vulture1957 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I saw a couple new waymarks posted (that means accepted by The Powers That Be) in Photo Goals. Looking at them, I was kind of pissed that my previous waymark submissions had been declined, yet these had been approved. Well, I saw a new one that had you stand barefoot in the snow. I thought "Ok, how about writing your name in the snow" and submitted it. Not very different than standing in the snow. And here is the declination I got -- "Your waymark, Write your name in a fresh field of snow, has been denied for the following reason: Your waymark was voted on by the category managers, here are comments made about your waymark by them: Initial vote call comment:Maybe it's just me but, meh... Where's the goal? Vote comments: [nay] Maybe it's just me but, meh... Where's the goal? Now, if it was spell it out using your feet and take a drone photo...SURE! " So it seems that there are more than one standard in deciding acceptability in that category. Another one to add to my "BlackList" Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, vulture1957 said: I saw a couple new waymarks posted (that means accepted by The Powers That Be) in Photo Goals. Looking at them, I was kind of pissed that my previous waymark submissions had been declined, yet these had been approved. Well, I saw a new one that had you stand barefoot in the snow. I thought "Ok, how about writing your name in the snow" and submitted it. Not very different than standing in the snow. And here is the declination I got -- "Your waymark, Write your name in a fresh field of snow, has been denied for the following reason: Your waymark was voted on by the category managers, here are comments made about your waymark by them: Initial vote call comment:Maybe it's just me but, meh... Where's the goal? Vote comments: [nay] Maybe it's just me but, meh... Where's the goal? Now, if it was spell it out using your feet and take a drone photo...SURE! " So it seems that there are more than one standard in deciding acceptability in that category. Another one to add to my "BlackList" I had the exact same reaction that you did. Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, Max and 99 said: I had the exact same reaction that you did. my last submission pointed out part of the category description that goes something like "The action should cause onlookers to shake their heads and think 'What's that goof up to'." I accepted that. Then these latest submissions were approved, and once again, mine is declined. "Wear your best suit", a real head shaker. Watch an eclipse, gee stand still! Whee! Make a tower of rocks. Photo with something of female rights (now that is very open to interpretation). Mirror yourself in water - really hard to do. Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 The very first thought that came to mind when I saw all the new photo goals was wondering if the group vote is no longer protocol. Link to comment
+bluesnote Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) I noticed that one of these waymarks was published by an officer, and not sent to a group vote as what is explicitly stated in the category description. Not sure why it was never sent to a vote. After seeing that "stick you feet in snow" got approved, it made me think what could be a fun and accessible photo goal for everyone. It never snows where I live (heck it was 80º F today) so I could never log that waymark (at least without traveling and good timing). One idea that came to mind is to take a selfie wearing a face mask. We all have them, so why not show off our favorite one? But atlas, it got denied. It is hard coming up with good enough ideas that will please the officers. Edited February 23, 2021 by bluesnote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, bluesnote said: I noticed that one of these waymarks was published by an officer, and not sent to a group vote as what is explicitly stated in the category description. Not sure why it was never sent to a vote. After seeing that "stick you feet in snow" got approved, it made me think what could be a fun and accessible photo goal for everyone. It never snows where I live (heck it was 80º F today) so I could never log that waymark (at least without traveling and good timing). You could cheat and do what so many other people do and just show a picture of someone else meeting the goal. ☹️ I'm kidding about doing it but I'm not kidding about how many people think that counts as a visit. Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, bluesnote said: I noticed that one of these waymarks was published by an officer, and not sent to a group vote as what is explicitly stated in the category description. Not sure why it was never sent to a vote. After seeing that "stick you feet in snow" got approved, it made me think what could be a fun and accessible photo goal for everyone. It never snows where I live (heck it was 80º F today) so I could never log that waymark (at least without traveling and good timing). One idea that came to mind is to take a selfie wearing a face mask. We all have them, so why not show off our favorite one? But atlas, it got denied. It is hard coming up with good enough ideas that will please the officers. they accepted "Wear a suit". maybe I should do "Wear your favorite swim suit" or "Make a tower of sticks" Edited February 23, 2021 by vulture1957 Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, bluesnote said: One idea that came to mind is to take a selfie wearing a face mask I've never taken a selfie. Would I be allowed to have someone take one of me? 4 minutes ago, vulture1957 said: I should do "Wear your favorite swim suit" Oh heck no! ? 