Central Valley Cachers

[+fizzymagic]

There is one assumption that is required to get the correct answer: that the plane (the geometric kind, not the aircraft kind) of the explosion is horizontal.

 

Aside from that, it's just a matter of conserving momentum and cranking through the math.

[+Green Achers]

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Originally posted by fizzymagic:

There is one assumption that is required to get the correct answer: that the plane (the geometric kind, not the aircraft kind) of the explosion is horizontal.

 

Aside from that, it's just a matter of conserving momentum and cranking through the math.

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Thanks Fizzymagic,

 

It's hard to over come the thought of volocity effecting fall rate but I quickly caught the horizontal explosion clue. My hat off to George and all three of the people that got the correct coordinates (two of which also were successful in hunting the cache).

 

Hey, I just noticed something important missing from the Black Box cache site...

It's missing Mike's (C&MMorris) find log! Must be something wronge with the web site.

 

I'm going back to that music web site while I continue my calculations. I love a good challenge!

 

Bill of Green Achers

 

"A closed mouth gathers no feet!"

[+C&MMorris]

I have the coordinates I just havent went out and got the cache yet. I got the coordinates the fun way. I like the good old cache hunt. I'm not a big fan of math caches that's why you dont see my name with any. But since I have the coordinates for Black Box I will go and do it. How was you trip home from Reno? I'm going back in November 8 threw 11. I will take my jeep and get alot of caches up there next time. Mike

 

Flying is the 2nd greatest thrill known to man...Landing is the 1st

[+MartyFouts]

quote:

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Originally posted by fizzymagic:

There is one assumption that is required to get the correct answer: that the plane (the geometric kind, not the aircraft kind) of the explosion is horizontal.

 

Aside from that, it's just a matter of conserving momentum and cranking through the math.

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not to be a nit-picker, (okay, precisely to be a nit-picker ) but aren't there some other things you have to assume, like:

 

1) 'half the plane' means half the mass and not half the volume

 

2) in addition to air resistance, one needs to neglect lift

 

3) there wasn't any propulsion system still running on any of the pieces after the breakup

 

4) I dunno, but I'm sure I forgot something.

 

Maybe I'll go out this weekend and see if my math was right.

 

kg6nee

[+fizzymagic]

Mike:

 

What's "the fun way?" I think I remember George placing clues in other caches. Is that what you mean?

 

Marty:

 

What I meant about assumptions is that the one I named is the only one that George doesn't explicitly include, or isn't implied by those he does include.

 

You ought to go get that one! There is another nearby that is also a cache with a lot of style. On the day I did Black Box, I also did American Coot, which is my one and only underwater cache (so far!). Sadly, it is now archived, but there was something amazing about swimming out into the middle of the lake, diving down where the GPS indicated, and finding a cache!

 

And yes, I am working on one for Lake Del Valle.

[+georgeandmary]

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Originally posted by Marty Fouts:

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Originally posted by fizzymagic:

There is one assumption that is required to get the correct answer: that the plane (the geometric kind, not the aircraft kind) of the explosion is horizontal.

 

Aside from that, it's just a matter of conserving momentum and cranking through the math.

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not to be a nit-picker, (okay, precisely to be a nit-picker ) but aren't there some other things you have to assume, like:

 

1) 'half the plane' means half the mass and not half the volume

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2) in addition to air resistance, one needs to neglect lift

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you negeletct air resistance because it was a super sercret plane with a hmmmmm 'frictionless' surface.. yeah, that's it.

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3) there wasn't any propulsion system still running on any of the pieces after the breakup

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the propulsion system was probablly the part that blew up

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4) I dunno, but I'm sure I forgot something.

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you forgot that the earth is curved and that the elvations of the landing points are not all the same.

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Maybe I'll go out this weekend and see if my math was right.

 

kg6nee

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There are many other caches in the area so you can make a day of it.

 

george

 

Remember: Half the people you meet are below average.

