+Max and 99 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, PlantStrong said: My bad. The code I found, while valid, is not/not actually sent from Mars. It was posted ahead of the landing. I did not realize this until now. Please pardon me for writing in haste. I can understand that confusion! An honest mistake. 2 Quote Link to comment
+thebruce0 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 hours ago, on4bam said: Quote Tracking code This code is on the trackable item. It is meant to be seen only by people who have the trackable in their hands. That's never going to happen. Except we all know that it's not a requirement as people can share codes or use them on things that are not literally "held in their hands". So if you choose to live by that ethic, then great But ain't nothing wrong with 'discovering' a travelbug's tracking code as it was intended to be discovered. Now, picking up and moving a (traditional) travelbug by its tracking code, that's a different story I hope HQ has placed the perseverance TB into its owner's collection so no one will "mistakenly" grab it from Mars 1 1 Quote Link to comment
+Sivota Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 In their hands? Not really, f.e. there are trackables on cars too... You can not "hold" trackables on cars "in hand", can you? Or do I understand this the wrong way... 1 Quote Link to comment
+cerberus1 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, thebruce0 said: Except we all know that it's not a requirement as people can share codes or use them on things that are not literally "held in their hands". Right in the Help Center it does say, "Logging trackables that you have not personally seen is strongly discouraged. It is up to the trackable owner to state if they allow this." I'd say in this promotion, that's been given. Edited February 22, 2021 by cerberus1 Quote Link to comment
+thebruce0 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, on4bam said: But you see the car, not a photograph of it. You are at the same location the car trackable is. But that's not what you implied by your quote: 5 hours ago, on4bam said: Quote This code is on the trackable item. It is meant to be seen only by people who have the trackable in their hands. That's never going to happen. 9 minutes ago, on4bam said: Fair enough, but it's these kind of "exceptions" that makes people create their own rules. It's not an "exception", it's the accepted nature and function of travelbugs, and has been for many years. No one can "make their own rules". It's either allowed or not. People may or may not like certain ethics, but that's different. 10 minutes ago, on4bam said: In THIS case it's OK to log it (but I won't) but there are enough examples in these forums where people complain their trackables were logged because someone saw a picture of it with the code visible or worse, saw the code on a list. Absolutely, because that was not the intended manner of discovery. If someone shares it publicly, discovering is okay from around the world. If someone drives it around the city, it's okay to discover it by spotting it on the road or in a lot. If someone launches it to space and the code is revealed in a single photo to be discovered, it's okay. So, if you choose not to log it, that's OK too But the Perseverance TB is nothing anywhere near like a personal TB code shared without consent to a private FB group that masses of people will log. The latter itself isn't reason not to log Perseverance on principle. Quote Link to comment
philthriller Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Celebrate with the official Geocaching Perseverance Merchandise! https://shop.geocaching.com/default/new-items/mars-mission-perseverance-rover 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment
+simon_cornelus Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 While awaiting the Perseverance TB: Perseverance Rover's Descent and Touchdown on Mars: Onboard Camera Views For the puzzle enthusiasts: I released a mystery cache Mars 2020 just before the landing of Perseverance. Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) Just noticed an image of the calibration Target on the NASA website. I bet it won't be long now so we can see the TB code. Oops. Wrong calibration Target. Sorry. We've waited six months for this, Perseverance, I don't mind waiting a little bit longer. Edited February 23, 2021 by Max and 99 Quote Link to comment
+MissJenn Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 Depot Caching Strategy: https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/timeline/surface-operations/ Do you have a caching strategy? 4 1 Quote Link to comment
+RedDerek Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 It was great watching the landing. Even better when they released videos on Monday. First time a landing on another planet was videoed. They even had some audio of a wind gust. 1 Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, RedDerek said: It was great watching the landing. Even better when they released videos on Monday. First time a landing on another planet was videoed. They even had some audio of a wind gust. I think back when I was a kid watching a launch at Cape Canaveral, never imagining I'd see a video and audio on Mars! Like someone else mentioned I get goosebumps every time I see it. And those raw images! Quote Link to comment
+simonswalker Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I found the code, it takes me to the page, but it's still locked. When will it be opened? 1 Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 24 minutes ago, Max and 99 said: The tracking code is on the WATSON camera’s calibration target. A few days after Perseverance lands on Mars, the camera will take a picture of the tracking code itself and send that picture back to Earth. You can log the Rover by finding the code in that picture. Just now, simonswalker said: I found the code, it takes me to the page, but it's still locked. When will it be opened? When the camera sends the TB code from Mars to Earth. Soon! Yes, the image is available online, but the intent is to see it from the camera on Perseverance. Quote Link to comment
