ISS Passes June and July 2019

[+Max and 99]

Unless I made a mistake looking at all the charts and locations, the following are some possibilities. I know that July 20 is the BIG date in space history, but July 19 is quite important too!

 

July 18:

OKC: 5:23:49, 67º, -3.9  * I think I have a partner for this, IF I can convince them to not go to sleep the night before or get up really early!

WA: 3:17:56, 80º, -4.0

 

July 19:

OKC: 4:33:55, 59º, -3.3 *I think I have a partner for this

WA: 2:28:00, 73ºm -3.6

 

July 19:

OKC: 4:33:55, 59º, -3.3

Trail, BC: 2:28:38, 70º, -4.0

 

July 19: (elyob, are you interested in a waymark partnership?)

OKC: 21:13:11, 80º, -3.6

ON: 22:17:20, 56º, -3.1

Edited June 12, 2019 by Max and 99

[+elyob]

1 hour ago, Max and 99 said:

Unless I made a mistake looking at all the charts and locations, the following are some possibilities. I know that July 20 is the BIG date in space history, but July 19 is quite important too!

 

July 18:

OKC: 5:23:49, 67º, -3.9  * I think I have a partner for this, IF I can convince them to not go to sleep the night before or get up really early!

WA: 3:17:56, 80º, -4.0

 

July 19:

OKC: 4:33:55, 58º, -3.3 *I think I have a partner for this

WA: 2:28:00, 73ºm -3.6

 

July 19:

OKC: 4:33:55, 59º, -3.3

Trail, BC: 2:28:38, 70º, -4.0

 

July 19: (elyob, are you interested in a waymark partnership?)

OKC: 21:13:11, 80º, -3.6

ON: 22:17:20, 56º, -3.1

 

Marking calendar.

[+8Nuts MotherGoose]

4 hours ago, Max and 99 said:

July 19:

OKC: 4:33:55, 59º, -3.3 *I think I have a partner for this

WA: 2:28:00, 73ºm -3.6

 

July 19:

OKC: 4:33:55, 59º, -3.3

Trail, BC: 2:28:38, 70º, -4.0

Max and 99 - Are you going to partner with two people on one Pass where the two people are too close to each other (less than 1 minute of flight time)?

We have had one such Pass in the past that was accepted after a long discussion by the Group Officers.

THE FACTS DISCOVERED BY THE OFFICERS:

A. The main object of this Category is to get people outside to observe an ISS Pass, and to have a partner at least 293 miles away along the flight path. This helps the partners understand just how fast the ISS is moving.

B. Neither of the close persons had ever created an ISS Waymark. This was a new experience for both. The 3rd party was also new at creating a Waymark.

WHAT WAS DECIDED BY THE OFFICERS:

1. Persons 1 & 2 could each create a Waymark if they observed the ISS according to the guidelines. Since they were first to observe the ISS along it's path, their Waymarks would be labeled Site 1A and Site 1B.

2. The third person, located more than 1 minute of flight time away, could create one (1) Waymark if they observed the ISS according to the guidelines. In that Waymark, the 3rd person would have to list the required information for both of his partners. His Waymark would be labeled as Site 2. He can claim a Visit to only one (1) of his partners Waymarks. ( We also realize the sites could be reversed with a Site 1, Site 2A, and Site 2B.)

3. If one of the two close people has created an ISS Waymark in the past, he should step aside and assist the new person to create the Waymark. He can still post a Visit if he meets the requirements.

THE REASONING BEHIND THE DECISIONS:

1 Top priority is to encourage and assist new people to observe the ISS Pass with a partner who is a long distance away. Bend the rules one (1) time for a new person. If a new person finds a partner 280 miles away instead of the required minimum of 293 miles, we can accept that once. When he creates a Waymark, he is now an experienced Waymarker and all rules apply.

2. One (1) Waymark per person per ISS Pass. If we allowed Site 2 above to create two (2) Waymarks on one pass, that would open the door to many multiple Waymarks on one pass. Imagine a single Pass with 4 observers - A, B, C, & D. Instead of 4 Waymarks in a series; A-B-C-D, we would have 12 Waymarks in parallel; A-B, A-C, A-D, B-C, B-D, C-D.