[+C&MMorris]

Fizzy, That's where I got them. George put them in a couple of caches that have a beautiful view. They are in caches that when you stand still on the right day a cloud will come right at you. You can actully go threw a cloud without being in an airplane. How do you do that you ask? find the right cache and you will see.

 

I have one flight down and one more to go. I hope everyone has a great day!! Mike

 

Flying is the 2nd greatest thrill known to man...Landing is the 1st

[Ron Streeter]

....are in several other caches too as I didn't find myself in cloud cover when I found them. They were hand-written entries in some found logs that George wrote in other people's caches. Neat idea for the non-math types like Mike and I.

 

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My King Tut's Treasure cache has only been found by one team. They went to 4 caches to discover the coordinates. They only had to go to two, but they covered their tracks by going to all four so no one else would discover the secret easily.

 

There are several valley cachers who have at least one of the coordinates, but haven't made the required trek for the other.

 

I think I will place the King Tut's coords in other caches to give the poor king some visitors, otherwise it might be a year before anyone gets there !

 

Ron

 

I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

[+Green Achers]

I'm going crazy with all the possible factors but I think I'm getting close to the right area. George did a great job in creating this and handled Marty's questions well.

 

I'm still having problems adding in my calculated measurements (in meters) into the WGS-84 datum. While JeEep.com is a nice site, I can't get it to help me there... but maybe that's because I'm a farmer and if this problem happened to a tractor, it would still be sitting in the same place! That's why tractors don't have a Black Box.

 

I think I'll even go out to Black Box if I get the correct coordinates.

 

Mike, Don't worry about not being able to do the math on this one as you're not likely to need to know how. It's the rescuers that need this skill, not the victims. Sorry! It's been a hard week and I'm having a great laugh. To answer your question, Yes, we got home in great shape and in good time. We had lots of fun and even planted a cache (Reno Air Race Cache) and found a cache too.

 

Bill of Green Achers

 

"A closed mouth gathers no feet!"

[+georgeandmary]

Did you know that Dirt Hawker moved away? He left about over a month ago and I volunteered to watch his caches. He emailed the admin and asked them to change ownership to me but it never happend. I'll check up on them once in a while anyway.

 

george

 

Remember: Half the people you meet are below average.

[Ron Streeter]

...Arizona...at least that's where his last two caches were found in mid July. Hope he isn't spreadeagled out in the desert somewhere !

 

Ron

 

I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

[+C&MMorris]

I will go and get your Reno air race cache in November along with some other ones. The math is not a problem to do, I more or less teach it to my flight students. I just dont like doing them.

I just got back from my last flight, I went to San Jose and around the Bay area. What a beautiful night to fly. Wait!! every night is a good night to fly.[]

 

I think we are going up to Apple Hill this weekend to do some caching. It looks like alot of neat caches in that area. Mike

 

Flying is the 2nd greatest thrill known to man...Landing is the 1st

[+georgeandmary]

It's still there. I went to check on it thinking some locals might have swiped it but I could see it as I walked up to the area.

 

 

george

 

Remember: Half the people you meet are below average.

[+georgeandmary]

A couple of days ago some guy working in Pedretti park picked up a bomb while clean the porta potties. That's the same park with Arrowhead and Home Run on 99.

 

Torn the guy up pretty badly.

 

george

 

Remember: Half the people you meet are below average.

[Ron Streeter]

....Guess I'll have to take another run at the Hole Again cache. Maybe I'll broaden my search a bit. Anxious to see where it is.

 

Ron

 

I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

[kurtuleas]

Last night as I was driving home over the altimont I ran otta gas. I don't know why cause my gas gauge read 1/4 tank. Anyway, I figured what else am I gonna do while I wait for my father to bring me some gas but hide a cache! I posted it this morning so it should be up in a couple of days. and I keep complaining I don't have any time.....

 

While I was placing the cache I saw this wierd light flash in the sky over the valley. Did any of you guys see that last night? It was really bright.

