What was your worst experience with muggles?

[+HunterandSamuel]

20 hours ago, colleda said:

When I ring my bell before overtaking walkers will often move over a little to give me more room (than I need) and, occasionally, a friendly wave. When I'm walking I'll give a wave and a "thank you". Some riders will call "on your right" or "passing".

 

 

On our bike (and walker) path bikers will say on your left so we walkers won't wander over to the left just as they are passing and have a dangerous collision.

[+The Jester]

3 hours ago, HunterandSamuel said:

 

 

On our bike (and walker) path bikers will say on your left so we walkers won't wander over to the left just as they are passing and have a dangerous collision.

I don't know how many times I've called "on your left" and had the people jump left.  I think some, in their surprise, just hear 'left' and move that way. 

[+Goldenwattle]

1 hour ago, The Jester said:

I don't know how many times I've called "on your left" and had the people jump left.  I think some, in their surprise, just hear 'left' and move that way. 

We say on your right here. As someone who cycles at times (much less since I retired and no longer ride to work) that instruction works for me, when I hear it from behind. I imagine that those who jump the wrong way don't cycle.

[+niraD]

1 hour ago, Goldenwattle said:

We say on your right here. As someone who cycles at times (much less since I retired and no longer ride to work) that instruction works for me, when I hear it from behind. I imagine that those who jump the wrong way don't cycle.

Another factor is whether the pedestrians hear the full phrase. If they're paying attention to something else, they may hear "Mm mmmm left" or "Mm mmm right", and interpret the shout as an instruction to move that way, rather than a warning that you're passing on that side.

 

I try to be a bit verbose, something like "Excuse me, passing on your left", which seems to work better.

[+BethDaddyKaty]

11 minutes ago, niraD said:

Another factor is whether the pedestrians hear the full phrase. If they're paying attention to something else, they may hear "Mm mmmm left" or "Mm mmm right", and interpret the shout as an instruction to move that way, rather than a warning that you're passing on that side.

 

I try to be a bit verbose, something like "Excuse me, passing on your left", which seems to work better.

All this discussion depresses me.

 

Cyclists go out of their way to be considerate and get nothing but abuse.

 

I'm on crutches at the moment so crossing the road etc takes longer. It's been an eye opener for me. If you delay a motorist for a couple of seconds *whilst on crutches* then you get beeped at and a mouthful of abuse. Because you can't physically cross the road before the lights turn green, or in a gap in traffic.

 

Yet no-one ever talks about motorists forcing their way through. Just cyclists.

[+Max and 99]

On 1/17/2020 at 12:33 PM, L0ne.R said:

I can't relate to the anti-dog stuff. I love dogs. I've wanted to take dogs home with me that I've met on the trails. I've never had a problem with off leash dogs but like JL_HSTRE I'm reasonably cautious, let the dog approach and sniff first, no sudden movements like a pat on the head until the dog is comfortable. Once had a wigglebutt friend for about 10 minutes while on a countryside trail, after coming back from a cache. She had gotten away from her owner, probably smelled me a mile away and had to meet me.  I waited and eventually the worried owner found me and the dog. We had a nice chat and off they went, leaving me a little heartbroken. 

 

 

 

I've never met a four-legged muggle that I didn't want to take home with me. Kisses from 4-legged strangers are always welcome. Any cache that I go to with a new four-legged muggle is going to be a favorite of mine. Our last geotour cache was at a TN Dude Ranch. When we arrived the ranch dog came running over. The owner called him back. He looked at her. He looked at me. "Nah, he's going to come with us."

"O.K."

He accompanied us down the trail and to the cache and back again. It broke my heart to make him go back to his owner so we could leave. It helped knowing he was a happy dude ranch dog! 

[+BethDaddyKaty]

3 minutes ago, Max and 99 said:

I've never met a four-legged muggle that I didn't want to take home with me. Kisses from 4-legged strangers are always welcome. Any cache that I go to with a new four-legged muggle is going to be a favorite of mine. Our last geotour cache was at a TN Dude Ranch. When we arrived the ranch dog came running over. The owner called him back. He looked at her. He looked at me. "Nah, he's going to come with us."

