Montana 700 experience and review

[+DragonsWest]

For the benefit of those considering this unit, I have it one for over a year.

 

1. Get the AA back.  You will need it.  Eventually you will come to depend upon it.  The power switch on the 700 is too easily bumped, powering it up.  I'm sitting at my desk and hear a Beep, the 700 was evidently on all night and is down to 9%.  This is not the first time I have found the battery running down, usually it's just before I grab it to take on a hike.  The ability to swap in commodity batteries found at any store is A GOOD THING.  The Lithium battery had impressive life early on, but it's already showing some age.  I can go through 60% of it in a day, no problem.  Having a backup Lithium Ion is about $50, nuts to that, I run a lot of consumer electronics on NiMH AA cells and keep a dozen in a Storacell (Glow in the dark) battery carrier in backpack at all times, that's 4 rotations, which is about enough for any weekend camping trip and you can get a dozen, with charger for less than $50.  I use all power saving options, including the double-tap of the power button to darken the screen when not reading (or using the face as a writing surface for signing logs.)

 

2. This GPSr has the feel of the guts of the smaller Oregon (think 600) in a larger package and driving a larger display.  It can be excruciatingly slow, particularly when using TOPO maps.  The touch interface appears less responsive and somewhat indecisive compared to the Oregon 600.

 

3.  So far I have not hit a cap on pocket queries (my preferred means of loading caches.)  I keep various lists (Renowned caches, virtuals, earthcaches, solved puzzles, all caches, etc.) to minimize clutter or maximize my surroundings for attempting cache placement.  I've had over 15,000 caches loaded, no compression.

 

4. The lack of a carabiner to clip easily onto belt, vest or pack strap is a real nuisance. This thing is heavy and bulky.  When just hiking along it is very preferable to have it hung up somewhere, freeing hands.   I bought the bicycle handlebar mount and just use the four screws to clamp in a bit of woven strap through a carabiner and it works well.  It's holds firmly and frees me up to scramble rocks, structures, slippery slopes, etc.  Still more bulky than the Oregon 600, but I need the larger screen so that's the trade off.

 

5.  As batteries run lower, even a drop of 0.1 v, on lithium or NiMH the display still goes nuts and won't show logs, descriptions, flickers a lot.  That's been a problem since the Oregon 600, clearly not addressed in the Montana 700.  Cycle power and you're good to go again.  Beats me why it cares about voltage drop, other than dropping below minimum, which can still be a long way off.

 

6. Accuracy appears to be very good, the external antenna nub seems to provide considerable improvement over the Oregon 600.  It catches on everything, much of the back of the case is that sticky rubber, so just deal with it.

 

7. Most functions are consistent from the Oregon 450 on up.  Short learning curve to get out and caching.

 

8. I still keep all my maps and caches in the micro SD.  These are easily enough swapped if going from state to state.  When I'd attend a Mega or GeoWoodstock I'd usually have a micro SD already prepped for where I was going to, specific maps, pocket queries, solved puzzles, etc.  I have not encountered a common issue with the Oregon 450 and 600, that of caches all disappearing, leaving only Waypoints.  I'm wary that it may yet happen, at the worst possible time (like middle of the night, driving county to county, state to state, where I want to pick up caches in specific locations,) but easily remedied by powering down, removing the micro SD, powering up, powering down, replacing the micro SD and powering up again.  It takes a while to reload all maps and caches, but there they are.  If this malfunction happens with things in the internal memory you need a computer to help you out (copy all maps, queries, waypoints to a disc folder, erase them from the internal memory, cycle power, then write them all back where they came from, cycle power again.)

 

In summary, the Montana 700 works and has a bigger, easier to read screen (especially if you download the larger icon set,) but it still has some of the quirks of its predecessors and you really will need that AA-back, get it.

[+StefandD]

I have the Montana 700 over a year, too.

 

1./5. Never had any issues with the battery or power button. Never needed AA batteries. The battery pack can easily last a full cacher's day.

 

2. I use the TOPO maps all the time, but never experienced "excruciatingly slowness".

 

4. To get my hands free, I took a cord from a transceiver. Works like a charm.

[+Petitbois]

Hello

Thank you for the feedback, l'm looking for the a protective coover, like this one https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B08VS587FF/

If you have something else to offer me thank you in advance  

Moderator edit: removed referral codes. Please don't include referral data.