 

Wish me luck, we play Tennyson HS tonight

 

KURTULEAS

[+ZachNLiam]

Yes, I saw that "light" last night. The last time I saw something that looked just like that it was some kind of rocket testing over the ocean, but this was more South, so I don't know where it was. It's vapor trail was incredibly high in the sky though because it was still lit after the sun had gone down and the sky was relatively dark. Whatever it was blew up. I could see the distant "firework" display of it.

 

Just a day before Dirt Hawker left for Arizona I had asked him about going down one of the rivers around here and he told me why he wouldn't be albe to... I wished him luck.

[+georgeandmary]

Mary called me last night while I was on the road tell me that she thought she saw a plane blow up. I was in Hilmar and I could see the vapor trail high in the sky but never saw the actual flight and explosion.

 

Later that night the news explained that it was a missle test.

 

george

 

Remember: Half the people you meet are below average.

[+fizzymagic]

Another opportunity for a geocache hide, George, kinda like Black Box.

[kurtuleas]

Jeeesh!!! Fizzy, you don't mess around. I can't belive you found the Blue Bandit that soon after I logged it in.

 

I was SURE that Streeter would be the FTF. Good job though....

 

KURTULEAS

[+Green Achers]

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Originally posted by kurtuleas:

Jeeesh!!! Fizzy, you don't mess around. I can't belive you found the Blue Bandit that soon after I logged it in.

 

I was SURE that Streeter would be the FTF. Good job though....

 

KURTULEAS

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Wrong... I was going to be the FTF after seeing you there yesterday. Funny to see you didn't put a can of gas in the cache (but I guess that wouldn't be safe).

 

Now, lets see if I'm right (about seeing you). Cache log to follow.

 

Bill of Green Achers

 

"A closed mouth gathers no feet!"

[+Fallen]

Hi everyone. I just found this forum so I'll move in for a bit.

About the UFO Mary saw. Some of the high school students are telling me it was a missile Probably some test thing, but I am imagining the newspapers will tell us it is a terrorist thing.

 

Cache on!

~`Fallen`~

 

I am always confused, lost, or heading the wrong direction... Who cares?!?

[Ron Streeter]

....I do make long runs for a cache, but usually I want to grab 5 or more if I make a long haul....60 miles or so.

 

Those trips usually turn in to a 200 mile round trip by the time I make the loop for 5 to 10 caches.

 

Today....

 

Hot, hot and hot. I worked in the yard with cool air-condtioning close at hand.

 

Also I have completely redone my laptop and am experimenting with new software, so that is a cool activity too.

 

True fall weather is coming...a lot of cachers will appreciate that !

 

Ron

 

I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

 

[This message was edited by Ron Streeter on September 20, 2002 at 04:43 PM.]

[+georgeandmary]

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Originally posted by Fallen:

Hi everyone. I just found this forum so I'll move in for a bit.

 

I am always confused, lost, or heading the wrong direction... Who cares?!?

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I work with Matt over at the High School and let me confirm that he is sick. A couple of nights ago he asked me about "man bites dog" he had searched in all the places except 1. I hinted that he may need to go check that last one. I went home that evening and what comes across my email? Fallen went out at 9:30 at night to find the cache. He couldn't wait for the next day. Is that a sign of the sickness? I think so.

 

george

 

Remember: Half the people you meet are below average.

[+C&MMorris]

If I would have stayed in the air 10 more minutes, I would of had a nice view of the rocket. I was flying with a rocket specialist from the local lab.

Fizzy. Which part of the lab do you work in? I fly with a couple of lab guys. Both are very nice people. It came to my attention that you guys are celebrating your 50 years or something. It's funny that the pens that they gave the employees are made in China. Maybe it's part of the Clinton agreement.( I give you our nuke secerets and you make our celebration pens.)

 

Hope everyone has a good weekend. Mike

 

Flying is the 2nd greatest thrill known to man...Landing is the 1st

 

[This message was edited by C&MMorris on September 20, 2002 at 09:18 PM.]

[+fizzymagic]

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Originally posted by kurtuleas:

 

Jeeesh!!! Fizzy, you don't mess around. I can't belive you found the Blue Bandit that soon after I logged it in.