"O.K."

He accompanied us down the trail and to the cache and back again. It broke my heart to make him go back to his owner so we could leave. It helped knowing he was a happy dude ranch dog! 

Yes, but the complaint is that not everyone wants to be friends with dogs. And just saying "Don''t worry, he's harmless" is not a magic cure all.

 

As an example, take my two year old who is now terrified of dogs when, whilst sitting at a picnic table on a caching trip, two large dogs started jumping up at her. Dog owner saying to the (then one year old) who can't understand, "Don't worry, they're harmless.

 

Great news, I didn't really want them to bite her face off, but I'd prefer you not to allow them to run around in a recreation ground with child's play equipment just jumping up at small children.

 

The problem people who love dogs is they don't understand that many of us don't really like dogs, and especially don't really like being climbed on and licked by a dog in areas where dogs are meant to be on leads..

[+Goldenwattle]

31 minutes ago, niraD said:

Another factor is whether the pedestrians hear the full phrase. If they're paying attention to something else, they may hear "Mm mmmm left" or "Mm mmm right", and interpret the shout as an instruction to move that way, rather than a warning that you're passing on that side.

 

I try to be a bit verbose, something like "Excuse me, passing on your left", which seems to work better.

It works for me as I say the same thing when cycling, so I don't need to hear the whole sentence. I imagine this would be the same for others who cycle too. It is as I wrote, likely those who don't cycle that don't get it.

[+Max and 99]

1 hour ago, BethDaddyKaty said:

Yes, but the complaint is that not everyone wants to be friends with dogs. And just saying "Don''t worry, he's harmless" is not a magic cure all.

 

As an example, take my two year old who is now terrified of dogs when, whilst sitting at a picnic table on a caching trip, two large dogs started jumping up at her. Dog owner saying to the (then one year old) who can't understand, "Don't worry, they're harmless.

 

Great news, I didn't really want them to bite her face off, but I'd prefer you not to allow them to run around in a recreation ground with child's play equipment just jumping up at small children.

 

The problem people who love dogs is they don't understand that many of us don't really like dogs, and especially don't really like being climbed on and licked by a dog in areas where dogs are meant to be on leads..

That is understandable!

[+cerberus1]

5 hours ago, Goldenwattle said:

We say on your right here. As someone who cycles at times (much less since I retired and no longer ride to work) that instruction works for me, when I hear it from behind. I imagine that those who jump the wrong way don't cycle.

 

Well, you guys do drive on the "other" side of the road too, so guess that's understandable.     

[+Crazedllama]

I do most of my geocaching in South Korea. One day while hiking south of Seoul, I was looking for a geocache under a footbridge halfway up a mountain when a Buddhist Monk from the nearby temple saw me and accused me of being a North Korean Spy. 

I rolled my eyes and tried to explain what I was doing, but just ended up walking away with a dnf because of the situation was so ridiculous. 

 

[+Isonzo Karst]

I was bushwhacking towards a dirt road.  I'd been cross country checking out two spots visible from aerials, as possible springs and possible cache locations (no).   Green Swamp West is opened to hikers, bikers, horseback riders and geocaching. Open to vehicles only by hunters, and only a few days each year during Special Opportunity hunts. During special hunts, area closes to all other users. 

 

Driver of officially marked truck on the road noticed me. Laid on horn, and got out of the car and waved me to him.  I wasn't real happy about this, it wasn't my line of travel, and I figured he could come to me to talk. And he kept hitting the horn over and over, even after I'd acknowledged him and was headed his way.  As I got close he started shouting,  his language was inappropriate. I got onto the road, read his name tag. Addressed him by name, objected to the $!%*&* language, and asked what the issue was?  He did apologize for the word choice. But stayed loud, aggressive and hostile,  told me he was going to arrest me for being there during a Special Opportunity hunt. 

 

I asked if he were lost? That I'd be happy to help him locate Green Swamp EAST, where it was Special Opportunity Spring Turkey.