+thebruce0 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, RedDerek said: It was great watching the landing. Even better when they released videos on Monday. First time a landing on another planet was videoed. Nice! I totally missed that video! Here's the compilation for anyone who hasn't see it: https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/videos/?v=461 1 Quote Link to comment
+SixPoppesGhosts Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 In the meantime, the rover has sent over 23,000 photos to Earth (according to NASA report from February 22, 2021). Where is the photo of the calibration plate with the TB tracking code? 1 Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, SixPoppesGhosts said: In the meantime, the rover has sent over 23,000 photos to Earth (according to NASA report from February 22, 2021). Where is the photo of the calibration plate with the TB tracking code? It's coming. Soon. Quote Link to comment
Pixelstelar Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Last countdown 1 Quote Link to comment
+M&MP Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 We are really enjoying this Mars mission! Having personally watched the moon landing, and watching the space program ebb and flow, I really hope this mission gives NASA the boost it truly deserves! Quote Link to comment
+camapopy Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I consider thé Mars TB as a virtual TB. Il is a valuable one and a great idea 1 Quote Link to comment
+thebruce0 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 It's not just photos from the Mars rover. There are multiple instruments and devices and cameras on board. It's a matter of when NASA gets around to SHERLOC and calibrating WATSON. When that happens, even if 100,000 other photos have been sent back (quite often thumbnails and random clicks and tests, heh), we'll get our specific calibration image Quote Link to comment
+Popcorn* Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) there is a pix of a calibration target, but it must be the wrong target i guess. you cant see anything clearly Edited February 23, 2021 by Popcorn* 1 1 Quote Link to comment
LaPenotiere Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Did I miss the Code or are we still waiting? 1 Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, thebruce0 said: It's not just photos from the Mars rover. There are multiple instruments and devices and cameras on board. It's a matter of when NASA gets around to SHERLOC and calibrating WATSON. When that happens, even if 100,000 other photos have been sent back (quite often thumbnails and random clicks and tests, heh), we'll get our specific calibration image I'm more interested in the Mastcam-Z camera. I really don't have any interest in adding a souvenir image to my profile for something that to me, doesn't seem to have anything to do with geocaching (other than the word cache is used in a different context). However, my interest in the Masthead-Z, Perseverance (as well as Spirit and Opportunity) comes from the fact that current and former employees where I work were significantly involved. Edited February 23, 2021 by NYPaddleCacher 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment
+thebruce0 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Sure. Apart from the travelbug that's on Mars, there's not much else at all related to geocaching. And there are plenty of communities watching the science and event. So if you've no interest in the TB, that's fine. Our interest here is SHERLOC and WATSON with the calibration target. And the intent that Percy will be "caching" samples on Mars to be recovered and returned to earth on a future mission. Plus the Earthcache connection highlighting locations with similar geology on Earth and Mars (but that's more a branding technicality since Earthcaches are a type of listing, not technically geocache containers). 1 Quote Link to comment
+Mausebiber Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Why are many so impatient? What is the difference whether you log the TB today or in 4 weeks? 3 Quote Link to comment
+geo.eve Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Wo findet man das Foto mit dem code ? 1 Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 24 minutes ago, geo.eve said: Wo findet man das Foto mit dem code ? It has not arrived yet from Mars. https://mars.nasa.gov/mars2020/multimedia/raw-images/ Quote Link to comment
+Sivota Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 The photo has yet to be taken by the Mars Rover. Only after that happens and the code can been seen on that photo everyone can log the TB... 1 Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, runninbear1 said: While you are waiting for the tb code, check this out. I can't hardly believe somebody solved this yesterday. I could use their help on some puzzles. Some of us are still trying to solve it so don't post a spoiler! 1 Quote Link to comment
+magkirk Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Congratulations, Perseverance Team on a successful landing! Thanks for letting us geocachers share in your accomplishment. I wonder if you will find evidence of life on Mars. 1 Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 minute ago, runninbear1 said: This is not the tb code, but a different message that was hidden on the chute. There are many interesting hidden things associated with the space mission. I know what it is and some of us are still trying to solve it. Quote Link to comment
LeataCharity Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Where will be able to find the photo? Love the idea of a TB on mars. 1 Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, LeataCharity said: Where will be able to find the photo? Love the idea of a TB on mars. Since this is answered several times in this thread can you please just read back a little bit? 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment
LeataCharity Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Thanks for the help Max and 99. Quote Link to comment
