+pixelteer425 Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 Not sure if this one's been suggested before, but I didn't see anything with the search. This category (which needs a better name) is essentially what it says in the title, a category similar to the Local Neighborhood Grocer category, but instead for churches. I come from a city that is locally famous for having a church and a bar on every corner, and most of these churches are very small and only bring in a few families each. I feel like these types of small, more personal churches would be good for a new category, but I want to hear what the rest of you guys think 1 Quote
+Alfouine Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 We have a lot of categories for churches, and especially small churches, like Country Churches or Waychapels and all dedicated religion churches categories or Religious Buildings Multifarious Quote
+pixelteer425 Posted April 19, 2020 Author Posted April 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Alfouine said: We have a lot of categories for churches, and especially small churches, like Country Churches or Waychapels and all dedicated religion churches categories or Religious Buildings Multifarious Yeah, I looked through all of those to see if this category has already been done. I was thinking it’s similar to country churches, but that category specifies they have to be outside city lines Quote
vulture1957 Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 7 hours ago, pixelteer425 said: Not sure if this one's been suggested before, but I didn't see anything with the search. This category (which needs a better name) is essentially what it says in the title, a category similar to the Local Neighborhood Grocer category, but instead for churches. I come from a city that is locally famous for having a church and a bar on every corner, and most of these churches are very small and only bring in a few families each. I feel like these types of small, more personal churches would be good for a new category, but I want to hear what the rest of you guys think With most of the major church denominations, and then MegaChurches and Churches Multifarious, I think ALL churches can now be waymarked in a category. Country Churches has a delineation that makes it special. How would your idea be so different? Only 1000 sq ft or less, only XX attendance. How would reviewers be able to verify this? Quote
+pixelteer425 Posted April 19, 2020 Author Posted April 19, 2020 3 hours ago, vulture1957 said: With most of the major church denominations, and then MegaChurches and Churches Multifarious, I think ALL churches can now be waymarked in a category. Country Churches has a delineation that makes it special. How would your idea be so different? Only 1000 sq ft or less, only XX attendance. How would reviewers be able to verify this? That’s a fair point, and one I haven’t considered. Do you happen to know what the distinction for Local Neighborhood Grocer is? I think it could use the same one, since they’re a similar concept Quote
vulture1957 Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, pixelteer425 said: That’s a fair point, and one I haven’t considered. Do you happen to know what the distinction for Local Neighborhood Grocer is? I think it could use the same one, since they’re a similar concept but there are not categories for all the grocery chains. There are for Krogers, Aldi and Publix. Not for Albertsons, Jewel (are they still around?), Homeland, etc. And the local grocery is for non-chain stores. That means - to me - that a local neighborhood church would not be in any specific denomination, but then it's multifarious. Can you give an instance of a church that would NOT fit into an existing category? Edited April 19, 2020 by vulture1957 2 Quote
+iconions Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, pixelteer425 said: That’s a fair point, and one I haven’t considered. Do you happen to know what the distinction for Local Neighborhood Grocer is? I think it could use the same one, since they’re a similar concept I want to commend you for your enthusiasm - it's great to see in someone new. That said, you need to experience posting more waymarks before you try to create a category. 1 posted waymark is not enough experience to know how to do a good writeup for a category. The problem with your concept of a neighborhood church is that ANY church of ANY denomination located in a neighborhood (what defines a neighborhood? small town, within a few blocks? ..etc?) can be waymarked. The category is too broad; it overlaps too many other categories already in place; and it is EXACTLY what the multifarious denomination was designed to do - catch those churches that weren't being waymarked. The neighborhood grocer category is again a "catch-all" to be able to waymark those unaffiliated grocery stores that aren't able to be waymarked. You can still do a REALLY great write up on those churches in the categories they are designed for - that is EXACTLY what Waymarking is for! TELL the stories of those churches - what makes them special and unique! You do not need a brand new category for that - especially a proposed one that, from experience, will not pass peer review as that is why the multifarious category was created to end the parade of church denominations and types being proposed. 1 1 Quote
+iconions Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, vulture1957 said: but there are not categories for all the grocery chains. There are for Krogers, Aldi and Publix. Not for Albertsons, Jewel (are they still around?), Homeland, etc. And the local grocery is for non-chain stores. That means - to me - that a local neighborhood church would not be in any specific denomination, but then it's multifarious. Can you give an instance of a church that would NOT fit into an existing category? Great minds think alike and at the same time! Quote
vulture1957 Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 and as for the local grocery -- I use that for the "specialty" ethnic grocers. Asian, Mexican, mediterranean, hallal, African, kosher. Quote
vulture1957 Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, iconions said: Great minds think alike and at the same time! either you think too loud, or your computer keys are too noisy. I'm not a great mind! 1 Quote
+iconions Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 57 minutes ago, vulture1957 said: either you think too loud, or your computer keys are too noisy. I'm not a great mind! Too funny! Quote