 

He didn't speak again, got into the truck and left. 

 

 

[+HunterandSamuel]

15 hours ago, The Jester said:

I don't know how many times I've called "on your left" and had the people jump left.  I think some, in their surprise, just hear 'left' and move that way. 

 

That made me chuckle. Sorry!  We have the sweetest lady who bikes back and forth on the bike path and always says...on your left. I'm temped to say "on your right" next time she passes us in the opposite direction. lol

[+HunterandSamuel]

12 hours ago, BethDaddyKaty said:

I'm on crutches at the moment so crossing the road etc takes longer. It's been an eye opener for me. If you delay a motorist for a couple of seconds *whilst on crutches* then you get beeped at and a mouthful of abuse. Because you can't physically cross the road before the lights turn green, or in a gap in traffic.

 

 

Yikes! Very rude of them. Why are you on crutches? Sorry to hear that. I was for awhile due to a broken ankle.

[+HunterandSamuel]

12 hours ago, Max and 99 said:

I've never met a four-legged muggle that I didn't want to take home with me. Kisses from 4-legged strangers are always welcome.

 

Dogs on the bike path are usually happy to see us and jump up on their hind legs. I always let them because I don't want to offend the dog owners who love their furry babies. lol 

[+BethDaddyKaty]

8 hours ago, HunterandSamuel said:

 

Yikes! Very rude of them. Why are you on crutches? Sorry to hear that. I was for awhile due to a broken ankle.

Nasty knee infection from antibiotic resistant bugs unfortunately. Started out with a  bang and a bit of a red patch on my knee and 24 hours later I was on the operating table  count myself lucky, the nearest orthopaedic hospital is an NHS regional specialist centre. Pretty certain if it wasn't for having those doctors treating it as an emergency case would have lost my leg.

[+The Jester]

9 hours ago, HunterandSamuel said:

 

That made me chuckle. Sorry!  We have the sweetest lady who bikes back and forth on the bike path and always says...on your left. I'm temped to say "on your right" next time she passes us in the opposite direction. lol

A few times when there was a line of us cyclist, if I was in a back position, I'd use the line "Or on my right" after the front one or two passed the walkers - generally when it's slow enough to make a comment or two back and forth.  It mostly got a laugh.

[+HunterandSamuel]

13 hours ago, BethDaddyKaty said:

Nasty knee infection from antibiotic resistant bugs unfortunately. Started out with a  bang and a bit of a red patch on my knee and 24 hours later I was on the operating table  count myself lucky, the nearest orthopaedic hospital is an NHS regional specialist centre. Pretty certain if it wasn't for having those doctors treating it as an emergency case would have lost my leg.

 

Thank God for modern medicine. Were you swimming in a lake or ocean? I heard about a antibiotic resistant flesh eating bug from swimming in waters. 

[+HunterandSamuel]

Getting back on topic. Another bad experience are muggles smoking on bike paths or trails when we are caching and having to breathe in the smoke and smell. But you can never say something to them...they will defend themselves aggressively. 

[+NYPaddleCacher]

On 1/18/2020 at 6:15 PM, The Jester said:

I don't know how many times I've called "on your left" and had the people jump left.  I think some, in their surprise, just hear 'left' and move that way. 

I've seen that.  They'll hear "on your left", and can't seem to turn to look over their left shoulder without moving to the left.  

[+NYPaddleCacher]

11 hours ago, HunterandSamuel said:

Getting back on topic. Another bad experience are muggles smoking on bike paths or trails when we are caching and having to breathe in the smoke and smell. But you can never say something to them...they will defend themselves aggressively. 

 

Are they doing something illegal?  

[+colleda]

4 hours ago, NYPaddleCacher said:

 

Are they doing something illegal?  

Nope, they are free to do it but it is an irritant to many non smokers, myself included, as I have medical condition brought about by passive smoking from working in an office for many years when smoking was permitted. As for smokers on walking/cycling paths near me, I cannot recall coming across a smoker cycling or walking over the years I've been using them. That would be irony wouldn't it, a smoker walking or cycling to keep fit.

