to Hapaha Flat Road to Fish Creek unless you have a the right equipment and experience. You have to go through the Jeep Squeeze, through some challenging terrain and then down Heart Attack Hill. It's a lot of fun if you are equipped for it.

 

Edit 2: Way back in 92 when I got my first 4WD vehicle (Toyota Pickup), Mrs. Rocket Man and I made the trip down Vallecito Creek, up Seco Del Diablo, Down the Diablo drop off and then out Fish Creek. The vehicle was 2 days old and I got my first ding in the rocker panel going through the tight canyon after the drop off. Since then, I have taken that trip probably 30 or 40 times and it is still one of my favorites. I wish I could join you. Have Fun.

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delete :laughing:

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Yes I deleted my first entry because I thought it might offend someone.

:rolleyes:

 

Yes I know some of you are shocked...

 

I do care about pissing people off or offending them.

 

However comma I am very opinionated and have a very warped sense of humor.

 

This was a case of the second :blink:

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delete :laughing:

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Yes I deleted my first entry because I thought it might offend someone.

:P

 

Yes I know some of you are shocked...

 

I do care about pissing people off or offending them.

 

However comma I am very opinionated and have a very warped sense of humor.

 

This was a case of the second :rolleyes:

 

Aw, c'mon Dave, don't be so hard on yourself.

 

I've never known you to piss anyone off, or even offend them. :blink:

 

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delete :laughing:

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Yes I deleted my first entry because I thought it might offend someone.

:)

 

Yes I know some of you are shocked...

 

I do care about pissing people off or offending them.

 

However comma I am very opinionated and have a very warped sense of humor.

 

This was a case of the second :rolleyes:

 

Aw, c'mon Dave, don't be so hard on yourself.

 

I've never known you to piss anyone off, or even offend them. :P

 

:blink:

I thought it was funny and cracked a return joke, which I had to delete because it didn't make any sense without Dave's post.....

Anyhow if you were there at 9:30 last night you got a chuckle! :(

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Ok you ask for it!

 

Virgin cachers

 

ActionBarbie please do not hunt me down and kill me...I am an old man with the mind of a little boy!

 

:P:D:):):):D

 

This log is still cracking me up...."most willing to learn".

 

OK...must stop...lol I am going to piss my self... :D

 

 

OH no...another

 

Twin Peaks

 

:):D:P

 

OK...LOL....I am done...

:laughing::rolleyes::blink::(

I'm sure they'll always remember their first log!

It was very nice of them to thank One Shot too.....

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Question for all you San Diego folks... As some of you already know I'll be heading to SD for a business trip on March 11, and will have the whole day on the 12th to go caching. I know a lot of you will be at a desert campout event on the 12th, but I wanted to know what's the best way for me to get around the city for caching? I figured on a taxi, or maybe even renting a car for a day, but Chuy mentioned taking a trolley... is that the way to get around town? Or maybe even to other more distant areas? I'd like the input of you folks since you deal with travel on a daily basis. I'm still thinking of a rental car for Sunday the 12th so I can hit some more "out of the way" caches though... lots of the good one look like they're not going to be attainable by trolley.

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Question for all you San Diego folks... As some of you already know I'll be heading to SD for a business trip on March 11, and will have the whole day on the 12th to go caching. I know a lot of you will be at a desert campout event on the 12th, but I wanted to know what's the best way for me to get around the city for caching? I figured on a taxi, or maybe even renting a car for a day, but Chuy mentioned taking a trolley... is that the way to get around town? Or maybe even to other more distant areas? I'd like the input of you folks since you deal with travel on a daily basis. I'm still thinking of a rental car for Sunday the 12th so I can hit some more "out of the way" caches though... lots of the good one look like they're not going to be attainable by trolley.

 

You may be able to plan a day of caching using the Trolley but I think you are right, a rental car will be MUCH easier way to get around and will allow you to pick caches you want to find based on the cache not the path of the trolley.

Welcome to San Diego in advance!

Jeff / drexotic

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You may be able to plan a day of caching using the Trolley but I think you are right, a rental car will be MUCH easier way to get around and will allow you to pick caches you want to find based on the cache not the path of the trolley.

Welcome to San Diego in advance!

Jeff / drexotic

 

Thanks! I'm hoping I can pick up a car Sunday morning and drop it off Sunday night, not sure whether that will be possible but I'm going to make a few calls. Unfortunately it looks like a lot of the really cool caches require a 4x4 to get to, but I guess I can't have everything. :)

 

I've been looking over the favorites lists of a lot of SD people and I've decided I really need a way to get around. There are a couple caches I'd love to do, especially if I could find a few others to go with...

The Forbidden Forest looks really cool, and "None More Southwesterly" just seems like a neat one to do too while I'm in the area. (Jahoadi and John previously offered to head down to that one with me on Wednesday the 15th, if that offer's still open I'll take it!)

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Thanks! I'm hoping I can pick up a car Sunday morning and drop it off Sunday night, not sure whether that will be possible but I'm going to make a few calls. Unfortunately it looks like a lot of the really cool caches require a 4x4 to get to, but I guess I can't have everything. :)

 

I've been looking over the favorites lists of a lot of SD people and I've decided I really need a way to get around. There are a couple caches I'd love to do, especially if I could find a few others to go with...

