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9 minutes ago, Stephan_1977 said:

but if I'm trying to find a cache that is not spot on, how far away can/may it be away from the coordinates?

That depends on the cache owner's skills on how to get the coordinates. They may hundreds of meters off. There is no rule for it.

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The Guidelines say "The cache owner must visit the geocache location to get accurate coordinates with a GPS-enabled device" so the CO should try to make their coordinates as accurate as they can. But some locations can be difficult, such as in a steep gully that has only a narrow view of the sky, so there's no hard and fast rule. It's not acceptable to have deliberately inaccurate coordinates just to make the cache harder to find.

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2 hours ago, barefootjeff said:

It's not acceptable to have deliberately inaccurate coordinates just to make the cache harder to find.

Exactly. Under ideal conditions, a consumer GPSr will be accurate to about 3m (10ft). That applies both to the seeker's device, and to the cache owner’s device, so you may find the container 5-6m (16-20ft) from ground zero under ideal conditions. But that happens normally. Cache owners should never use deliberately inaccurate coordinates to make a cache harder to find. That doesn't make the cache harder to find; it just makes people search in the wrong place.


Of course, under less than ideal conditions, both GPSr readings can be much less accurate. I've found caches in locations where my device's Estimated Position Error (EPE) was more than 30m (100ft). But the cache owner had the same issue, explained that in the description, and provided good hints to help narrow down the cache location so seekers could find it.

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5 hours ago, Stephan_1977 said:

What is the maximum distance a cache (the actual case/box) can be hidden from the coordinates given for that geocache? I think I read somewhere that it is 10 meters (about 30 feet), but I can't find that information anymore. Does someone know?

 

4 hours ago, HHL said:

Ideally, the cache should be hidden spot on.

Unfortunately some people deliberately provide coordinates that are "close by" to "make it more challenging". This is what I thought the OP was asking. As HHL stated, spot on is ideal!

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4 hours ago, Stephan_1977 said:

Of course, but if I'm trying to find a cache that is not spot on, how far away can/may it be away from the coordinates?

13 miles away. 

I know that's not what you meant, but it happens way too often. 

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6 hours ago, Stephan_1977 said:

What is the maximum distance a cache (the actual case/box) can be hidden from the coordinates given for that geocache? I think I read somewhere that it is 10 meters (about 30 feet), but I can't find that information anymore. Does someone know?

 

If you read "10 meters", it might have been about when to put the GPS away, and start looking for hiding spots.  If the precision of both the hider's and hunter's GPS is 5 meters, the cache could be as far as 10 meters (or 30 feet) from where the cache hunter is standing.  Both can obtain better readings with patience and practice.

 

There are also guidelines for placing certain cache types.  Mystery caches for example can't be more than 3.2km (2 miles) from the posted "bogus coordinates".  In any case, the final coordinates for a cache should be as accurate as possible.

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8 hours ago, Stephan_1977 said:

What is the maximum distance a cache (the actual case/box) can be hidden from the coordinates given for that geocache? I think I read somewhere that it is 10 meters (about 30 feet), but I can't find that information anymore. Does someone know?

 

6 hours ago, Stephan_1977 said:

Of course, but if I'm trying to find a cache that is not spot on, how far away can/may it be away from the coordinates?

 

I haven't found a cache that was "spot on" since starting this hobby...

When some see "spot on", they don't notice that their location accuracy is off, maybe up-to 26'.   :)

There is no "maximum" distance, we're supposed to provide coordinates as accurately as possible.

Civilian GPS is still only accurate to around 10 feetbut that accuracy depends on both you and the CO, so you could be off "up to" maybe 30 feet...

Here, just a few iron ore rocks in the area could throw you off in signal bounce, and you could be 6' one minute, and 40 the next.

When we're walking, that GPSr gets put away when the reading is 25 feet or so, and we start looking.

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On 11/23/2021 at 2:08 AM, cerberus1 said:

I haven't found a cache that was "spot on" since starting this hobby...

 

I was hunting for one cache, followed the GPS to GZ, looked down and I was almost standing on it! Though this was one of my earlier finds, so I suspect that this was more of a case of dumb luck rather than the wonders of technology! :D

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1 hour ago, Unit473L said:

I was hunting for one cache, followed the GPS to GZ, looked down and I was almost standing on it! Though this was one of my earlier finds, so I suspect that this was more of a case of dumb luck rather than the wonders of technology! :D

I've lost count of the number of times that I have arrived at GZ, set down my backpack (or parked my bike) to mark The Spot®, searched and searched and expanded my search radius, started over at The Spot®, and found my backpack (or bike) sitting on top of the cache.

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