 

[+kunarion]

35 minutes ago, colleda said:

Nope, they are free to do it but it is an irritant to many non smokers, myself included, as I have medical condition brought about by passive smoking from working in an office for many years when smoking was permitted. As for smokers on walking/cycling paths near me, I cannot recall coming across a smoker cycling or walking over the years I've been using them. That would be irony wouldn't it, a smoker walking or cycling to keep fit.

 

 

Then there's the "vape" guy who exhales a gigantic fog cloud which completely engulfs me.  For the rest of the day, I feel like I now smell vaguely of cotton candy and lung parasites.

 

[+HunterandSamuel]

10 hours ago, NYPaddleCacher said:

 

Are they doing something illegal?  

 

What does that have to do with the title of this thread?

[+HunterandSamuel]

6 hours ago, colleda said:

Nope, they are free to do it but it is an irritant to many non smokers, myself included, as I have medical condition brought about by passive smoking from working in an office for many years when smoking was permitted. As for smokers on walking/cycling paths near me, I cannot recall coming across a smoker cycling or walking over the years I've been using them. That would be irony wouldn't it, a smoker walking or cycling to keep fit.

 

 

Very ironic smoking cigarettes while walking on the bike path, especially when we walk on it to stay in good health and of course to geocache.  One muggle was sitting on a bench smoking away. That's when we were searching for a hiding spot for our new cache container. We decided that's not a good spot if people are going to sit there to smoke. A factory is nearby so we think they sit there on their lunch or cigarette break. 

[+cerberus1]

16 hours ago, NYPaddleCacher said:

Are they doing something illegal?  

 

Agreed...    I used to be one of only a couple of odd men out at events, until vaping came along. 

I guess peach fog is better for you than tobacco...

 - But we see  the same people who'd whine about being irritated by "smoke" from a cigarette stand right next to us when we have a wood-fire going at camp.

Odd.

[+cerberus1]

11 hours ago, colleda said:

 As for smokers on walking/cycling paths near me, I cannot recall coming across a smoker cycling or walking over the years I've been using them. That would be irony wouldn't it, a smoker walking or cycling to keep fit.

 

Biking similar to motorcycles, a lit ember and wind doesn't mix well with a beard and most clothing.  

Most folks here have seen a few of us older guys walking along the bogs n creek edges with a cigar.  

I started carrying grape cigars in my pack for those who've found how well they direct the gnats from us to them.  

[+HunterandSamuel]

 

  16 hours ago, NYPaddleCacher said:

Are they doing something illegal?  

 

cerberus1: Agreed...    I used to be one of only a couple of odd men out at events, until vaping came along. 

I guess peach fog is better for you than tobacco...

 - But we see  the same people who'd whine about being irritated by "smoke" from a cigarette stand right next to us when we have a wood-fire going at camp.

Odd.

 

 

 Agreed on what? That because something is not "illegal" shouldn't be someone's complaint about bad experiences with muggles? This is a thread to discuss experiences with muggles. Having to breathe in their cigarette smoke while geocaching can be a bad experience for people who don't smoke. The smell is horrendous and disgusting to breathe in while out in the fresh air. Just because it's not illegal to smoke on a bike path doesn't take away the subject topic of this thread and that we shouldn't complain. Give me a wood fire anyday over breathing in cancer causing second hand cigarette smoke. Amazing that you are calling us/them/your friends...whiners. Yes, you grouped us together. The message was there. "Whiners" is name calling and not the topic of this thread. 

[+cerberus1]

Familiesforcleanair.org

[+HunterandSamuel]

56 minutes ago, cerberus1 said:

Familiesforcleanair.org

 

Wood burning is more dangerous than cigarette smoke your link states?? So what? That still doesn't address what this has to do with geocachers complaining about muggles smoking on bike paths, etc., and the topic of this thread. Maybe, since you feel strongly about this, start a new thread about cigarette smoke vs wood smoke while geocaching. 

