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I thought it might be a good idea to start a thread where we can all post our ideas for future developments in Adventures and lab Caches.

 

If we have just one idea per post, those who agree with the idea can like the post, that way we get an indication of how popular the ideas are.  Maybe TPTB will then consider the most popular ones for future developments.

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Make lab caches mainstream

 

In other words, take them out of "experimental" and include them in stats, PQ's and the API, just like any other cache type.

 

This would need the ability to retrospectively add things like D/T, attributes etc to the lab caches

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Include adventures in the notification system

 

So we can be informed when new ones appear.

 

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Give Adventure CO's all the features of ordinary caches

 

Notify when adventures (and stages) are found, DNFed etc.  Let us delete obviously fake logs.  All the things that CO's can do for other cache types.

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Provide a link to download a GPX or LOC for each Adventure.

 

I seldom look for Adventures solely by themselves.  Many Adventure stages are near other caches and I would like to able to use just one device (an actual GPSr) to navigate between stages, which may involve grabbing "normal" caches while enroute.  I have no problem using the AL app for logging---just want to use my GPSr for the actual navigation, especially when AL stages are considerably far apart and "normal" caches just happen to be along the way.  A GPX or LOC of all stage coordinates would really enhance the experience.

 

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I would prefer that those who are adding 'bonus caches' NOT use QR code links to their adventure on their bonus cache page.  Most of us don't carry two phones in the field.

A simple link from the bonus cache to the adventure on the bonus cache page would be a lot more helpful.

 

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4 hours ago, ecanderson said:

I would prefer that those who are adding 'bonus caches' NOT use QR code links to their adventure on their bonus cache page.  Most of us don't carry two phones in the field.

A simple link from the bonus cache to the adventure on the bonus cache page would be a lot more helpful.

I know not all, but some people (including us) make it so that if you click on the qr code, it sends you to the adventure lab cache page.

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That would be nice, providing it was made clear that the QR was clickable.  Intuitively, one would not expect that. 

 

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On 4/25/2020 at 2:51 AM, Gill & Tony said:

Let us delete obviously fake logs.

How could you know that a log is fake? Actually you can't.

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47 minutes ago, HHL said:

How could you know that a log is fake? Actually you can't.

Well, if someone logged a cache in, say, Berlin or New York immediately before logging the first stage of my AL in NSW, it would be a pretty good hint.

 

Also,the answer to my first stage used to be a small number.  Someone logged the first stage only.   They couldn't guess stage 2.

 

So, actually, I can.

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8 hours ago, Gill & Tony said:

Well, if someone logged a cache in, say, Berlin or New York immediately before logging the first stage of my AL in NSW, it would be a pretty good hint.

It's a good hint that one of the two logs could be fake. But you can't say for sure which one.

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14 minutes ago, HHL said:

It's a good hint that one of the two logs could be fake. But you can't say for sure which one.

Well, his home location is in Germany, his finds on the day before, day of and day after the Australian find are in Germany and he has no other finds in Australia so I can be sure which one is false.  And before you get really pedantic, the masculine includes the feminine and the singular includes the plural.

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14 hours ago, HHL said:

How could you know that a log is fake? Actually you can't.

I have dozens of logs on my ALC where I can tell that they are definitely fake. Why? The location is indoors, and not open 24/7. When the ALC is logged at times when it's closed, the logs are fake. Also, the ALC has 5 locations. It's physically impossible to visit all of them, find the info and enter the answers in less than 10-15 minutes (if you run at full speed between the stages). Yet, some people logged everything within 60 seconds.

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41 minutes ago, baer2006 said:

Yet, some people logged everything within 60 seconds.


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Hello,

since Groundspeak won't show us the Adventure Lab caches on the standard map it would be very nice if one could browse for them at https://labs.geocaching.com/.

It is a bit frustrating to just see then on the phone and also makes it a bit difficult to plan your trips.

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On 6/4/2020 at 12:38 PM, yxza said:

Hello,

since Groundspeak won't show us the Adventure Lab caches on the standard map it would be very nice if one could browse for them at https://labs.geocaching.com/.

It is a bit frustrating to just see then on the phone and also makes it a bit difficult to plan your trips.

this is quite tired some .. for example there are 2 or more labs in the same general area, so as you go, you need to leave one advanture, enter a different one find the place, log it and agan .. would be nice to see and log them all from the map, without the need of swithching between adventures .. 

