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Oregon 700 or Montana 800?

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The power button on my Oregon 600 just died, so I'm in the market for a new GPSr.  I've narrowed it down to the Oregon 700 or the Montana 800.  Reaching out to the community for thoughts and recommendations.  Pretty sure I want to stick with Garmin.

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if you liked the Oregon 6x0, the Oregon 7x0 is a worthy successor with many additional features, a mature firmware, and can be found for very reasonable prices. The Montana 7x0 will be two to three times the price of a new Oregon 700.

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You basically have no choice but to stick with Garmin. Within the US, there aren't really any other options, certainly none with viable support and a community user base.

Can you get away with using a cell phone for a few months? It's possible that Garmin might announce/release a new Oregon either in time for the holiday season or just after at CES. Given the price drops of the Oregon 700, I wouldn't be surprised to see that in the near future.

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It's got many years. Heck, he could find another Oregon 600 and be just fine. Maybe better since it's a completely offline device and won't need to be updated when API login protocols change.

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I wouldn't be worried about functionality issues with the Oregon 7x0. Garmin just updated several 14 year old eTrex models earlier this year to keep them operating properly. And, the Oregon 7x0 is still 'in production', which means it can be found new from most retailers, and is still serviced by Garmin. Can not say that about the Oregon 6x0.

 

 

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Thanks everyone.  I was wondering if a new Oregon might be in the works.  Actually looked more closely at the Montana 700 (not 800, my mistake), and realized it's huge!  So now I'll either order the Oregon 700 or wait a few months hoping for something new.

 

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Might not need to wait for a holiday.  Costco shows a price of $189 (plus tax, free shipping) for the Oregon 700.  If you have a membership, I don't think you'll see a new one any cheaper than that.

 

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Wow, that is an amazing price for an incredible GPSr. If I didn't already have two of them, I might get another!

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Yeah, once in a while, Costco comes up with a real dilly.  I ordered one from Costco for my grandson for Christmas.  Just checked - price still valid for now on the 700.

 

This last Spring, Costco ran a special on a 12 zone Rachio 3rd Gen sprinkler controller, WiFi enabled with an app and more features than I can use, for a bunch less than any price I'd ever seen for it.  And darned if the company isn't right down in Denver.

 

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Costco always seems to have the previous generation of GoPro packaged with some gear for a good price. I kinda wonder if Costco buys up stock in items that the manufacturer is trying to get rid of to make room for the next model.

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Of interest -- even though ordered through Costco, the Oregon 700 is shipping from ... wait for it ... Lenexa, KS, just up the road from Olathe, KS, Garmin HQ.

 

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I would suspect Costco has worked out a special price from Garmin without actually purchasing any hardware, and Garmin are 'drop shipping' each order as received via Costco online. The Oregon 7x0 is an online only purchase, not available in store.

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Yes, the short trip between Olathe and Lenexa/distribution indicates the drop ship arrangement.  That was what was so interesting about the origin of the shipment...

because then I wonder whether Costco is just making an extremely skinny margin, or whether Garmin is looking to move a great number of these for some reason at lower margins for themselves.

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On 9/16/2020 at 12:30 AM, marshajean said:

Actually looked more closely at the Montana 700 (not 800, my mistake), and realized it's huge! 

I was going to add this. I do prefer the smaller form of the Oregon, but typing on the screen was a total pain, the Montana is much better, and screen size I suspect has something to do with it....

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@lee737

I've been using the closed tip of my geo-pens to do the typing (one reason I still prefer a resistive screen on my handhelds) for so long that I don't even give consideration to the finger size vs. button size. 

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Typing on an Oregon is still preferable to typing on a gpsMAP or eTrex. (nightmares of scrolling through the alphabet to find each letter one at a time)

So many vendors give out pens with stylus tips that I just collect them for geocaching.

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2 hours ago, lee737 said:

 I do prefer the smaller form of the Oregon, but typing on the screen was a total pain, the Montana is much better, and screen size I suspect has something to do with it....

 

The large display found on the Montana 7x0 also allows for a full QWERTY keyboard regardless of orientation, and the Montana 7x0 keyboard includes many additional features not available on previous units (such as emojis and auto-suggest, etc.)

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Sure, but the Montana 700 series is also freaking huge. It's not really a good hiking gps. 

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I DO NOT like my Oregon 700.  I had an Etrex Legend HCx and LOVED it.  It crapped out, so I went with an Oregon.  The documentation is terrible, and it is anything but intuitive.  I'm trying to add geocaches using GSAK, and it isn't recognizing the unit.    I've been caching since 2007, and may just use this unit as an expensive paperweight.   BTW, I have never used the compass to find a cache, I use the coords and the map.   Thanks for letting me vent.

 

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7 hours ago, zoothornrollo said:

I DO NOT like my Oregon 700.  I had an Etrex Legend HCx and LOVED it.  It crapped out, so I went with an Oregon.  The documentation is terrible, and it is anything but intuitive.  I'm trying to add geocaches using GSAK, and it isn't recognizing the unit.    I've been caching since 2007, and may just use this unit as an expensive paperweight.   BTW, I have never used the compass to find a cache, I use the coords and the map.   Thanks for letting me vent.

 

 

You upgraded to a whole new class of GPS, so there's bound to be a learning curve.  I traded up from a 650 to 750, and even just moving up one model number, it's about twice as complicated as the 650.  It's super flexible, you can move icons around, change screen displays, even change the way the whole system works by using Classic Mode or Activity Mode.    And of course you can load thousands of caches over wifi without having to connect to USB.  But figuring out where to begin, that could be quite challenging.  I've already switched back and forth between Classic and Activity Mode, in an attempt to set it up where it's as simple to use as possible in the field, where the menus make the most sense to me.  I've gotten mine pretty much OK for Geocaching, although I still sometimes get lost in the thing. :cute:

 

I mainly switch between the list of caches, maps, and the compass while caching, with a profile for hiking and another for street routing.  One huge "Distance" reading can be set up at the top of most any screen, and that's pretty cool.  But I usually have the four field dashboard, so that it shows me exactly which waypoint (or cache or lat/lon) is selected, plus distance.  Otherwise I tend to be heading to the wrong waypoint. :cute:

 

There are basic videos out there, some pretty helpful as a start.  I've sometimes thought of making a video on how to set everything up just right for Geocaching.  Maybe someday I will, just to give people ideas on what they may try.  But you can set it up in so many ways... and you already mentioned you don't even use a compass screen... such a video would be quite an undertaking.

 

 

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8 hours ago, zoothornrollo said:

I DO NOT like my Oregon 700.  I had an Etrex Legend HCx and LOVED it.  It crapped out, so I went with an Oregon.  The documentation is terrible, and it is anything but intuitive.  I'm trying to add geocaches using GSAK, and it isn't recognizing the unit.    I've been caching since 2007, and may just use this unit as an expensive paperweight.   BTW, I have never used the compass to find a cache, I use the coords and the map.   Thanks for letting me vent.

 

I have also been loading caches to a 700 from GSAK - no issues. 

 

I suspect - only suspect - that you haven't yet properly advised GSAK of your new device.  The method for sending caches from ANY application has changed radically since the Legend/Vista days.  Be sure you have selected GPS / Setup / GPS Model / Oregon 750.  That will create the proper compatibility between the file types that GSAK can send to your 700 and the way it sends them.  It's a setup feature that many of us almost never use since it need not be tweaked until we buy a new model or generation of GPSr. 

 

But let's be sure.  Does your PC see the 700 when it's connected via USB???  Should look about like a thumb drive or any other external storage device.  Without that, nothing can send anything to the 700!

 

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