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I've got this automatic email notification when new geocaches appear nearby, so when I got up this morning, there it was. Since it was only about 4 miles from my house, I figured "why not?"

 

It was fun.

 

Mike:

 

I work in the Physics directorate, for what it's worth. Maybe I know the people you fly with.

 

Anyone want to come visit the Lab on Sunday? I am taking several people in, but nowhere near my limit of 10. The only requirement is that you're an America citizen and not a terrrorist. I can assure you that the Lab open house days are an unforgettable experience! They only happen every few years, and this one is special.

 

Ron:

 

I finished my Perl script to make a database of your found caches. I sent you the results. Hope you have fun. Anyone else who'd like a spreadsheet of their finds is welcome to one; just write and ask me.

 

[This message was edited by fizzymagic on September 21, 2002 at 12:41 AM.]

[+Pepper]

oh how sweet it is! Thanks Fizzy for all the time comsuming work you put into to my database, I LIKE IT!

 

Pepper

 

Horizontals where it's at!

[+Pepper]

Hi and good morning to all the Valley Cachers.

 

Pepper

 

Horizontals where it's at!

[+MartyFouts]

I just wanted to say that I think that Black Box is a cool puzzle, and I meant my 'nit-picking' as a tease. I think George has done a great job with it, and I'm looking forward to getting the chance to go out and check my math by finding it.

 

kg6nee

[Ron Streeter]

...for the spreadsheet showing my finds. The pivot table reminds me of me going around in pivoting circles looking for a cache!

 

As partial repayment of this kindness, I promise to be less "obfuscatory" in my cache descrtiptions !

 

Ron

 

I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

[+fizzymagic]

Ron knew I was talking about him in another thread...

 

I almost always have a hard time finding Ron's caches. I've decided we just don't think the same way. But it's not his fault his cache descriptions are, well, you know...

 

Seriously, I do not blame Ron for the fact that his caches are too hard for me. This is a case where it is always clearly my fault.

 

By the way (and completely unrelated), I made up a neologism that is my current favorite:

 

Moronitude.

 

You'll know it when you see it. There's a lot of it on Bay Area freeways.

[Ron Streeter]

....I forgot the other part of my "thank you" for the spreadsheet.

 

I'm going to place a cache for you to find. I'm just starting to think about it, so it may be awhile. You'll Find it !

 

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The pivot table looks great. Seeing a breakdown month by month for the last 1.5 years and then the breakdown by cache type is really interesting.

 

I thought I had about 6 locationless, and this shows exactly that number. The mystery caches I guess are the ones that have a question mark as their icons.

 

Following the data across a month to see the totals for that month was neat too. I could see my early interest in our hobby, then a slackening, then a big resurgence when the Modesto, Ceres, Patterson crew came along. I think my biggest find month was 58 caches in one month, with some 30 and 40+ months also. Those are all this year. That also has to do with the availability of caches now compared to Feb of '01.

 

Anyway, thanks again, and any of the other areas cachers should take fizzy up on this contribution to our fun. It really is interesting to see the pivot table.

 

regards,

 

Ron

 

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Just dawned on me...a "hides" table would be neat too !

 

I've never been lost. Fearsome confused sometimes, but never lost.

[+fizzymagic]

They are cool, aren't they? You can drag other fields onto the table. Try, for example, dragging the "Type" field off the table (back onto the little toolbar thingie floating in the middle of the screen) and then drag the "difficulty" field onto the place left. Now you can see how the difficulties of the caches you have done have changed over time.

 

Or try using the "state" field to see where you have found the caches. You can place it along the left, and you don't have to have any field along the top.

 

Overall, I think the interactive Pivot Tables are one of the very best features of Excel.

[+Pepper]

Nice run ya'll had yesterday! I'm thinking I will just follow in ya'll bike tracks seeings how all the research has been done for a day of caching. Although I will not be on a bike(cause I don't have one) I'm wondering if you think this marathon can be done by foot in five hours, that's all I have on any given weekday. Kids leave for school at 8AM amd must be home by 3PM!