 

also, it would be nice, if the IOS app would stop killing iTunes .. whenever I listen music, and start adventure lab it stops the music .. is there any lab with sound??

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19 hours ago, Tungstène said:

There are labs with videos.

 

And plenty of apps with multi-media allow audio to remain active in the background until the media is requested to play - rather than force-stopping all background media merely on foregrounding the app in question. It can be done...

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How are you able to tell what time players are logging these labs and also WHO is logging them unless they write an activity log?  Earlier in the year I was able to download a report with the player names and times but that access was removed and dumbed down into the most basic report showing only the number of times each stage has been logged as well as a count  of total stages completed.  This access was removed in the name of GDPR.  Baer2006, perhaps the finder is only making their activity log when the location is closed and did the stages when the location was open.  If you don't write an activity log at completion you do have the opportunity to write it later.  But again, how would you be able to tell with the basic stat data you are given?  There is no data provided for actual logging time of the stages.

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3 hours ago, Twinklekitkat said:

Baer2006, perhaps the finder is only making their activity log when the location is closed and did the stages when the location was open.  If you don't write an activity log at completion you do have the opportunity to write it later.  But again, how would you be able to tell with the basic stat data you are given?  There is no data provided for actual logging time of the stages.

That's my point - I cannot tell now, without the info about the stage logs. But my ALC has been active since April 2019, so that I had many months of data with individual log time stamps. And in these data I could identify the armchair logs. Whenever I saw the armchair logs going up, I changed the question to the first stage - just because I can :P. That was my way to compensate a bit for the fact that I can't remove obvious armchair logs ;) .

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43 minutes ago, baer2006 said:

That's my point - I cannot tell now, without the info about the stage logs. But my ALC has been active since April 2019, so that I had many months of data with individual log time stamps. And in these data I could identify the armchair logs. Whenever I saw the armchair logs going up, I changed the question to the first stage - just because I can :P. That was my way to compensate a bit for the fact that I can't remove obvious armchair logs ;) .

 

OK - I thought you were saying you had this capability NOW.  I enjoyed reviewing that data before it was taken away.  I really don't get why it was removed.  I understand about privacy but what were we really getting that was so private?  For anyone who created a lab without a bonus there is absolutely no way for them to know who may have completed it unless the seeker writes an activity log.  Mine is currently 59% of those who completed it wrote a log.

 

So, here is wish #1:  If GS is not going to give us the info back in the CSV file, can we at least get the user name of who completed the adventure regardless of whether they write a log or not or rate the adventure.  Just give us the user name they logged in with to complete the adventure along with the date and their find count in the activity log on the app.  The same data provided for those who DO write a log.  

 

Wish #2: Agree on the opening of the app killing iTunes/iHeartRadio, etc.  That irks me.

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Please update the "Leaderboard" page.  My AL has been completed 16 times. There are only 10 Activity logs.  I have no idea who the other 6 who completed the AL are.

 

The Leaderboard shows the first 10 who finished the AL.  Why not show everyone?  If it's GDPR, why are we getting to see the first 10?

I can see the FTF and "Top 3" finders of each location. Why not all? 

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More Wishes:

 

1. When using the Explore tab (bottom left) I can move the map and then "Search this Area" to be shown all the Adventure Lab pins at a new location.  I then have to open each pin to see the adventure name and details. Would love to use the hamburger menu in the top right of the Explore tab to see these adventures as a list but unfortunately when I do this it just reverts back to my home coordinates.

2. As an Adventure Lab player, on a completed lab I can go to the activity log, edit my log and view the star rating for the adventure.  Looks like anything above 4.5 is shown as 5 stars on the home screen of the Adventure but by choosing to edit my log I can see that an Adventure may be rated 4.8 of 5 stars even though displayed as 5 front facing.  I would like the ability to see this in my own adventure. I suppose I could if I completed my own Adventure as many have but I haven't yet done this. 

 

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16 minutes ago, Twinklekitkat said:

Would love to use the hamburger menu in the top right of the Explore tab to see these adventures as a list but unfortunately when I do this it just reverts back to my home coordinates.

That would be an improvement.

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