+Seadog6608 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 This has got to be the coolest thing I have ever heard of. I wonder, will my profile map show a new planet other than Earth? 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment
+ambegador Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 19 hours ago, SixPoppesGhosts said: In the meantime, the rover has sent over 23,000 photos to Earth (according to NASA report from February 22, 2021). Where is the photo of the calibration plate with the TB tracking code? Where do you see 23,000 photos sent back. The Raw Images page (Images from the Mars Perseverance Rover - NASA Mars) reports only 4,928 images as of 23:45 hours CT 02/23/2021. 1 Quote Link to comment
+cabbe Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Max and 99 said: I know what it is and some of us are still trying to solve it. The code can already be seen on a photo on the network. 2 Quote Link to comment
+bluemoon59 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 How fascinating, a trackable on the Mars Perseviance Rover!!! I think first the Sherloc Watson Camera has to be activated to take a photo of the Sherloc Calibration Target. A really exciting time we are living in ... Marcus (aka bluemoon59) 1 Quote Link to comment
+BloemkDi Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Actually, quite boring .... 1 Quote Link to comment
+Erikdena Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Le 28/07/2020 à 23:36, Foolie a déclaré: When will TB5EFXK be unlocked, so it can be discovered? J’ai trouvé le code, mais malheureusement la liste est verrouillée 1 1 Quote Link to comment
+runninbear1 Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 7 hours ago, cabbe said: The code can already be seen on a photo on the network. This was not the tb code that we were discussing, but a different message and coordinates that were encoded on the parachute. There are many interesting hidden things associated with the space mission. Quote Link to comment
+cabbe Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 23 minutes ago, runninbear1 said: This was not the tb code that we were discussing, but a different message and coordinates that were encoded on the parachute. There are many interesting hidden things associated with the space mission. ok... Quote Link to comment
+longtomsilver Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 Hey all, I don`t know if you know about the very helpful new blog post about the new souvenir and other very helpful informations. https://www.geocaching.com/blog/2021/02/a-new-souvenir-has-just-landed/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment
+longtomsilver Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Erikdena said: J’ai trouvé le code, mais malheureusement la liste est verrouillée Just be patient !! The code will be reveiled and free to discover logs when the LIVE PICTURE will be send and arrived at the NASA station on earth and reveiled in the pictures on the NASA page, where all the live pictures are presented every day. Quote Link to comment
+jamadad Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 Just read this on the link provided by longtomsilver, "Note: It may take several weeks for the photo to be taken and sent back to Earth." Thought it was supposed to be only a few days, but we all might have a significant wait ahead of us. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
+Cryptid Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 On 2/22/2021 at 9:40 AM, on4bam said: But you see the car, not a photograph of it. You are at the same location the car trackable is. Fair enough, but it's these kind of "exceptions" that makes people create their own rules. In THIS case it's OK to log it (but I won't) but there are enough examples in these forums where people complain their trackables were logged because someone saw a picture of it with the code visible or worse, saw the code on a list. With 99% of my trackables gone missing, stolen or getting lost, I made several of my favorites discoverable if people just look at the page. Sadly, with the advent of the smart app many more flash in the pan geocachers find trackables, pick them up, log them and never geocache again. So it is up to the owner or creator of the TB to decide how it’s logged. Quote Link to comment
+alain4s Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 15 hours ago, jamadad said: Just read this on the link provided by longtomsilver, "Note: It may take several weeks for the photo to be taken and sent back to Earth." Thought it was supposed to be only a few days, but we all might have a significant wait ahead of us. Exactly. Sheloc (Scanning Habitable Environments with Raman & Luminescence for Organics & Chemicals) will be deployed and used when the rover will reach some interesting samples to scan for signs of bygone life. I doubt it will be soon. The rover needs to be fully charged and tested, the big antenna deployed, the high bandwidth link established, a list of nearby regions of interest prioritized, the most effective route planned, the rover moved to the first sample, etc. Remember that the top speed of the rover is 152 meters per hour. The previous rover, Mars Curiosity, landed on Mars August 5, 2012. It's test first drive was, on Aug. 22, 2012, almost 3 weeks later, going forward about 4.5 meters. I am not sure but I think it took more than a month to reach the first region of interest. 1 2 Quote Link to comment
+CAPTAINVALPO96 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 When is this code going to come out?!? 1 Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, CAPTAINVALPO96 said: When is this code going to come out?!? When Sherloc sends it back to Earth. The latest blog post said it might be weeks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
+cerberus1 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Max and 99 said: When Sherloc sends it back to Earth. The latest blog post said it might be weeks. Yep. Funny, this was started over six months ago with mention of what's going to happen, and now folks are in a hurry. 2 Quote Link to comment
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