+pixelteer425 Posted April 19, 2020 Author Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, iconions said: I want to commend you for your enthusiasm - it's great to see in someone new. That said, you need to experience posting more waymarks before you try to create a category. 1 posted waymark is not enough experience to know how to do a good writeup for a category. The problem with your concept of a neighborhood church is that ANY church of ANY denomination located in a neighborhood (what defines a neighborhood? small town, within a few blocks? ..etc?) can be waymarked. The category is too broad; it overlaps too many other categories already in place; and it is EXACTLY what the multifarious denomination was designed to do - catch those churches that weren't being waymarked. The neighborhood grocer category is again a "catch-all" to be able to waymark those unaffiliated grocery stores that aren't able to be waymarked. You can still do a REALLY great write up on those churches in the categories they are designed for - that is EXACTLY what Waymarking is for! TELL the stories of those churches - what makes them special and unique! You do not need a brand new category for that - especially a proposed one that, from experience, will not pass peer review as that is why the multifarious category was created to end the parade of church denominations and types being proposed. Thank you for the feedback. I know I'm new, it's just an idea I had on a whim and was wondering if it had any need to be made. The church that made me think of it is one that is on the end of my block, which seems to be for a specific denomination of Christianity that I've never seen before, and only ever has 5 or less cars parked next to it. That's the idea I had for the category, a church that's very small (like around the size of a house) and has a small audience. But I agree with what vulture said in that other than the size aspect these would be very hard to verify and enforce 1 Quote
+T0SHEA Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, pixelteer425 said: these would be very hard to verify and enforce I also commend you on your first category proposal. Like many before, new waymarkers create categories only to realize most likely there is a category already. 1 hour ago, pixelteer425 said: specific denomination of Christianity If you would share the name of the church and denomination, I may be able to assist you. 1 Quote
+QuarrellaDeVil Posted April 19, 2020 Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, vulture1957 said: That means - to me - that a local neighborhood church would not be in any specific denomination, but then it's multifarious. Can you give an instance of a church that would NOT fit into an existing category? I am reminded that I have photos of a "biker church" that I spotted some years ago. Non-denominational, it didn't fit into a category until the multifarious one came around. "Voici" an example of something that might be that ol' local neighborhood church, but it already fits into an existing category. Edited April 20, 2020 by QuarrellaDeVil 1 Quote
+pixelteer425 Posted April 19, 2020 Author Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, T0SHEA said: If you would share the name of the church and denomination, I may be able to assist you. The name is New Destiny Church. I was unable to find the specific denomination on their website. After thinking some more, I feel that if this category was to be made, the number one thing it would be looking for is a physically small church (around the size of a single story house) that caters to less than 100 (or so) members Quote
+pixelteer425 Posted April 19, 2020 Author Posted April 19, 2020 1 hour ago, QuarrellaDeVil said: I am reminded that I have photos of a "biker church" that I spotted some years ago. Non-denominational, it didn't fit into a category until the multifarious one came around. "Voici" an example of something that might that ol' local neighborhood church, but it already fits into an existing category. That’s a very interesting idea for a church, for sure. Thanks for the advice Quote
+T0SHEA Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, pixelteer425 said: The name is New Destiny Church. Is it on 11th Street? Quote
+pixelteer425 Posted April 20, 2020 Author Posted April 20, 2020 40 minutes ago, T0SHEA said: Is it on 11th Street? Yep, 11th and Elm Quote
+T0SHEA Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 Just now, pixelteer425 said: Yep, 11th and Elm Yes, I did locate it. Is not quite what I expected looking on Google map. It is a nice building. I did find their website. (not facebook) What do you want me to do? I can post it here or sent it to you from your profile page. From what I read it is a Non-Denominational church (Spirit filled) and should be a nice addition to the RBM Religious Buildings Multifarious Please read the category requirements before you go, be sure to take lots of pictures. The RBM requires a minimum of 3 pictures. Though not required, inside pictures are a bonus. I will look forward to reviewing the New Destiny Church. If you are interest , there are several more churches in the area that would also qualify in the RBM. 1 1 Quote
+pixelteer425 Posted April 20, 2020 Author Posted April 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, T0SHEA said: Yes, I did locate it. Is not quite what I expected looking on Google map. It is a nice building. I did find their website. (not facebook) What do you want me to do? I can post it here or sent it to you from your profile page. From what I read it is a Non-Denominational church (Spirit filled) and should be a nice addition to the RBM Religious Buildings Multifarious Please read the category requirements before you go, be sure to take lots of pictures. The RBM requires a minimum of 3 pictures. Though not required, inside pictures are a bonus. I will look forward to reviewing the New Destiny Church. If you are interest , there are several more churches in the area that would also qualify in the RBM. Don't worry about sending the website, like I said I've already looked through it. Thanks for the other information 1 Quote
+ScroogieII Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 On 4/19/2020 at 12:04 PM, iconions said: You can still do a REALLY great write up on those churches in the categories they are designed for - that is EXACTLY what Waymarking is for! TELL the stories of those churches - what makes them special and unique! You do not need a brand new category for that - especially a proposed one that, from experience, will not pass peer review as that is why the multifarious category was created to end the parade of church denominations and types being proposed. Well said, Tom. Quote
+ScroogieII Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 On 4/19/2020 at 12:15 PM, vulture1957 said: and as for the local grocery -- I use that for the "specialty" ethnic grocers. Asian, Mexican, mediterranean, hallal, African, kosher. I tend to agree with Lee here, with a caveat, that being that many neighbourhoods are home to little family run grocery stores that are as old as the neighbourhood itself, often still run by descendants of the original operators, becoming, if not a national treasure, at least a local treasure. Quote
+ScroogieII Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 On 4/19/2020 at 12:16 PM, vulture1957 said: either you think too loud, or your computer keys are too noisy. I'm not a great mind! I had to quote this one just so I could add this: LOLOLOLOLOL Lee, You is a funny, funny man. Quote
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