 

These decisions were never included in the Waymarking Instruction because we had an inactive Leader and we were locked out from making changes.

THAT HAS NOW CHANGED. Iowa Tom, the Creator of this Category, has recently stepped down and allowed me to become Leader. New Officers have been installed and we will soon begin the task of rewriting the Category page with easier to understand instructions. The Basic rules will not change.

 

[+Max and 99]

7 hours ago, Max and 99 said:

Unless I made a mistake looking at all the charts and locations, the following are some possibilities. I know that July 20 is the BIG date in space history, but July 19 is quite important too!

 

July 18:

OKC: 5:23:49, 67º, -3.9  * I think I have a partner for this, IF I can convince them to not go to sleep the night before or get up really early!

WA: 3:17:56, 80º, -4.0

 

July 19:

OKC: 4:33:55, 58º, -3.3 *I think I have a partner for this

WA: 2:28:00, 73ºm -3.6

 

July 19:

OKC: 4:33:55, 59º, -3.3

Trail, BC: 2:28:38, 70º, -4.0

 

July 19: (elyob, are you interested in a waymark partnership?)

OKC: 21:13:11, 80º, -3.6

ON: 22:17:20, 56º, -3.1

All my planned passes are distinct. I posted the extra info to help others looking for partners.

Edited June 13, 2019 by Max and 99

[+Max and 99]

Has anyone viewed Jupiter and its moon this month? You only need binoculars!

[+elyob]

Your list above shows a Washington partner and a British Columbia partner on the same pass.

[+Max and 99]

8 minutes ago, elyob said:

Your list above shows a Washington partner and a British Columbia partner on the same pass.

Yes it does. And it's the only pass I'm not mentioned as a partner. It is up for grabs.

[+T0SHEA]

10 hours ago, Max and 99 said:

July 19:

OKC: 4:33:55, 59º, -3.3

Trail, BC: 2:28:38, 70º, -4.0

We'll be crossing our fingers for this one!!

Just got home from a 4,000 klik trip and have a lot of pic sorting and naming to do. We'll have a look at this pass when we take a break.

Keith

[+Max and 99]

2 hours ago, BK-Hunters said:

We'll be crossing our fingers for this one!!

Just got home from a 4,000 klik trip and have a lot of pic sorting and naming to do. We'll have a look at this pass when we take a break.

Keith

I may be able to recruit my son if you can't find a partner. Maybe.

[vulture1957]

Looks like I have a partner for the evening Jul 19 pass in Missouri. kJfishman.

I could try to get my lazy butt out of bed in the early morning to pair with BKHunters if they decide to play.

 

So, 8Nuts. If I post a waymark on a pass, can I also use that sighting to post a visit on the same pass that Max & 99 post? Or just one waymark per pass?

[+8Nuts MotherGoose]

13 hours ago, Max and 99 said:

Has anyone viewed Jupiter and its moon this month? You only need binoculars!

My eyes aren't good enough to see those moons with binoculars any more. I used to see them. I think the story about this is a big Hype. Every year when the Earth and Jupiter are in conjunction, you can see the Moons with binoculars.

 

[+8Nuts MotherGoose]

19 minutes ago, vulture1957 said:

Looks like I have a partner for the evening Jul 19 pass in Missouri. kJfishman.

I could try to get my lazy butt out of bed in the early morning to pair with BKHunters if they decide to play.

 

So, 8Nuts. If I post a waymark on a pass, can I also use that sighting to post a visit on the same pass that Max & 99 post? Or just one waymark per pass?

One(1) Waymark created per Pass and one(1) Visit per Pass. Your Visit can be to your Partners Waymark, OR you can Visit the nearest Waymark of the same Pass created by someone else.

 

[+Max and 99]

1 minute ago, 8Nuts MotherGoose said:

One(1) Waymark created per Pass and one(1) Visit per Pass. Your Visit can be to your Partners Waymark, OR you can Visit the nearest Waymark of the same Pass created by someone else.

