+kunarion Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, bflentje said: Finding PMO caches is that LAST reason on my list of why I personally pay for PMO. Your daughter may have something to say about that. 1 Quote Link to comment
+rapotek Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 3 hours ago, MartyBartfast said: Wow that's quite ingenious and for anyone doing it that way I admire their/your creativity and tenacity. You would be going on the hunt with possibly fuzzy co-ordinates, little detail about the cache container, and no hint, so as far as I'm concerned if you find caches like this then you surely deserve the smiley! If I recall correctly, I found 6 caches basing on "fuzzy" coordinates (which turned out to be not so fuzzy). Not so many, but PMO caches are in definite minority here, anyway. I admit, it is a kind of a challenge to find something with only that information available, so I did not assume I found anything. As for work put in to calculate coordinates: I am so bad in searching in the field that any helpful information can make a difference between "found it" and "did not found". 1 Quote Link to comment
+niraD Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, bflentje said: Finding PMO caches is that LAST reason on my list of why I personally pay for PMO. I definitely value other premium features a LOT more than access to PMO caches. And actually, I don't really think of it as access to PMO caches, but freedom from worrying about whether or not a cache is PMO. 1 Quote Link to comment
+rapotek Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, niraD said: I definitely value other premium features a LOT more than access to PMO caches. And actually, I don't really think of it as access to PMO caches, but freedom from worrying about whether or not a cache is PMO. I decided to go for premium mainly because of ignore list being a PMO feature, but I make use of other advantages too. But I still "worry" whether a cache is PMO, not because of listing availability, but because of mentioned somewhere on the forum feature allowing a CO to spy who enters a cache listing. Knowing that my reading a listing is noticed by a CO is a little unnerving. 1 Quote Link to comment
+niraD Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, rapotek said: Knowing that my reading a listing is noticed by a CO is a little unnerving. I guess I view that issue a little differently. I can neither confirm nor deny taking deliberate action to view all of a CO's caches when said CO mentioned in the forums that the audit log provided useful information. And I can neither confirm nor deny doing so multiple times. 3 Quote Link to comment
+TeamRabbitRun Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Although I use a bunch of PM features, I never consider access to PMO caches a major reason to pay - I just don't cache that often, and there are relatively few around here, anyway. I pay for PM because I play the game and use the servers, app & website 1 Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, rapotek said: But I still "worry" whether a cache is PMO, not because of listing availability, but because of mentioned somewhere on the forum feature allowing a CO to spy who enters a cache listing. Usually it doesn’t bother me. I occasionally check my cache’s audit log, to see if there’s a lot of interest... or to see if nobody intends to come. Just for my information. But, yeah, when it’s a cache of one of the local self-described super-villains, I tread lightly. It’s the COs who make a special cache log if there are a lot of audit hits. You’re being watched and they make sure you know that. Quote Link to comment
+Touchstone Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 22 minutes ago, kunarion said: Usually it doesn’t bother me. I occasionally check my cache’s audit log, to see if there’s a lot of interest... or to see if nobody intends to come. Just for my information. But, yeah, when it’s a cache of one of the local self-described super-villains, I tread lightly. It’s the COs who make a special cache log if there are a lot of audit hits. You’re being watched and they make sure you know that. Interesting discussion on the audit log and how to avoid being "seen": Quote Link to comment
+cerberus1 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 hours ago, rapotek said: I decided to go for premium mainly because of ignore list being a PMO feature, but I make use of other advantages too. But I still "worry" whether a cache is PMO, not because of listing availability, but because of mentioned somewhere on the forum feature allowing a CO to spy who enters a cache listing. Knowing that my reading a listing is noticed by a CO is a little unnerving. We became PM just for notifications, and use little extra still today. If you do PQs, use gsak, or simply use a phone (anything that keeps you off the site), you don't get added to a CO's "audit". Quote Link to comment
+bflentje Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 27 minutes ago, kunarion said: Usually it doesn’t bother me. I occasionally check my cache’s audit log, to see if there’s a lot of interest... or to see if nobody intends to come. Just for my information. But, yeah, when it’s a cache of one of the local self-described super-villains, I tread lightly. It’s the COs who make a special cache log if there are a lot of audit hits. You’re being watched and they make sure you know that. But what can they possibly do with that information.. so what if you look at a cache listing. I look at dozens of them a day. 1 Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 4 hours ago, bflentje said: Finding PMO caches is that LAST reason on my list of why I personally pay for PMO. It's the penultimate reason for me, with audit logs holding the last spot. 1 Quote Link to comment
+rapotek Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just to summarize the audit logs issue, see this announcement from HQ 1 Quote Link to comment
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