1 Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Max and 99 said: I've never taken a selfie. Would I be allowed to have someone take one of me? Oh heck no! ? "Wear your favorite sweats"? Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, vulture1957 said: "Wear your favorite sweats"? LOL Better! Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 the answers from category officers is deafening 1 Link to comment
+Alfouine Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I am officer of this category and it was a mistake to approve alone waymarks in this category, but as we used to have few submissions i did not remember about the vote, it's not an excuse just a fact. I understand that is offensive that an idea declined in the past has been approved, the problem of this category is that you have to check all waymarks approved to see if the goal does not exist, it would be really difficult to check also all past activities The problem of the vote is inactivity of a lot of officers and i understand that "wear your favorite sweats" does not improve credibility of our job and of the category... 1 Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 My photo goal waymark almost did not pass group vote. I pointed out to the officer that the photo goal was the same one suggested in the category description! Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, Alfouine said: I am officer of this category and it was a mistake to approve alone waymarks in this category, but as we used to have few submissions i did not remember about the vote, it's not an excuse just a fact. I understand that is offensive that an idea declined in the past has been approved, the problem of this category is that you have to check all waymarks approved to see if the goal does not exist, it would be really difficult to check also all past activities The problem of the vote is inactivity of a lot of officers and i understand that "wear your favorite sweats" does not improve credibility of our job and of the category... so why does "make a tower of rocks", "wear a suit" and "Bare feet in snow" make it as good photo goals?? Crazy fun things?? Dare ya?? But you weenies accepted them! Maybe I should have written my name in the snow in urine. That would have been a Dare Ya. Edited February 23, 2021 by vulture1957 1 Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 Oh, and "Bare Feet in the Snow" makes the cut; "Write something on your frosted car window!" does too. But "Write your name in snow" doesn't. Similar, but not the same. As I said -- different standards. 1 Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 8 hours ago, Alfouine said: the problem of this category is that you have to check all waymarks approved to see if the goal does not exist, it would be really difficult to check also all past activities I can understand that, but it sure would be a good thing to do. How many reviews total are we talking about? 98 approved waymarks, but how many total reviewed? On a side note: I wish the photo goals with live wild animals would not be permitted. Just my opinion. Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 I guess I could use the national news stories -- "Use Gorilla Glue as Hair Spray". Now that is a Dare Ya 1 1 Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Max and 99 said: I can understand that, but it sure would be a good thing to do. How many reviews total are we talking about? 98 approved waymarks, but how many total reviewed? and of those 98, about a third do not make the "crazy, eye rolling/dare ya" criteria. Bare feet in snow, wear a suit; watch an eclipse, tower of pebbles; female empowerment; mirror in water; wear a sport jersey; wear a christmas sweater; be in a toy building competition; hang your feet in an aquarium; write something on your frosted car window; eat pie; imitate a movie actor; show the motion; photo with a mask; hold your collection; write your name in a natural way; take a closer look; picture in a costume; photo with a turkey decoy; performing your job (real Dare ya/Crazy here); odometer 123456; what's your passion; collect hailstones; 100,000 mile odometer; picture in a wild west outfit (jeans and a cowboy hat); imitate Escher; go to a concert; photo in front of a news van; photo with your pet; picture with a VW bus; pumpkin patch; show your colors; street sign with your name. Edited February 23, 2021 by vulture1957 1 Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Just now, vulture1957 said: and of those 98, about a third do not make the "crazy, eye rolling/dare ya" criteria. Bare feet in snow, wear a suit; watch an eclipse, tower of pebbles; female empowerment; mirror in water; wear a sport jersey; wear a christmas sweater; be in a toy building competition; hang your feet in an aquarium; eat pie; imitate a movie actor; show the motion; photo with a mask; hold your collection; write your name in a natural way; take a closer look; picture in a costume; photo with a turkey decoy; performing your job (real Dare ya/Crazy here); odometer 123456; what's your passion; collect hailstones; 100,000 mile odometer; picture in a wild west outfit (jeans and a cowboy hat); imitate Escher; go to a concert; photo in front of a news van; photo with your pet; picture with a VW bus; pumpkin patch; show your colors; street sign with your name. 298 total reviews. And many of them are multiple reviews of the same waymark. Maybe the officers can find a volunteer to make a list of what's been submitted, approved, and declined. Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Max and 99 said: 298 total reviews. And many of them are multiple reviews of the same waymark. Maybe the officers can find a volunteer to make a list of what's been submitted, approved, and declined. we can see what's been approved, and can see that the category requirements have NOT been held to for many of those. Link to comment
+Alfouine Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, vulture1957 said: Maybe I should have written my name in the snow in urine. It would be one of the best goal, we could ask to add it in features waymarks lists 1 Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Alfouine said: It would be one of the best goal, we could ask to add it in features waymarks lists expect this waymark if it snows here again 1 Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I've been reading a lot of the review comments. What a tough category to be an officer in!! Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) I have 2 more ideas. I will be out soon to take pictures. I will submit them both together. If they pass, I'm done. If they fail -- I'm DONE. (although, I still think I ought to do "Wear your favorite sweat suit" just to see how they explain that as not acceptable after "Wear your best suit" passed.) Edited February 23, 2021 by vulture1957 1 Link to comment
+Alfouine Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 40 minutes ago, Max and 99 said: I've been reading a lot of the review comments. What a tough category to be an officer in!! Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted February 24, 2021 Author Share Posted February 24, 2021 I'm still waiting on an answer to my question -- Why does a pile of rocks and writing on your windshield make the grade for a photo goal, but my write your name in the snow didn't? Come on, there must be officers from that category (besides Alfouine) that can answer this. Come on, you goobers that voted against it. Fess up. 1 Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) still hearing crickets from the category managers on this. Seems like more people "playing the game by their own rules, screw you all". and I'm surprised that @lumbricius puts up with this in a category he is working Edited February 28, 2021 by vulture1957 Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share Posted March 6, 2021 and I'm still waiting .... and waiting ... and waiting. I guess the category officers just don't give a crap that we can see that they don't use the same criteria for submissions from different waymarkers. Maybe they are getting money from folks to publish?? 1 Link to comment
+sernikk Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, vulture1957 said: Maybe they are getting money from folks to publish?? I feel that you start taking this too serious. 1 Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted March 6, 2021 Author Share Posted March 6, 2021 let me call out the officers by name: @lumbricus@The Blue Quasar @sundevil1994 @model12 and @Alfouine , who has already posted something Link to comment
+Alfouine Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 What do you mean by 2 hours ago, vulture1957 said: Who has already posted something What do you mean ? Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, Alfouine said: What do you mean by What do you mean ? It means you have already responded as an officer in the category. Link to comment
+Alfouine Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Leader resigned his position of leader and quit the group 1 Link to comment
+lumbricus Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Friends, at the moment I'm very busy at work, even at Saturday and Sunday, so I quit and gave the leader position back to the founder. Maybe I'll come back in the future. Link to comment
+T0SHEA Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 14 hours ago, lumbricus said: Friends, at the moment I'm very busy at work, even at Saturday and Sunday Is wayfrog busy also? 1 1 Link to comment
+ScroogieII Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 3 hours ago, T0SHEA said: Is wayfrog busy also? 1 Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted March 8, 2021 Author Share Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) OK, well never mind. Like I said before, this is on my Black List. I don't need the icon, for all the trouble it's taking. They can keep their silly category as they see fit. Please close this discussion. Edited March 8, 2021 by vulture1957 1 Link to comment
wayfrog Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 12 hours ago, vulture1957 said: ...Please close this discussion. Closed. Link to comment
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