 

Pepper

 

George I have been tinkering around with the idea of a bike and have not been on one in at least 10 years. Got any suggestions. This idea is mainly for caching, oh and exrecise.

Tell Mary hello for me, and I hope ya'll little Kelly is ok.

 

Horizontals where it's at!

[+Fallen]

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Nice run ya'll had yesterday! I'm thinking I will just follow in ya'll bike tracks seeings how all the research has been done for a day of caching. Although I will not be on a bike(cause I don't have one) I'm wondering if you think this marathon can be done by foot in five hours, that's all I have on any given weekday. Kids leave for school at 8AM amd must be home by 3PM!

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We actually only picked up 2 caches with the bikes. The rest of them we just ran out and got them. Most of them were easy so it is possible you could do them in 5 hours. Just drive faster. George's Boxie Bronco doesn't pick up all that fast.

 

About the bike. If you are going to use it for caching think mountain bike. Ask George because he has been biking for WAY longer then I have, but you want something you can go off the road with.

 

~`Fallen`~

 

I am always confused, lost, or heading the wrong direction... Who cares?!?

[+Green Achers]

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Originally posted by SuperGenius:

George I have been tinkering around with the idea of a bike and have not been on one in at least 10 years. Got any suggestions. This idea is mainly for caching, oh and exrecise.

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Hey Pepper,

 

I'm adding in my two cents worth (as you did post this question). I'm sure George will have a great reply but here's you go.

 

Mountain Bikes have come a long way (since I used to race them). You can get a rather nice bike for cheep at Walmart or CostCo. However, a bike store's bike will be made with more quality (usually having a long warrenty on the frame which is the weak part of most department store bikes). You get what you pay for... but that's not as crutial as it once was due to better technology.

 

Where ever you get your bike, a mountain bike is the all time favorite. They are ideal for Geocaching in that they are made to be ridden on the same terrain that I've found most stashes. Fat tire don't sink into most soft surfaces (even on Bull Durham cache which had a lot of sandy areas).

 

To prevent flats, I highly suggest you install "Mr. Tuffys" in the tires. The valley has a weed called puncture vine which flatten tires. Most stores want you to use gater snott (or whatever they call their green slime). Snott makes a big mess and plugs you filling valve. I've never gotten a flat on a bike with Mr. Tuffys. (I only use snott in tubless tires).

 

One last pointer for a bike... I'd lock it up, even if you're watching your vehicle while caching. I "donated" a bike not long ago when it was in the bed of my truck, alarm was on and I thought I was not too far away. It ruined my day but made someone elses.

 

Bill of Green Achers

 

"A closed mouth gathers no feet!"

[+Pepper]

So for my first Mtn Bike would you suggest a WalMart Bike? I have no idea if I will even be able to make up to certain caches on a bike. I also have no idea if I would be riding much, I can just see me pushing the darn thang all the way UP! So as newbie I guess i'm asking would the WalMart Brand do me untill I deside if I like it or not.

 

Pepper

 

Horizontals where it's at!

[kurtuleas]

Hey!! Did you guys hear that the stones are back at the altimont? Well maybe not the REAL rolling stones, but I placed a cache there today. it should be up soon.....

 

Hotfoot said that my "Blue Bandit" cache is not a "world Class" cache, but hey what do you guys expect from a white trash redneck kinda guy? That almost hurt my feelings though.......

 

Spent some time in Banta today, because I thought it would be a cool spot to leave a cache, but I couldn't find ANYWHERE to place the micro I had on me. I was tempted to make the Banta Inn a virtual....but then I came to my senses.

 

KURTULEAS

[+georgeandmary]

There are two basic styles of bikes that would be good for a casual biker rider and a geocacher. Either a hybrid or a mountain bike.