The Forbidden Forest looks really cool, and "None More Southwesterly" just seems like a neat one to do too while I'm in the area. (Jahoadi and John previously offered to head down to that one with me on Wednesday the 15th, if that offer's still open I'll take it!)

I will be at the campout (at least on Saturday) but I won't be camping overnight. I have a feeling I won't go back out there on Sunday. If you want I could help you navigate your way around since I know most of the county but I am poor at planing (never know where I am going till I get there when I go out alone). I may need a couple hours of extra sleep in the morning though since I will probably be out late Saturday. Let me know what you think.

 

I also hope to join you guys on Wed. I have too much vacation time on the books so I should be able to take the afternoon or whole day off.

 

As for the original question though, I would recommend a car over using the trolley. It gets you places much faster and will get you out of the urban areas.

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You may be able to plan a day of caching using the Trolley but I think you are right, a rental car will be MUCH easier way to get around and will allow you to pick caches you want to find based on the cache not the path of the trolley.

Welcome to San Diego in advance!

Jeff / drexotic

 

Thanks! I'm hoping I can pick up a car Sunday morning and drop it off Sunday night, not sure whether that will be possible but I'm going to make a few calls. Unfortunately it looks like a lot of the really cool caches require a 4x4 to get to, but I guess I can't have everything. :)

 

 

You shouldn't have a problem getting a rental car for just a day, the airport rental locations are mostly 24hr. You *could* do plenty of caching using public transport, but it just wouldn't be the SoCal think to do, would it?!

 

If you want to do some nice hiking while you're caching, I'd recommend Mission Trails (www.mtrp.org) which is less than 20 minutes from downtown SD.....in a car of course :D

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You shouldn't have a problem getting a rental car for just a day, the airport rental locations are mostly 24hr. You *could* do plenty of caching using public transport, but it just wouldn't be the SoCal think to do, would it?!

 

If you want to do some nice hiking while you're caching, I'd recommend Mission Trails (www.mtrp.org) which is less than 20 minutes from downtown SD.....in a car of course :D

 

Actually, I just ran some PQ's off of the favorites lists of some prominent SD cachers, and for the most part their favorites aren't in downtown. So I reserved an econobox for the whopping sum of $26 for Sunday, March 12, and I'll shoot for some of "top 10%". I might end up switching the economy thing for a Jeep if it looks like that's what I'll need. Cost is about 3x more, but even $60 for a day of caching is still pretty cheap in my book.

 

Duganrm, if you're willing to play navigator I could definitely use one. I pick up the car at 9:00 AM Sunday. Although it looks like you've already hit many of the caches I'd like to... are there any that you have on your list that you're just waiting for someone to tag along with? I don't mind hiking a few miles or going underground, and snakes don't bother me. And if there's a nice view I'm there. Having never been to the desert, perhaps there are some there I should shoot for?

 

I think Forbidden Forest looks really cool, and would love to do that as a group hunt one of the nights I'm there. Some of the puzzle caches look really neat too (ie Local Treasure) but I'm not sure I'll be able to crack them with the limited time I have available.

 

I've burned my 5 PQ's for today, but am going to run more against the local favorites lists, then sort out those I'd be particularly interested in. I think I'll find enough to keep me busy for a day, and then some.

 

Hmmm... maybe I should get that Jeep... :)

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Wish you nothing but sunny skies when you get here!

Say, we have a couple of highly-qualified San Diego Geocachers that are really good at finding storm-drain caches during rain storms. Maybe you want to hook up with them? That would keep rain from falling on you.

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Wish you nothing but sunny skies when you get here!

Say, we have a couple of highly-qualified San Diego Geocachers that are really good at finding storm-drain caches during rain storms. Maybe you want to hook up with them? That would keep rain from falling on you.

 

Ha ha ha... you been reading my profile? :smile:

 

I've definitely learned my lesson about storm drains in the rain.

The log part 1 and the log part 2

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Wish you nothing but sunny skies when you get here!

Say, we have a couple of highly-qualified San Diego Geocachers that are really good at finding storm-drain caches during rain storms. Maybe you want to hook up with them? That would keep rain from falling on you.

 

Ha ha ha... you been reading my profile? :smile:

 

I've definitely learned my lesson about storm drains in the rain.

The log part 1 and the log part 2

Yeppur, I saw that you, D-Jollyman, and Passing Wind are made for each other.

 

Take some time and read this thread a few pages back for their interesting adventure. Maybe there's an open carnival niche for a trio of guys that get shot out of a cannon. Give it some serious thought before the summer games.

 

I want to watch,

Harmon

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Was anyone in the Clevenger Canyon area yesterday afternoon? I was zooming through on my way back from the desert at around 4.30pm and there was a rescue going on at one of the trailheads (Clevenger Cyn north trails I think) - firemen and lots of rubberneckers. Hope it was nothing serious, I can't find anything about it in the news...

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