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Adventure Lab - How many more should there be?

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The Adventure Labs have sprung up like mushrooms in the last weeks,  not only in my homezone. I myself have already published a round with five stages and already received a "credit" for another five. I don't know if the saturation limit is slowly being reached, what do you think?

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2 minutes ago, pipatah said:

The Adventure Labs have sprung up like mushrooms in the last weeks,  not only in my homezone. I myself have already published a round with five stages and already received a "credit" for another five. I don't know if the saturation limit is slowly being reached, what do you think?

It is quickly being reached in certain areas. 

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39 minutes ago, pipatah said:

The Adventure Labs have sprung up like mushrooms in the last weeks,  not only in my homezone. I myself have already published a round with five stages and already received a "credit" for another five. I don't know if the saturation limit is slowly being reached, what do you think?

I know your home area, it's the same as mine ;) .

Yes, I think there is some kind of saturation being reached. The app is beginning to be unusable, because it's increasingly hard for me to find new adventures among the heap of completed ones. A feature to hide completed (or ignored!) ALs is really missing! Also, the vast majority of ALs don't look overly creative to me. It mostly feels like an ordinary multi with 5 virtual stages and a final cache. The only differences are the awkward app with all its drawbacks compared to regular caching apps or GPSRs, and 6 "points" vs. a single one (which I definitely don't regard as a benefit).

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As a kind of 'test', I posted neutrally about the AL power trail, and so far unanimously the response has been wows and yays and praise.

It's much easier to be positive than negative, but if loudest and most quantitative voices of the general geocaching community are in excitement, it's probably going to take a very big "problem" to change the pace of things...  Hopefully a threshold will be reached sooner rather than later and there may be some re-evaluation of how the Adventure Lab segment of gc.com progresses.

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In my area there are currently 238 lab caches and a bunch more to come sadly and 21 740 regular caches.

 

They are currently the 5th most popular type of caches here but I predict they will be number 3 before the end of the year.

 

18 months ago when they released the app they were special to find but not anymore. 

 

Like I said in the other topic :

 

Groundspeak please Stop releasing new lab caches and correct the numerous issues they currently have.

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In my metro, of about 1.3 million people, there are 4 ALs.

70,000 mi^2 for my state, with about a dozen ALs.

We are so far from saturation. Nothing like the area maps some of you have posted! 

 

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My region (New South Wales Central Coast, Australia) currently has 2 ALs and 539 regular caches in an area of 1680 square kilometres, so nowhere near saturation for either type.

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14 hours ago, thebruce0 said:

As a kind of 'test', I posted neutrally about the AL power trail, and so far unanimously the response has been wows and yays and praise.

What else do you expect when you talk about a new PT, be it made of ALs or real caches? The numbers crowd falls all over itself from excitement.

Quite a while ago, in a German FB group someone mentioned there is a new Mega-PT in southern France - more than 5000 caches (which is absolutely huge for Europe). A lot of people liked that, and many were like "We MUST do this ASAP!!!!!".

 

So, of course you get "wows and yays" for an AL-PT(*). I'm still not convinced that it's a good idea, though ;) .

 

(*) I just noticed that "ALPT" are the first four letters of the German word "Alptraum", an alternate spelling (less common but valid) of "Albtraum", which means "nightmare" :D!

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9 minutes ago, baer2006 said:

Quite a while ago, in a German FB group someone mentioned there is a new Mega-PT in southern France - more than 5000 caches (which is absolutely huge for Europe). A lot of people liked that, and many were like "We MUST do this ASAP!!!!!".

Likely many are the same cachers who like to log printed lists of trackables.

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5 hours ago, baer2006 said:

So, of course you get "wows and yays" for an AL-PT(*). I'm still not convinced that it's a good idea, though ;) .

Nor I.

But there wasn't one response even hinting at the downside of over-saturation, or calling out 'for the numbers' geocachers, etc. As I said though, most everything on social media is going to be almost universally negative (easier to criticize an error than praise consistency), or overwhelming positive (join in the excitement, and who wants to be a downer?)

In this case, it's certainly overwhelmingly positive - and the danger of that is that the reasonable criticisms can get drowned out. So hopefully HQ isn't just setting aside concerns raised by many here just because feedback is overwhelmingly positive out in the mass social digital world :)

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This morning I received an email from HQ awarding me an AL credit. In the email it said:

 

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  • If you complete your Adventure early (by October 31, 2020), you have the chance to be selected to create a second Adventure. Geocaching HQ will randomly select at least 300 creators (with geographic distribution) to receive a second Adventure Lab credit.

 

So it looks like there'll be at least 300 more offered after the end of October. I'm not sure how effective the geographic distribution will be, though, as there's no limit on how far from home you can create one.

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There’s not a single one in my hometown, and many of the neighbouring municipalities have either 0 or 1.

 

But to you who live in ”saturated” areas, if your main hobby was ”adventure labbing” how long would it take to run out of stuff to do in your area? 

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I think that saturation of adventure labs depends on your location.  The closest one to me is 66 miles away.

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27 minutes ago, medicrrt said:

I think that saturation of adventure labs depends on your location.  The closest one to me is 66 miles away.

I have 24 adventures under 66 miles and half of them under 10 miles. Living in the biggest town of Atlantic Canada doesn't help but lab cache owner here try to spread them but that doesn't always seem to be the case with screenshot posted elsewhere in the world with 50 adventures in the same area...

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