Edited January 21, 2020 by HunterandSamuel

[+BethDaddyKaty]

4 hours ago, HunterandSamuel said:

 

  16 hours ago, NYPaddleCacher said:

Are they doing something illegal?  

 

cerberus1: Agreed...    I used to be one of only a couple of odd men out at events, until vaping came along. 

I guess peach fog is better for you than tobacco...

 - But we see  the same people who'd whine about being irritated by "smoke" from a cigarette stand right next to us when we have a wood-fire going at camp.

Odd.

 

 

 Agreed on what? That because something is not "illegal" shouldn't be someone's complaint about bad experiences with muggles? This is a thread to discuss experiences with muggles. Having to breathe in their cigarette smoke while geocaching can be a bad experience for people who don't smoke. The smell is horrendous and disgusting to breathe in while out in the fresh air. Just because it's not illegal to smoke on a bike path doesn't take away the subject topic of this thread and that we shouldn't complain. Give me a wood fire anyday over breathing in cancer causing second hand cigarette smoke. Amazing that you are calling us/them/your friends...whiners. Yes, you grouped us together. The message was there. "Whiners" is name calling and not the topic of this thread. 

If you're caching near a busy road the air quality is probably worse than one person smoking.

 

If you're in a car in busy traffic the air quality will be much worse - usually x2.5 as polluted as outside.

 

Yet people get really stressed about cigarette smoke, whilst ignoring the fact that most of us breathe in far more foul air from cars and lorries, and suffer more health effects  than we will from ever being around smokers.

 

So on topic, what irks me when caching - drivers. It would be do much nicer to have silence in the woods and clean air to breathe if we were all using electric cars, pushbikes or walking.

[+Harry Dolphin]

17 hours ago, colleda said:

Nope, they are free to do it but it is an irritant to many non smokers, myself included, as I have medical condition brought about by passive smoking from working in an office for many years when smoking was permitted. As for smokers on walking/cycling paths near me, I cannot recall coming across a smoker cycling or walking over the years I've been using them. That would be irony wouldn't it, a smoker walking or cycling to keep fit.

 

That's bizarre.  Smokers don't hike?  I do quite a bit of hiking.  It helps keep me in shape.  I've hiked half the AT!  (And carry out my cigarette butts.)

[+colleda]

1 hour ago, Harry Dolphin said:

 

That's bizarre.  Smokers don't hike?  I do quite a bit of hiking.  It helps keep me in shape.  I've hiked half the AT!  (And carry out my cigarette butts.)

It's bizarre that a dolphin has a tobacco habit. How do they keep them lit?

[+K13]

22 minutes ago, colleda said:

It's bizarre that a dolphin has a tobacco habit. How do they keep them lit?

You ever hear of water-proof matches?

[+HunterandSamuel]

16 hours ago, BethDaddyKaty said:

If you're caching near a busy road the air quality is probably worse than one person smoking.

 

If you're in a car in busy traffic the air quality will be much worse - usually x2.5 as polluted as outside.

 

Yet people get really stressed about cigarette smoke, whilst ignoring the fact that most of us breathe in far more foul air from cars and lorries, and suffer more health effects  than we will from ever being around smokers.

 

So on topic, what irks me when caching - drivers. It would be do much nicer to have silence in the woods and clean air to breathe if we were all using electric cars, pushbikes or walking.

 

Um, the topic, my muggle experiences, are not open for debates.  Just want to let the old timer members (I know you are new) here know this.  If breathing in foul air from cars is your complaint about muggles (read the title of this thread) then say so but don't loop it in with mine. Thank you. 

 

 

Edited January 22, 2020 by HunterandSamuel

[+HunterandSamuel]

So, this is so ironic, one of my not so good experiences with muggles is having to breathe in their nasty cigarette smoke while geocaching on bike/trail paths. Just this morning someone found a cache of mine and logged this. lol

 

"A clear day with dry roads and temperatures in the single digits(F), yep, perfect geocaching conditions. ? Other than the chain smoking muggle standing by his car over in the corner of the lot, this LPC was a relatively quick park-n-grab. ? Signed the log as    . TFTC! ?"