Edited October 3, 2021 by robertlipe

[+StefandD]

I don't know that one, I use this one:https://www.amazon.nl/dp/B08HPP4GRP

But that is just protection for the screen. I don't use a complete cover.

Edited October 3, 2021 by robertlipe
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[+Atlas Cached]

5 hours ago, Petitbois said:

Hello

Thank you for the feedback, l'm looking for the a protective coover, like this one...

If you have something else to offer me thank you in advance  

 

Do you not like that cover?

 

Many additional options are listed at GPSrChive.

[+Petitbois]

Thank you for the link which leads to https://www.gpsrchive.com/,  it is also the same product as on Amazon, given the taken I thought that the quality may not be there but I will order not finding anything else Thanks for your answers, good caches 

[capt caper]

On 9/17/2021 at 1:38 PM, StefandD said:

I have the Montana 700 over a year, too.

 

1./5. Never had any issues with the battery or power button. Never needed AA batteries. The battery pack can easily last a full cacher's day.

 

2. I use the TOPO maps all the time, but never experienced "excruciatingly slowness".

 

4. To get my hands free, I took a cord from a transceiver. Works like a charm.

I totally agree. I put over 100 miles of all day hikes on it since July alone  and never had issues with battery life  or map issues since bought new last winter. I run it all day long and never shut it down until the end of these all day hikes. And constantly have at least 75 % battery life left. 

  I tried the AA pack and found it not only heavier but much more bulkier. The Lithium pack has been awesome for my all day use. Charges fast and last's alot longer then aa's.  I did buy another LI pack for back up but never have used it.  

  The maps load fast zooming in etc for me. I have Garmin only topo's like 24k northeast and most of NH in birdseye installed. 

I've owned many hand held Garmins since 1998 and this is the best for use so far. 

  The only thing I don't like is if I forget to hit the power button twice to put the screen black and in sleep mode while hiking it will jam up the screen so I have to re start it but it doesn't loose the activity or tracking while jammed. Odd. No big deal as I love the unit. 

Edited September 30, 2021 by capt caper

[+Atlas Cached]

And the Montana 7x0 is only going to get even better!

[+MaliBooBoo]

My 750i isn't very accurate. The track often wanders all over the place. I feel that at this price point it should be at least as accurate as the multiband units. Maybe the non Inreach units don't do this?

 

That being said, the giant screen is a work of art when combined with a sweet map like Backroad Mapbooks (Canada). How it works with the auto mount is amazing also.

[capt caper]

13 hours ago, MaliBooBoo said:

My 750i isn't very accurate. The track often wanders all over the place. I feel that at this price point it should be at least as accurate as the multiband units. Maybe the non Inreach units don't do this?

 

That being said, the giant screen is a work of art when combined with a sweet map like Backroad Mapbooks (Canada). How it works with the auto mount is amazing also.

Can't you shut off inreach and try the unit then? My track is very accurate. I have saved tracks since 1998 of hundreds of hikes all around the country. And this 700 has been awesome in tracking and accuracy with the Galieo added.

[natecollins]

I just got the 700i last week but due to work hours and inclement weather I haven't been outdoors with it yet.  It's a beautiful piece of equipment for sure.  I needed the larger screen than my 64st offered due to old eyes!  I'm still familiarizing myself with the software and general function.  I got the "i" version as a safety consideration.

 

I agree with the above poster about the lack of accessories, particularly for carrying the device.  I came across recommendations for this unit by Gizzmovest:  http://www.gizzmovest.com/GizzMoVest_MONTANA_700.cfm It's made in the US and I will probably get this unless I can find something with a good belt or MOLLE solution.

 

I have not had any issues so far with the battery or power button as described above.  I was fortunate to find a deal that The GPS Store where a spare Garmin battery and a lanyard were included with the unit for five dollars over the regular price! They had a similar deal with the 750i and in hindsight I wish I had gotten the 750i to easily log photos of interesting finds and observations.

 

 

[+Atlas Cached]

Make sure you visit GPSrChive for tons of great information and accessories for your new Montana 7x0!