 

Mountain bikes are good, fat tires, low gears, come with suspension. Many affordable moutain bikes come with suspesion front forks and suspension seat posts. Look for one with a tall stem so that you're not hunched over a lot. Hunched over positions are for the bike racers who want to go fast and climb steep trails without their front wheel popping up off the dirt. You don't need that.

 

Hybrids are nice too. They have low gears, comfortable riding position, wide handlebars and suspension. They're good for paved trail and stuff like canal banks. They have larger wheels but they're tires are not as fat so they're not good in the really soft loose dirt. They're meant for bike paths and some dirt riding.

 

Some Trek Bikes

 

Specialized Bikes

 

I would recomend buying from a bike shop but I'm bias. I used to work in one. If something goes wrong with the bike the bike shop will back up their work. They usually throw a 30 day tune up since a new bike breaks in. The cables stretch and shifting goes out of adjustment. This is expected with a new bike. A bike shop will go over the bike for you once it breaks in.

Plus a bike shop will help fit you to the right bike, you can ride different models to see what you like, try the different shifting options (grip shift or triggers) and usually have a larger selection to match your price range. You can see a hybrid and a mountain bike right next to each other and talk to the bike shop guy and tell him what type of riding you expect to do.

 

You can buy a decent bike from a department store but they're often put together by a high school kid working on minimum wage. Mongoose now sells in Walmart. But if you have any questions about the bike, you're on your own.

 

Again, I come from a bike shop mentality so you know where I lean. I've seen bikes come into the shop a week after being bought at the department store. The shifting would be off, the brakes were miss adjusted and stuff was just loose.

 

george

 

Remember: Half the people you meet are below average.

[+georgeandmary]

quote:

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Originally posted by kurtuleas:

 

Spent some time in Banta today, because I thought it would be a cool spot to leave a cache, but I couldn't find ANYWHERE to place the micro I had on me. I was tempted to make the Banta Inn a virtual....but then I came to my senses.

 

KURTULEAS

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I've found a virtual cache that was a hotel room someone stayed at.

 

george

 

Remember: Half the people you meet are below average.

[+georgeandmary]

OH... Livermore Cyclery is suposed to be a really nice bike shop in your area. I have a lot of friends who have said good things about it.

 

I found their link... LIvermore Cyclery

 

george

 

Remember: Half the people you meet are below average.

[+georgeandmary]

Mary and I took Fizzy up on his invitation to visit the Lab today. It was HOT but we had a good time. Got to see the worlds biggest laser. It was big... really big. Plus we got to check out some of the other exhibits before we headed out to do some caching. Makes me want to go back to school.

 

george

 

Remember: Half the people you meet are below average.

[+Fattuhr]

Just wanted to leave a note for all who have seen this cache pop up, and planned on going for it. At this time it is disabled until the other finders have posted their find, then it will be archived. I went with the Jaimee and the Morris' to watch them find it about an hour after it got approved. When they found it I was highly disappointed as it was not as I left it. Who knows for what reason this happened as I am not pointing any fingers. I know that there were 30-40 people BBQing not far from the cache when we got there. Maybe they saw something and decided to check it out. I put on the cache page that there were two compartments to the container and to check both. When I saw the contents they were all shoved into one bag and placed back in the container completly tearing the bag up. I've read the logs in the book and it appears that the only thing taken from the cache was the Travel bug, yet there were other things missing from it but no new trade items left. So I have decided to archive it, and place it in another area that is not so busy. It will be awhile though as it took time to place and make sure that it would be OK.

 

My wife says put a coordinate on it and I'll find it.

[+JaimeeG]

Hello all

 

What a dissapointment to find a cache in the shape that Pat's new one was found this afternoon. I just wanted to add a few more things to what Pat had to say already.

 

I had not done any caching since hitting 200, and that was for several reasons. One of the main reasons was my lack of time. I had just been telling Pat earlier that another reason I have not been so into caching lately is that so many of the caches we have found in the last several months haven't been worth the time to hunt for them. Several have been in just downright nasty, dirty, dangerous places; others have been caches full of garbage, crud that should have been thrown in the trash instead of in a cache container. I don't cache just to see what I can find in a container somewhere, but it does add to the fun.