 

The instructions say you can visit your own waymark of the pass. So if you do, you can't post a visit to the nearest waymark of the same pass because that would now make two visits?.

[+8Nuts MotherGoose]

1 minute ago, Max and 99 said:

The instructions say you can visit your own waymark of the pass. So if you do, you can't post a visit to the nearest waymark of the same pass because that would now make two visits?.

I have to retract what I said above.

In Waymarking, you can visit your own Waymark in all Categories. It's a Basic Waymarking rule.
In this Category, you are allowed that second Visit because you have to work with a Partner to create Waymarks. The Category rules say you can also post a Visit to your Partners nearest Waymark.

The Category rules also say you can Visit the nearest Waymark of another groups efforts if you observed the same Pass. It says nothing about that Pass being the same as the one you Waymarked or whether you can or can not post a Visit. So, at this time, there is no rule. Post your 3rd Visit if you choose to. The Officers will discuss this as we Update the page.

 

[+Max and 99]

10 minutes ago, 8Nuts MotherGoose said:

I have to retract what I said above.

In Waymarking, you can visit your own Waymark in all Categories. It's a Basic Waymarking rule.
In this Category, you are allowed that second Visit because you have to work with a Partner to create Waymarks. The Category rules say you can also post a Visit to your Partners nearest Waymark.

The Category rules also say you can Visit the nearest Waymark of another groups efforts if you observed the same Pass. It says nothing about that Pass being the same as the one you Waymarked or whether you can or can not post a Visit. So, at this time, there is no rule. Post your 3rd Visit if you choose to. The Officers will discuss this as we Update the page.

 

Yikes! Your work is cut out for you!

[+T0SHEA]

On 6/13/2019 at 11:22 AM, vulture1957 said:

Looks like I have a partner for the evening Jul 19 pass in Missouri. kJfishman.

I could try to get my lazy butt out of bed in the early morning to pair with BKHunters if they decide to play.

 

So, 8Nuts. If I post a waymark on a pass, can I also use that sighting to post a visit on the same pass that Max & 99 post? Or just one waymark per pass?

So, Vulture, the more the merrier!!! We'll have a closer look at the situation when we get closer to July 19, but, if it works for us we'll definitely be out looking for it.

Funny thing is that I've seen it several times just sitting outside enjoying the night air, when the trajectory doesn't include any other WMers who partake of the forums.

Keith

[+Max and 99]

On 6/12/2019 at 4:18 PM, Max and 99 said:

 

 

July 18:

OKC: 5:23:49, 67º, -3.9  * I think I have a partner for this, IF I can convince them to not go to sleep the night before or get up really early!

WA: 3:17:56, 80º, -4.0

 

July 19:

OKC: 4:33:55, 59º, -3.3 *I think I have a partner for this

WA: 2:28:00, 73ºm -3.6

 

July 19: (elyob, are you interested in a waymark partnership?)

OKC: 21:13:11, 80º, -3.6

ON: 22:17:20, 56º, -3.1

 

July 19: elyob confirmed.

 

I am adding:

July 16 evening pass with elyob and hopefully alfouine: Ontario and Spain. Update: not France.

 

July 15 evening pass with Spain

 

Sidehopper: July 16, evening possibly with Spain

Edited June 21, 2019 by Max and 99

[+Alfouine]

Hello, 

 

The 17th, it's only 35° for me

 

here what i could watch :

 