[+TriciaG]

If second-hand smoke from a muggle is one's worst experience with a muggle (thread title), one has nothing to complain of.

Edited January 22, 2020 by TriciaG

[+NYPaddleCacher]

On 1/21/2020 at 12:37 AM, colleda said:

Nope, they are free to do it but it is an irritant to many non smokers, myself included, as I have medical condition brought about by passive smoking from working in an office for many years when smoking was permitted. As for smokers on walking/cycling paths near me, I cannot recall coming across a smoker cycling or walking over the years I've been using them. That would be irony wouldn't it, a smoker walking or cycling to keep fit.

 

 

Maybe they're not walking or cycling (or geocaching) to keep fit.   Maybe they just like going for walks,  riding a bicycle, or geocaching but also smoke.    I was a smoker for over 40 years.  I became a non-smoker because I had a heart attack almost a year ago.    It took a significant event to get me to quit.  It's not easy.   I still get cravings almost a year later.  Someone that does currently smoke might get a craving to smoke while walking in the outdoors.

[+HunterandSamuel]

Just now, TriciaG said:

If second-hand smoke from a muggle is one's worst experience with a muggle (thread title), one has nothing to complain of.

 

There are many worse experiences besides this one that I complained about. Didn't you read the thread??? 

[+TriciaG]

Yes, I have. Much of it is off-topic (how cyclists and pedestrians interact on mixed-use paths, second-hand smoke vs. car exhaust, etc.), which it seems like threads often go off-topic when we can't resist responding to others' outrageous comments.

Never mind. Please carry on with the off-topic about health concerns of smoking outdoors.

[+HunterandSamuel]

28 minutes ago, TriciaG said:

YNever mind. Please carry on with the off-topic about health concerns of smoking outdoors.

 

Dear, my experience was on topic until some of you took it off topic. And I don't need your permission to carry on or decide for me what my bad experiences with muggles are. 

[+thebruce0]

On my road trip Texas last year for Geowoodstock I quite often stopped in at Walmarts, and I had one encounter while in a store... well, um... actually I guess I shouldn't be surprised. 

 

 

But the story, for kicks... I was going up an aisle one night and a shorter, kind of 'energetic' guy started eyeing me. He was with his girl (presumably) and almost immediately started fishing for a reaction by claim I was eyeing up his girl and I'd better keep moving (she was completely oblivious to this, doing her shopping only feet away from us). Continuing on, a few minutes later I once again spotted him in the clothing area where some racks were a little shorter and he made another approach saying he saw me, was watching me, and if he saw me again he'd, well, take me down (in that kind of thug "come fight me" attitude). All this time (being Canadian) I'm responding casually and maybe with a bit of a chuckle because we honestly don't really ever get people acting like that seriously around here... so that probably didn't help the situation much.  Suffice to say, as I continued my shopping I was keeping an eye out for him from a distance and watching for staff just in case I needed to grab some attention (and would have if it happened a 3rd time).  I didn't see him again, but I was certainly scanning the parking lot as I exited back to my vehicle with road tripping goodies...  Wouldn't want to meet him on a trail. And not familiar with local carry laws or crime rates, I had no idea what he might have concealed. Ah, Walmart.

Edited January 22, 2020 by thebruce0

[+HunterandSamuel]

3 hours ago, thebruce0 said:

Ah, Walmart.

 

LOL Yup. Walmart in America. Some scary muggles. I know Canadians are very polite people. Here in America we have to be careful in many places. It's frightening to even shop at a mall or go to a movie today because of gun shootings in the news. Know your surroundings but avoid eye contact with people who raise the hair on the back of your neck. They will take that you are challenging them. Our hospitals have police officers on guard now. So to keep this on topic, one experience was in the ER. A guy got fed up with waiting so yelled and screamed and torn the IVs out of his arm. He looked at me in his fury and I immediately looked down. I think he would have came after me if I kept staring at him.  The police had to remove him.  When geocaching in the woods, we have come across people who alarmed us. You get a chill going up your back.  And they, muggles, leave beer cans and nip bottles on the ground. Even with the deposit they have to pay for the cans, it doesn't stop them from littering. No respect for nature. I love that geocaching.com has rules and guidelines for caching in the woods and hiding caches. I'm messaging as we speak with someone who is telling me his bad experiences. He said that "humor" gets him through the bad experiences.