 

My final reason for not caching much was the fact that I really don't want to put out anymore cash. After having a couple of caches "lost", it turned me off to placing anymore of them.

 

Soooo, when I got to Pat's cache today and discovered the condition it was in, it pretty much affirmed my reasons for losing the caching bug.

 

There is no way to know who did this to the cache unless it was, in fact, a cacher and they just come out and say "Yea..I tore it up."

 

I just have a really hard time understanding why a non-cacher would take the time to open the cache, go through all the contents, half crumble the GeoNote, put all the items back into one bag when they were originally in two, and then take 3 items. The items missing were 2 bottles of handwash and a GeoCoin. What kind of sense does that make??? If it was a non-cacher that happened upon the cache, it would make much more sense for everything to be missing.

 

I don't think there is really any solution to this type of problem, but it most definitely contributes to my less-than-eager attitude toward caching these days.

 

Jaimee

 

Before criticizing others, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you do the criticizing, you will have their shoes AND be a mile away!

[+Pepper]

Wow that's alot of info thanks a bunch. I printed out your post and plan on taking it with me when I go look at bikes. I will try the Livermore Bike Shop first and go prepared with my info from your post.

 

Pepper

 

Horizontals where it's at!

[+georgeandmary]

I went to check on one of the Slim Jim's today. The MJC version of the cache has been archived. The little area where it was hidden is now locked behind two large steel doors. You'd need a ladder or a really big set of bolt cutters to get to it. Funny.

 

george

 

Remember: Half the people you meet are below average.

[+JaimeeG]

I wonder why they enclosed that area? Could have been all the folks snooping around, especially since the security office was directly behind there and a camera was aimed right at that site! I noticed that when we were there looking and got a chuckle out of it. Several people walked past us in the little courtyard, before we starting looking at the metal areas, and they paid us no attention at all. Luckily, we had two little mini-Morris's to give us an excuse for being around the metal area!

 

Jaimee

 

Before criticizing others, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you do the criticizing, you will have their shoes AND be a mile away!

[+georgeandmary]

If you remember, there were two areas, both were completly sealed off, and the other little alcoves further down the side walk were all closed down too. I wonder if I caught them between construction or if it was something else.

 

george

 

Remember: Half the people you meet are below average.

[+JaimeeG]

Actually, when we were there, the area directly adjacent to where the cache was had been all cordoned off. It looked like maybe they were getting ready to build something there.

 

You probably did get there in the middle of some construction.

 

I have looked at several spots over at the east campus. Actually, I had placed a cache in a really cool spot and then realized a security guard was watching me the entire time. OOPS!! We left, drove around, and then came back and grabbed it out of there. I could just see the bomb squad sitting there or something.

 

It would be really hard to get to that spot now that school has started up again. You would have to visit on a weekend or late in the evening, and even then, you would most likely rouse the suspicions of the security guards.

 

Jaimee

 

Before criticizing others, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you do the criticizing, you will have their shoes AND be a mile away!

[+Fallen]

This is really too bad. I just decided to get on the forum to see if anything was said about it. It looks really bad on me right now and I just have to accept that. So I am just saying what I know and maybe it will all work out.

When I got there everything was just kind of shoved into the cache with no order or anything to it. I had to remove items from the bag in order to even get the bad out because of how stuff was in there. I think I might have tore the bag doing this and I will admit to that part. I had to un-crumble the geonote to figure out what it was. But...when I left I made sure I put everything back in the bag, with the geonote as smoothed out as I could facing out of the bag so people could see it as they pulled it out. I made sure that everything came in and out smoothly. No one was around to watch us, and we walked around for a while to make it look like we were just there to relax in the park. When we got there the Antibacterial soap and the GeoCoin were no where to be found.

 

Not to be looked down upon. Trashers are losers.

~`Fallen`~

 

I am always confused, lost, or heading the wrong direction... Who cares?!?