What's with these "bogus" discoveries of my coins????

[+Goldenwattle 1825]

https://www.geocaching.com/track/details.aspx?tracker=TB3J298

I dropped this TB off in 2016, and it went missing shortly after. Now it is getting Discovers. The latest from little-leggs with 3,647 Caches Found compared to 47027 Trackables Logged, "whilst we're in lock down" by their own admittance.

Other 'discovering' this TB since it went missing:

(SOA)

307 Caches Found

16326 Trackables Logged

 

7EVENCachers

3,133 Caches Found

17525 Trackables Logged

 

hennes196911

12,914 Caches Found

31274 Trackables Logged

[+Goldenwattle 1825]

JMVonFange is blatant enough to admit where they 'discovered' this.

https://www.geocaching.com/track/details.aspx?guid=361f2c1b-e563-4d8a-93b2-963a6cf1fd59

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08/Apr/2020	JMVonFange discovered it	Australian Capital Territory, Australia	Visit Log
Discovering these from Nebraska after finding them on various websites - pinterest, geocaching, twitter, instagram, facebook and other various sites from geocachers. Also, may discover multiple times because of being seen in multiple spots."

[+CarSim97 11]

Team MSBMS just logged an other one of our TB's for which the code was posted today on the infamous FB page. Log text: "Découvert durant le confinement du Covid-19.
Bonjour du Nord de la France. Merci pour le partage."  TB locked, log deleted.
 

[Keystone 3818]

You will see that swift action has already been taken regarding this most recent bulk logger.

 

Happy Blue Switch Day.

[+CarSim97 11]

13 minutes ago, Keystone said:

You will see that swift action has already been taken regarding this most recent bulk logger.

 

Happy Blue Switch Day.

Yes, just received two other emails from logs of them on our tb's. And when I wanted to delete the last one, the log was already deleted. Thx Groundspeak for the quick action taken. 

[+The Klever Boys 3]

47 minutes ago, Keystone said:

You will see that swift action has already been taken regarding this most recent bulk logger.

 

Happy Blue Switch Day.

Yes, 13 of mine have now been discovered and the logs are still coming in, but thanks for the prompt action.

I would hope that the account gets locked rather than just logs deleted otherwise they haven't really lost anything...

[+steben6 18]

I am so appreciative of the quick action HQ takes in these cases.  All the logs on my coins were deleted and the loggers account locked.  Thank you!
Happy Blue Switch Day!

[+CarSim97 11]

Was just browsing my FB timeline, and turns out there are more of these FB groups to share TB codes. (How naive I was). Since I'm a member of a geocoin group on FB, it was suggested to me as something I might have interest in. Mind you, these groups haven't shared our codes (yet), but something annoyed me in their group description, which is private by the way, so don't know what and how much they have shared (it started in 2018):

 

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This group is to share trackable codes with other geocachers.
The trackables on this group are not all owned ... some are ones that have been found on our journey.
If a TB owner wants their TB removed ... the owner must send the TB code to be removed.
This group is not to start controversy but rather to share the love of TBs

 

This is the other way round. Not only can't I check if my codes are on there, also when it's posted their, since it's private and can't see the posts, but I shouldn't even have to. Why not share your own TB codes only in that group if you want to? Why should a group member decide to post my code there if they may have seen me in the "wild" and they took a picture of or scribbled down one of my trackable garments?! Since it's a private group I can't contact them to ask them this vary question and don't feel like becoming a member.

 

One other thing:

The infamous public page on FB for which we have had several bogus logs, has this website mentioned on their FB page details: logthemall.org. When you go to that website you can bulk log trackables and at the bottom it reads: Authorized developer for the Groundspeak API, which links to the geocaching profile of Cano. Doubt however that this geocacher knows this FB page link exists and doubt if (s)he wants to be associated with this page....

[+cerberus1 3575]

8 hours ago, CarSim97 said:

This group is to share trackable codes with other geocachers.
The trackables on this group are not all owned ... some are ones that have been found on our journey.
If a TB owner wants their TB removed ... the owner must send the TB code to be removed.
This group is not to start controversy but rather to share the love of TBs

 

Wow.  So these freaks think that if you don't contact them, it's perfectly okay to do this.   Arrogant pieces of carp.

I'd really like see every one of these maggots removed from the hobby. 

Makes you want to rush right out and buy another trackable, doesn't it...

[+CarSim97 11]

And another one of our coins is mentioned on Geocache TB Spoiler Facebookpage. This time our coin is discovered by Schnüffelcarsti. Log deleted and coin locked.

[+Harry Dolphin 1341]

9 hours ago, CarSim97 said:

And another one of our coins is mentioned on Geocache TB Spoiler Facebookpage. This time our coin is discovered by Schnüffelcarsti. Log deleted and coin locked.

