+QuesterMark 2 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 The concept of an "urban legend" as known in the USA appears to be impossible to explain to folks who have something other than English as their first language, and difficult to many other people. Of the submissions to the Urban Legends category almost none that are submitted are actually urban legends and a large number of the waymarks that have gotten approved one way or the other over the years aren't urban legends either. I asked the officers what they thought about trying to adapt the category to handle the legends that are generally submitted and got no response at all. So now I'm throwing it out to the forums. Reply with some suggestions to rework the category to handle "normal" legends as well as urban legends. Here's the category for convenience: https://www.Waymarking.com/cat/details.aspx?f=1&guid=ff570b23-a81a-46e5-b2a5-48f9096a6605&gid=6 Quote Link to post
+elyob 168 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) I can see your concerns. While hoping that the waymarkers won't take offense, can you list some examples that (in your opinion) should not have been approved but will be fine for the new requirements that we have yet to draft? Edited November 3, 2019 by elyob Quote Link to post
+Alfouine 111 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 I had few waymarks declined in this category because there were not urban legends. According to me it was urban legend, but a legend of more than thousand years. When we read the wikipedia page, they say that urban legend existed in primitive and traditionnal society, and that can exist nowadays. So why decline medieval times urban legend ? The last waymark legend declined in this category are Urban legends, except if you only want modern urban legend, but it's a non sence, urban legend exists since the world exists Quote Link to post
+elyob 168 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, Alfouine said: I had few waymarks declined in this category because there were not urban legends. According to me it was urban legend, but a legend of more than thousand years. When we read the wikipedia page, they say that urban legend existed in primitive and traditionnal society, and that can exist nowadays. So why decline medieval times urban legend ? The last waymark legend declined in this category are Urban legends, except if you only want modern urban legend, but it's a non sence, urban legend exists since the world exists That is the difference of meaning QuesterMark is trying to explain. That is not how urban legends are understood in North America. Urban legends are contemporary and modern. The term "urban legends" only dates back to the 1960s. Quote Link to post
+elyob 168 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 What about a very simple revision, remove the word "urban" from the category descriptions? Quote Link to post
+Loonwatcher 7 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Interesting proposal David. So if we drop "Urban" and simply keep "Legends and Superstitions", although we expand the category, I think this would add even mor confusion. ie: I consider Maurice Richard a hockey legend by his own right, or the same with Wild Bill Hickok - now we could discuss legend vs hero! Urban legends are what they are: fictional stories often rooted in local history and popular culture. Quote Link to post
+elyob 168 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 23 hours ago, Loonwatcher said: Interesting proposal David. So if we drop "Urban" and simply keep "Legends and Superstitions", although we expand the category, I think this would add even mor confusion. ie: I consider Maurice Richard a hockey legend by his own right, or the same with Wild Bill Hickok - now we could discuss legend vs hero! Urban legends are what they are: fictional stories often rooted in local history and popular culture. Agreed. Quote Link to post
+Loonwatcher 7 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 So if we reworded to "Legendary Stories and Superstitions"? How would that be perceived? 1 1 Quote Link to post
+Alfouine 111 Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 As an excellent idea Quote Link to post
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