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I tried GC7T963, GC3AK1K and GCV8XG. None show images in Firefox 81.0. However, right-click  > view image info shows the image. Except for one they seem to be hosted on 3rd part sites.

 

 

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1 hour ago, geoleena said:

 

I don't see the images in Chrome either. For example for GCV8XG I get the following error messages when loading the page:

Mixed Content: The page at 'https://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GCV8XG_start-hill-sums?guid=56879049-63ad-43c2-ab50-4fdc9db7dc35' was loaded over HTTPS, but requested an insecure element 'http://img.Groundspeak.com/cache/d8e9e836-0798-4c26-b7d7-708560ee0ac0.jpg'. This request was automatically upgraded to HTTPS, For more information see https://blog.chromium.org/2019/10/no-more-mixed-messages-about-https.html

Failed to load resource: net::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID

 

So the issue seems to be the mixed content. Additionally the img.Groundspeak.com server seems not to support https. This is something Groundspeak could fix ;)

 

What I previously did not realize, is that the browser automatically upgrades the request to https so simply changing http->https does not really change anything. I think that using the resolved address for the image could help here. Ie.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/gs-geo-images/d8e9e836-0798-4c26-b7d7-708560ee0ac0.jpg

 

Unfortunately this does not help with the images you have on other external servers because they also don't support https. Maybe you could approach the provider of those services to ask if they could turn on https support?

Eureka 
First person on this forum to not see my images , thanks you, I'm not going mad LOL

Thanks for all that info  ..... will do some more research ...
John


 

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1 hour ago, geoleena said:

Failed to load resource: net::ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID

 

So the issue seems to be the mixed content. Additionally the img.Groundspeak.com server seems not to support https. This is something Groundspeak could fix ;)

 

img.Groundspeak.com DOES support HTTPS - but is using a geocaching.com certificate.
Just change the URL from http://img.Groundspeak.com/.. to https://img.geocaching.com/...

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1 hour ago, on4bam said:

I tried GC7T963, GC3AK1K and GCV8XG. None show images in Firefox 81.0. However, right-click  > view image info shows the image. Except for one they seem to be hosted on 3rd part sites.

 

 

Thanks for testing them.
Yes they are historic caches published before 15th Sept ruling, about 200 of them.
John

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11 minutes ago, RCH65 said:

 

img.Groundspeak.com DOES support HTTPS - but is using a geocaching.com certificate.
Just change the URL from http://img.Groundspeak.com/.. to https://img.geocaching.com/...

 

Aha, yes it is a certificate issue. Likewise it could be fixed also by Groundspeak, I think.

 

The 3rd party sites give the same error so again it is probably somehow invalid or incorrect certificate.

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2 minutes ago, geoleena said:

Aha, yes it is a certificate issue. Likewise it could be fixed also by Groundspeak, I think.

 

Yes. Definitely an incorrect configuration. 

 

2 minutes ago, geoleena said:

The 3rd party sites give the same error so again it is probably somehow invalid or incorrect certificate.

 

Some of them just do not have HTTPS (geotrowel.me.uk in GC3AK1K). Others do have HTTPS but no own certificate (mattsphotobooks.com in GC7T963 is using the certificate of its hoster wpxhosting.com). There shouldn't be unsecured HTTP connections in 2020 and it's probably a good idea to move this stuff to the geocaching.com servers.

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1 hour ago, RCH65 said:

 

Yes. Definitely an incorrect configuration. 

 

 

Some of them just do not have HTTPS (geotrowel.me.uk in GC3AK1K). Others do have HTTPS but no own certificate (mattsphotobooks.com in GC7T963 is using the certificate of its hoster wpxhosting.com). There shouldn't be unsecured HTTP connections in 2020 and it's probably a good idea to move this stuff to the geocaching.com servers.

I fully appreciate that from 15th Sept we should use an authorised host, my lastest cache uses Dropbox which is fine.


However I have been putting out puzzle caches for 3 years now and I don't want to move all the images of nearly 200 puzzle caches.

 

The  15th Sept post clearly says :-
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This change will only apply to new cache and trackable pages. You can continue editing existing cache and trackable pages as before, even if they contain images that are hosted on third-party servers.

So what have GC done to ruin all  my historic caches ?
John
 

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So I use .png images to illustrate geological concepts on my EarthCaches. I currently host them on Imgur. If I understand it those will stay. But for the future do I have to make scientific drawings in jpg? How is that supposed to look good? To get a half good quality I had to use 100% quality when saving as jpg, and I'm still not happy with this. Plus there's a black background now where there used to be a transparent one. Added to that I'm sure there will be a time where GS changes the background colour of the cache description, or people use other colours themselves for accessibility reasons. This will look very, very messy.

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Sorted thanks to a very clever caching friend I have .....

The third party web server did not have SSL enabled.

I enabled it and all my images have returned.

 

Thanks for all the help from forum members.

Happy bunny

John

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3 hours ago, StratOman said:

I enabled it and all my images have returned.

 

Not here. The images still point to http://---   you still need to change the links to https://

 

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19 hours ago, terratin said:

So I use .png images to illustrate geological concepts on my EarthCaches. I currently host them on Imgur. If I understand it those will stay. But for the future do I have to make scientific drawings in jpg?

 

As far as I understand, you still may use PNG images - but not from Imgur (not allowed) and not from img.geocaching.com (automatic JPEG conversion).
According to https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=97&pgid=956 you may use Dropbox or  Google Drive to host your PNG image.

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12 hours ago, on4bam said:

 

Not here. The images still point to http://---   you still need to change the links to https://

 

That's odd, all my caching friends in UK say the images are back ?

I really don't want to edit 200 + caches if possible.


All my caches post 15th are using dropbox and //https ;-)

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3 hours ago, RCH65 said:

 

As far as I understand, you still may use PNG images - but not from Imgur (not allowed) and not from img.geocaching.com (automatic JPEG conversion).
According to https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=97&pgid=956 you may use Dropbox or  Google Drive to host your PNG image.

 

Ok. Phew. I would honestly not be happy to use google drive as we all know how much Google cares about data privacy and tracking us. I honestly don't understand how google can be an approved hoster when image hosting on gc changes due to privacy reasons, really. Never looked into dropbox.

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On 9/25/2020 at 6:11 PM, LE PERE NOEL said:

Hi,

What about the flag counter ?

 

Tried to use the flag counter on an unpublished cahce,

but it keep showing "Remove all images hosted on a third-party website to save changes."
Not able to save the cache page until I remove the flag counter. :(

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On 9/16/2020 at 3:14 PM, barefootjeff said:

I see images.squarespace-cdn.com isn't on the list of approved hosts. This is where you are hosting the Adventure Lab logos, so does this mean we can no longer use those logos on AL bonus cache listings?

I took a screen capture of one of the logos at squarespace and uploaded it to my bonus cache page from my PC.  Now resides at geocaching.com.  No need to use a url to another site.

 

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