Date Luminosité Début Culmination Fin Type de passage (mag) Heure Elev Az Heure Elev Az Heure Elev Az 11 juil. -3,0 02:24:25 41° E 02:24:25 41° E 02:26:47 10° ENE visible 11 juil. -2,6 03:57:12 11° O 04:00:16 42° N 04:03:28 10° ENE visible 12 juil. -1,5 01:36:07 16° E 01:36:07 16° E 01:36:59 10° ENE visible 12 juil. -3,0 03:08:55 26° O 03:10:28 52° NNO 03:13:44 10° ENE visible 12 juil. -2,3 04:44:23 10° ONO 04:47:32 38° N 04:50:39 10° ENE visible 13 juil. -3,6 02:20:31 67° NO 02:20:42 69° NNO 02:24:01 10° ENE visible 13 juil. -2,3 03:54:34 10° ONO 03:57:41 37° N 04:00:49 10° ENE visible 13 juil. -3,1 05:31:24 10° ONO 05:34:42 60° NNE 05:37:58 10° E visible 14 juil. -2,9 01:31:59 42° ENE 01:31:59 42° ENE 01:34:17 10° ENE visible 14 juil. -2,4 03:04:44 10° ONO 03:07:50 39° N 03:11:00 10° ENE visible 14 juil. -2,7 04:41:40 10° ONO 04:44:54 47° NNE 04:48:07 10° E visible 15 juil. -2,1 00:43:05 23° E 00:43:05 23° E 00:44:31 10° ENE visible 15 juil. -2,7 02:15:48 18° O 02:18:00 45° NNO 02:21:13 10° ENE visible 15 juil. -2,4 03:51:53 10° ONO 03:55:04 40° N 03:58:13 10° E visible 15 juil. -3,9 05:28:35 10° ONO 05:31:54 76° SSO 05:35:12 10° ESE visible 15 juil. -2,4 23:52:54 24° E 23:52:54 24° E 23:54:39 10° ENE visible 16 juil. -3,2 01:25:21 13° O 01:28:09 56° NNO 01:31:27 10° ENE visible 16 juil. -2,2 03:02:03 10° ONO 03:05:11 37° N 03:08:19 10° ENE visible 16 juil. -3,6 04:38:49 10° ONO 04:42:08 74° NNE 04:45:27 10° ESE visible 16 juil. -2,5 22:59:21 10° SSO 23:01:59 22° SE 23:04:37 10° E visible 17 juil. -3,7 00:35:01 10° OSO 00:38:21 77° NNO 00:41:42 10° ENE visible 17 juil. -2,3 02:12:09 10° ONO 02:15:18 37° N 02:18:26 10° ENE visible 17 juil. -3,1 03:49:03 10° ONO 03:52:20 55° NNE 03:55:36 10° E visible 17 juil. -3,2 05:25:50 10° ONO 05:28:55 35° SO 05:31:57 10° SSE visible 17 juil. -3,9 23:45:15 10° OSO 23:48:35 73° SSE 23:51:54 10° ENE visible 18 juil. -2,4 01:22:14 10° O 01:25:24 41° N 01:28:35 10° ENE visible 18 juil. -2,6 02:59:16 10° ONO 03:02:29 44° NNE 03:05:41 10° E visible 18 juil. -3,8 04:35:57 10° ONO 04:39:13 57° SSO 04:42:28 10° SE visible 18 juil. -3,6 22:55:37 10° SO 22:58:51 46° SSE 23:02:04 10° ENE visible 19 juil. -2,8 00:32:16 10° O 00:35:32 48° NNO 00:38:46 10° ENE visible 19 juil. -2,3 02:09:25 10° ONO 02:12:35 39° N 02:15:44 10° ENE visible 19 juil. -3,9 03:46:07 10° ONO 03:49:28 86° SSO 03:52:47 10° ESE visible 19 juil. -2,2 05:23:32 10° O 05:25:43 16° SO 05:27:53 10° S visible 19 juil. -3,3 23:42:20 10° OSO 23:45:39 62° NNO 23:48:58 10° ENE visible 20 juil. -2,2 01:19:31 10° ONO 01:22:40 37° N 01:25:48 10° ENE visible 20 juil. -3,5 02:56:20 10° ONO 02:59:39 67° NNE 03:01:36 22° E visible 20 juil. -1,6 04:33:16 10° O 04:38:53 10° SSE 04:38:55 10° SSE visible 20 juil. -3,8 22:52:28 10° OSO 22:55:49 87° NNO 22:59:10 10° ENE visible

[+Max and 99]

Alfouine,

My husband says he's sorry. He heard me say "Cours" instead of "Tours". Sorry!