 

Yes.  He discovered one of my nephew's geocoins.

[+cerberus1 3575]

Wow.  '18 cacher with over 4000 trackables found (almost 2000 caches too.)   

[+CarSim97 11]

It was silent for quite a while, but just today had another bogus log on one of our TB's. Discovered by this activity, this FB group is still alive and active.

TB locked, deleted the log.

Team name which logged our TB: Tomboy1

[+Goldenwattle 1825]

On 4/26/2020 at 12:55 PM, Goldenwattle said:

JMVonFange is blatant enough to admit where they 'discovered' this.

https://www.geocaching.com/track/details.aspx?guid=361f2c1b-e563-4d8a-93b2-963a6cf1fd59

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08/Apr/2020	JMVonFange discovered it	Australian Capital Territory, Australia	Visit Log
Discovering these from Nebraska after finding them on various websites - pinterest, geocaching, twitter, instagram, facebook and other various sites from geocachers. Also, may discover multiple times because of being seen in multiple spots."

I notice that JMVonFange still not been removed. They discovered a TB in Australia from the USA.

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08/Apr/2020	JMVonFange discovered it	Australian Capital Territory, Australia	Visit Log
Discovering these from Nebraska after finding them on various websites - pinterest, geocaching, twitter, instagram, facebook and other various sites from geocachers. Also, may discover multiple times because of being seen in multiple spots."   may discover multiple times because of being seen in multiple spots

[+thebruce0 2675]

On 8/28/2020 at 1:19 AM, CarSim97 said:

It was silent for quite a while, but just today had another bogus log on one of our TB's. Discovered by this activity, this FB group is still alive and active.

TB locked, deleted the log.

Team name which logged our TB: Tomboy1

 

Got a log from the same user. My first ever mass-logged TB. Emailed hq. I'm opting to leave it unlocked, and maybe 'catch' any other people now.

[+cerberus1 3575]

On 8/28/2020 at 2:13 AM, Goldenwattle said:

I notice that JMVonFange still not been removed. They discovered a TB in Australia from the USA.

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08/Apr/2020	JMVonFange discovered it	Australian Capital Territory, Australia	Visit Log
Discovering these from Nebraska after finding them on various websites - pinterest, geocaching, twitter, instagram, facebook and other various sites from geocachers. Also, may discover multiple times because of being seen in multiple spots."   may discover multiple times because of being seen in multiple spots

 

What would they be removed for ?   

I've  logged  Discover on trackables I spot on the internet (the last with this latest mars rover thing ...2 of 'em) for years, and similar to this cacher, explain in a lot more detail where I saw it.

We've received a lot of email from folks thanking us for taking the time to help them out.    

So far, most were their own photos showing the code right on their trackable's page.  

 

BTW, a trackable is only "counted" once, even though you may find it years later and log it again and again. 

How many people would remember they saw a common trackable ten years earlier ?

[+Goldenwattle 1825]

On 8/28/2020 at 4:13 PM, Goldenwattle said:

I notice that JMVonFange still not been removed. They discovered a TB in Australia from the USA.

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08/Apr/2020	JMVonFange discovered it	Australian Capital Territory, Australia	Visit Log
Discovering these from Nebraska after finding them on various websites - pinterest, geocaching, twitter, instagram, facebook and other various sites from geocachers. Also, may discover multiple times because of being seen in multiple spots."   may discover multiple times because of being seen in multiple spots

I didn't say any of that!

[+thebruce0 2675]

Well, I just came across another 'secret' way of bulk sharing TB codes.  I found this travelbug wherein the owner is hiding private tracking codes in jigidi puzzle solutions.

At least it's not a bulk list like 100's of codes just downloadable and usable. Nonetheless, it looks like people are suggesting TB codes in logs posted to the TB, if not just creating puzzles and linking them there.

 

ETA: smaller scale; but it looks that way. Maybe only a handful here and there. May not be the intent of the TB owner, but posted log content from others.

Edited February 23 by thebruce0

[+crossseeker77 3]

If HQ is against virtual TB discoveries, why did they offer the Mars Rover trackable online for everyone to log?

[+thebruce0 2675]

On 5/22/2021 at 11:39 AM, crossseeker77 said:

If HQ is against virtual TB discoveries, why did they offer the Mars Rover trackable online for everyone to log?

Because the intent of that TB was for virtual discoveries.

If a TB owner intends their TB to be discovered virtually, that's okay.

If a TB owner does not want their TB to be discovered virtually and someone makes that possible, that is not okay.

[+CarSim97 11]

It was silent for a long time again with bogus logs on our trackables, but just today received an e-mail for another bogus log on one of them. Found the TB-code on this FB group again, in an older post this time. It's a wonder we didn't receive earlier logs on it.

TB locked, deleted the log.

Team name which logged our TB: Dromaniax