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51 minutes ago, JeepGPS said:

So I revisited a cache today that I had found 6 years ago. Since then, it has been moved which I thought qualifies it as a new cache. When was this changed? BTW, I didn't find the cache today but I noticed on the log drop-down menu there is no longer a Found It option on previously found caches. 

Yes, you can update the coordinates for a geocache up to a certain distance. You haven't been able to log a find twice for a long time:)

 

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6 hours ago, JeepGPS said:

So I revisited a cache today that I had found 6 years ago.

Since then, it has been moved which I thought qualifies it as a new cache. When was this changed?

 

BTW, I didn't find the cache today but I noticed on the log drop-down menu there is no longer a Found It option on previously found caches. 

 

We moved a 2005 cache 300' in 2007.    Same cache, different location...   :)

We received notice in March 2017 that double logging was going to go bye-bye, and it was finalized in May.

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15 hours ago, JeepGPS said:

So I revisited a cache today that I had found 6 years ago. Since then, it has been moved which I thought qualifies it as a new cache. When was this changed?


It’s been possible to change coords (within limits) for as long as I’ve been playing, and I’d assume since the beginning.  And there’s no distinction between simply correcting inaccurate coordinates and actually moving a cache.

 

Moving a cache and deciding whether or not to re-list, is a judgement call for the CO.  Has the ‘nature’ of the experience changed significantly?  If not, then just updating the coords and retaining the cache's history is reasonable.  If a tree climb has become a gadget cache, re-listing is probably in order.  Plenty of grey in between...

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The problem with geocaching,  once you clean out an area, the game is over for most people.  I live next door to a pokemon point and I been seeing the same people  daily since day one!!  

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On 6/13/2020 at 11:02 PM, SwineFlew said:

The problem with geocaching,  once you clean out an area, the game is over for most people. 

 

We began geocaching in March 2017, and pretty much "cached out" our local area in 2018 when we set a goal to find a cache each and every day.  Things slowed for us considerably in 2019, but did not STOP.  The game is far from over for us, as we cache when we travel - just this past weekend I was on the East Coast and added 4 new states to my stats.  And we hide caches for others to find, and local cachers are hiding new caches - we are lucky to live in an area with an active geocaching community.

 

Back on topic, I don't see a need for a "revisit" log type - unless you are all about stats.  If I need a +1 as an incentive to revisit an area/cache, well, I just don't see the point.  Caching has helped us to visit and discover new places that are worth revisiting all on their own, smilie or not.  If the only reason I am going to "revisit" someplace is to log another visit/stat, then no thanks!  Maybe Waymarking will suit, as I believe you can revisit the same waymark multiple times.

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On 6/14/2020 at 4:02 PM, SwineFlew said:

The problem with geocaching,  once you clean out an area, the game is over for most people. 

I agree with CAVinoGal, unless it's just numbers you are after this isn't necessary, as you can revisit as much as you like, whether you bother to make a write note or not. In a sense, during the stay at home suggestion for Covid 19 (where I live it was just a suggestion, but fortunately we got it down to zero), I was visiting my own caches to check up on them. I didn't get an extra number for visiting my own cache, but I was okay with this, as it was an exercise outing and pleasant to visit these areas again. Even the one in a grotty alleyway, as the bike ride there was pleasant.

 

I suppose for normal times when I can get about I am spoiled for caches, as locally they keep getting published and I can't keep up with them. I like travelling though, and I do find a lot of caches while away from home. I am about to go for another short trip away in my car, taking my mother on a trip to where she was born. I shall be caching going and coming.

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Ideally I'd like to live in a geocaching utopia where the number of new caches is the same as my find rate, even better if the archival rate is about the same too so the region would never become saturated or depleted. When I started caching in 2013 that was pretty much the case as there were well over a hundred new caches being published each year in my region, but in the last few years that's dried up to just a trickle and, having found nearly all the local caches, most of my cache-finding trips now are further afield.

 

In the current Memory Lane promotion I've so far scored 170 points from 24 finds, all but one of which were more than 50km from home as the crow flies and an hour and a half's drive. The exception was a new one near Cowan on the Sydney side of the Hawkesbury River, 11km from home in a straight line but just over 40km by road.

 

5 hours ago, Goldenwattle said:

I agree with CAVinoGal, unless it's just numbers you are after this isn't necessary, as you can revisit as much as you like, whether you bother to make a write note or not. In a sense, during the stay at home suggestion for Covid 19 (where I live it was just a suggestion, but fortunately we got it down to zero), I was visiting my own caches to check up on them. I didn't get an extra number for visiting my own cache, but I was okay with this, as it was an exercise outing and pleasant to visit these areas again. Even the one in a grotty alleyway, as the bike ride there was pleasant.

 

During the lock-down here, all non-essential travel was prohibited and we were only allowed exercise in our local area, so for me much of that was walking the local bushland trails and checking on my caches that happened to be along the way. I also kept an eye out for possible new cache locations and, since the restrictions were eased late last month, I've had two published (GC8RTKC and GC8TAFN).

 

With 40 active hides, a lot of my caching activity now is doing routine visits to those, with the remainder being trips away to either Newcastle or Sydney and the occasional new cache that pops up closer to home.

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I'm glad I'm not like "most people" (if that's really true), I've passed hundreds of caches in "my area" for ones I'll do outside of it for about ten years now.  :)

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On 6/18/2020 at 10:44 PM, cerberus1 said:

I'm glad I'm not like "most people" (if that's really true), I've passed hundreds of caches in "my area" for ones I'll do outside of it for about ten years now.  :)

 

LOL. This. I pass more caches on a cache outing than I actually find. A sweet problem to have I guess.

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On 6/14/2020 at 8:02 AM, SwineFlew said:

The problem with geocaching,  once you clean out an area, the game is over for most people.  I live next door to a pokemon point and I been seeing the same people  daily since day one!!  

 

And that is exactly the point. If "revisiting" was a thing, it would extend the game's longevity for many people. Just being able to make a log by revisiting caches once after over 2 years is a mild extension in comparison.

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On 6/12/2020 at 6:04 AM, cerberus1 said:

We received notice in March 2017 that double logging was going to go bye-bye, and it was finalized in May.

 

Removing double loggging is a logical move, because the second visit should not count as a find but as a revisit. However, revisiting after several years is often more exciting that you may expect.

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5 minutes ago, Ragnemalm said:

Removing double loggging is a logical move, because the second visit should not count as a find but as a revisit.

However, revisiting after several years is often more exciting that you may expect.

 

I've "revisited" areas numerous times, as explained back on page one...

We note areas that are unique, or present hunting/fishing opportunities, and stop when seasons/time permit. 

When we "revisit" that area, I might stop at a cache there if I have the time, letting the CO know if it's still in play... and that's it.

 

Finding the same caches numerous times isn't why we're there...

 

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2 hours ago, Ragnemalm said:

However, revisiting after several years is often more exciting that you may expect.

Go for it! I've revisited a number of caches that I had found previously. I've even logged my revisits (using the existing Write Note functionality).

 

I've also revisited parks and other locations multiple times, finding a cache or two at a time. I like that approach much better than finding a couple dozen caches in a day and "clearing out" the park. But if you're into "clearing out" a park, then you have to expect that you won't be able to find as many new caches in that park later.

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