[+cerberus1]

21 hours ago, Harry Dolphin said:

 

That's bizarre.  Smokers don't hike?  I do quite a bit of hiking.  It helps keep me in shape.  I've hiked half the AT!  (And carry out my cigarette butts.)

 

Agreed.   I had to learn to slow my stride down so others could keep up.  

 - Insult added to injury when they all know I'm waiting with a smoke in hand.  

I also have a zippo-like ashtray, one that clips on a belt loop, and even put a few collapsible foil ones in caches as swag.  

 

Awful experiences with "muggles"  (new hikers mostly) is when they spray their DEET across them ,  like they're fumigating the entire area too.

One lady acted like she was spraying hairspray, the mist following her feet all around.   She was wearing shorts and no socks.  No spray there...

The other 2/3rds even gagged on that one.

I'm sure to back up from these sprays, having enough materials melted from it's chemicals.

[+BethDaddyKaty]

On 1/22/2020 at 1:32 PM, HunterandSamuel said:

 

Um, the topic, my muggle experiences, are not open for debates.  Just want to let the old timer members (I know you are new) here know this.  If breathing in foul air from cars is your complaint about muggles (read the title of this thread) then say so but don't loop it in with mine. Thank you. 

 

 

It would be a dull discussion forum if we all just shouted our own experiences and didn't engage with others.

 

Some of the stuff here has made me realise my complaints about muggles are somewhat trivial compared to what some experience. Which has made me a better cacher

[+HunterandSamuel]

1 hour ago, BethDaddyKaty said:

It would be a dull discussion forum if we all just shouted our own experiences and didn't engage with others.

 

Some of the stuff here has made me realise my complaints about muggles are somewhat trivial compared to what some experience. Which has made me a better cacher

 

Sure but don't tell me that my experience is less important that yours. That's not what this thread is about.  

[+niraD]

59 minutes ago, HunterandSamuel said:

Sure but don't tell me that my experience is less important that yours. That's not what this thread is about.  

Given that the subject line of the thread is about your worst experience, I think that expecting others not to compare your experiences with others is silly.

 

Back on topic: I think my worst experiences with muggles were probably the vandalism of my first cache (and other nearby caches) by teens with too much time on their hands. Bodily waste was involved. 

[+HunterandSamuel]

8 minutes ago, niraD said:

Given that the subject line of the thread is about your worst experience, I think that expecting others not to compare your experiences with others is silly.

 

No, to compare others experiences as insignificant to their experience is not what this topic is about. Whose experience is the worse. This isn't a competition. Continue on topic. 

[+thebruce0]

Absolutely people will compare their own experience to others' posted, and that doesn't mean it's a competition. They don't have to compare, but people are human, and people will. If it's taken light-heartedly, then it's fun. If it's taken with offense, then it drags everyone down.

 

Also, I think it's fallacious to assume a literal purpose to the thread title, that every single post in this thread must be a person's absolute worst experience ever.  The spirit of the thread is sharing bad experiences.

 

Let's just keep sharing bad experiences. The one I described wasn't "my worst", or at least I won't claim it to be my worst because I'd have to think through my entire caching career and there are many reasons and contexts for an experience being 'bad'. But it was bad, and it's one that came to mind. Was my post off topic?

 

Let's just keep sharing bad experiences. And not be offended if someone claims theirs was worse. Or that there are worse experiences, yeah?

[+HunterandSamuel]

3 minutes ago, thebruce0 said:

Let's just keep sharing bad experiences. And not be offended if someone claims theirs was worse. Or that there are worse experiences, yeah?

 

I agree, lets keep sharing but do not put down others experiences. That is not what this thread is about.