[+HEADLANDERS]

On 9/16/2021 at 7:13 PM, DragonsWest said:

In summary, the Montana 700 works and has a bigger, easier to read screen (especially if you download the larger icon set,) but it still has some of the quirks of its predecessors and you really will need that AA-back, get it.

Can you provide a link to download the larger 'Icon Sets' please?.

[+Atlas Cached]

1 hour ago, HEADLANDERS said:

Can you provide a link to download the larger 'Icon Sets' please?

 

Multiple options are available at: GPSrChive > How To... > Waypoints > Custom Waypoint Symbols > GPSrChive Custom Symbols. 

[+ArnieBarney]

When I first got the Montana 700 I was unable to find a robust carabiner strap so I chain linked three cable ties to connect the carabiner to the gpsr. I usually clip it to a belt loop or on the shoulder strap of my backpack. This thing takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'

[capt caper]

Yea I love this 700.. owned many garmin hand helds since 1998 and this one is so nice.

 

[revrnd]

On 2/6/2022 at 1:33 PM, HEADLANDERS said:

Can you provide a link to download the larger 'Icon Sets' please?.

That was a peeve of my 700 that I just got. Big screen but miniscule icons. I'll look into this.

 

[+GB's]

I'm a long term user of Montana's (600,610,680) and I always had no problem with child waypoints being loaded and visable on the Waypoint Manager App.

But since I aquired my Montana 700i the waypoint are not available in the Waypoint Manager app.

I load caches using GSAK and I have the option set to send all children waypoint to the GPS.

Any suggestions on how to get the Waypoints available to use?

[capt caper]

On 4/18/2024 at 10:10 PM, GB's said:

I'm a long term user of Montana's (600,610,680) and I always had no problem with child waypoints being loaded and visable on the Waypoint Manager App.

But since I aquired my Montana 700i the waypoint are not available in the Waypoint Manager app.

I load caches using GSAK and I have the option set to send all children waypoint to the GPS.

Any suggestions on how to get the Waypoints available to use?

 

assign them a symbol then search for them by symbol? 

[+Atlas Cached]

On 4/18/2024 at 7:10 PM, GB's said:

I'm a long term user of Montana's (600,610,680) and I always had no problem with child waypoints being loaded and visable on the Waypoint Manager App.

But since I aquired my Montana 700i the waypoint are not available in the Waypoint Manager app.

I load caches using GSAK and I have the option set to send all children waypoint to the GPS.

Any suggestions on how to get the Waypoints available to use?

Are you using an export macro? Are you certain GSAK is sending the child waypoints? I use the Garmin export macro without issue on my Montana 700.

 

Edit to add:

 

When loaded properly,  child waypoints are available directly from each Geocache page on the Montana 7x0.

 

See GPSrChive > Montana 7x0 > Main Menu > Geocaching > Child Waypoints for additional details. 

 

And one more thing:

 

If you have child waypoints loaded as normal waypoints,  and 'Hide Waypoints' is enabled in the Geocache Map Tab, they will not appear. 

 

Additional details available at web link above. 

 

 

 

Edited May 21 by Atlas Cached
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[+Styk]

I have been using Garmin products since the near the beginning of geocaching.  last 4 have been the Montana's, 2 600's, a 650 and now a 700.  Can't understand why they killed the shortcuts.  One thing I have noted as I have run the other Montana in parallel with my car units is the 700 is out to lunch on ETA.  Sometimes the routing is a bit wacko also.  I have seen it out by and hour on a hour trip.  I have seen it still estimating arrival time of another 20 minutes as I arrive at my destination my a shorter route then it was indicating all the time telling me to make a turn, LOL.  I recently switched from a lot of ATV off road to on/off road motorcycle riding where a car type GPS isn't suitable.  The gross error in ETA is not acceptable.  Looking int the Tread or the Zumo which has been out a lot longer and used my many motorcyclists.

 

 

[+TOW Vehicle]

I like the Montana 700 so far but it has a lot of features I'll never use.

It was mainly difficult to (learn) program form my old Magellan Explorist 710 and previous older units/.

I find it more friendly now setting up routes since using it learning either by "just figuring it out without the manual" or reading the op manual when I can read it and fiddle with it.

 

I doesn't turn off for no real reason as often as it used to and I find the big screen a real plus for the ole eyes!