[+Alfouine]

1 minute ago, Max and 99 said:

Alfouine,

My husband says he's sorry. He heard me say "Cours" instead of "Tours". Sorry!

No problem, Saint Georges sur Cher is better than Tours, that's my town

[+8Nuts MotherGoose]

On 6/20/2019 at 12:03 AM, Max and 99 said:

I am adding:

July 16 evening pass with elyob and hopefully alfouine: Ontario and Spain

One Pass before this one. The ISS will be passing over Florida at 21:35 pm. It will pass the south tip of Ireland and Great Britain before passing just north of Paris at 03:52 am and southwest of Vienna at 03:54 am on July 17th. 

I'm just making everyone aware. I can't view it, so find your own partners.

[+8Nuts MotherGoose]

I have an ISS Pass on July 17 at 21:19 75° NW in Donna, TX. It will pass Dallas, TX at 21:21, 52° SE. It will pass on the U.S. side of Lake Erie and Lake Ontario. It will then cross the Atlantic into July 18. It will pass Tours, France at 04:39, 57° SSW, and pass Barcelona, Spain at 04:40, 54° NNE.

Times and Altitude will drift a little as we get closer to the Pass Date.

[+Max and 99]

I am so afraid of missing out on an ISS partnership that i set up. I've got a big list posted in the house, but still.... things happen.

If I have one set up with anyone watching this thread, feel free to send me a message to confirm.

[+bluesnote]

On 6/21/2019 at 3:56 PM, 8Nuts MotherGoose said:

One Pass before this one. The ISS will be passing over Florida at 21:35 pm. It will pass the south tip of Ireland and Great Britain before passing just north of Paris at 03:52 am and southwest of Vienna at 03:54 am on July 17th. 

I'm just making everyone aware. I can't view it, so find your own partners.

 

Dang, I was just in central Florida a few days ago. I’m back home now in the LA area for the remainder of the summer before going back to DC for school. If there are any passes in SoCal in the foseeable future, I’m happy to assist.

[vulture1957]

there is a pass late Jul 15th that looks like it may be one of the passes that stays visible from the US to Europe. Can anyone see a better track? Goes over Oklahoma City area at 50 degrees at 11:05 pm

[+Max and 99]

2 hours ago, vulture1957 said:

there is a pass late Jul 15th that looks like it may be one of the passes that stays visible from the US to Europe. Can anyone see a better track? Goes over Oklahoma City area at 50 degrees at 11:05 pm

I have a partner in Spain for that pass. Confirmed that it is visible in U.S. And Europe.

[vulture1957]

On 7/13/2019 at 12:01 PM, vulture1957 said:

there is a pass late Jul 15th that looks like it may be one of the passes that stays visible from the US to Europe. Can anyone see a better track? Goes over Oklahoma City area at 50 degrees at 11:05 pm

I was out there, but I forgot that it was only 50 degrees and to the west. I was looking for a much higher pass, and I guess it was behind the big oak tree. Missed it.

[+8Nuts MotherGoose]

On 7/13/2019 at 2:22 PM, Max and 99 said:

I have a partner in Spain for that pass. Confirmed that it is visible in U.S. And Europe.

It was only 15° Max Alt to my NW. Too much haze in the air to see it that low.

[+8Nuts MotherGoose]

I am looking for partners for the evening of July 17 in North America, and the early morning hours of July 18 in Europe.

The ISS passes over the USA on the south side of Lake Erie and Lake Ontario at about 10:30 pm. It then crosses the Atlantic and passes 52° SSW of Tours, France at 04:45 am on the morning of July 18. It continues along the France / Spain border and passes SW of Italy.

 

[vulture1957]

it's only 40 degrees here

 

[+elyob]

I was thinking of visiting a waymark of the ISS pass tomorrow night but I could attempt to partner if required.  Ottawa will be at 74° on that pass.

[+Max and 99]

20 minutes ago, elyob said:

I was thinking of visiting a waymark of the ISS pass tomorrow night but I could attempt to partner if required.  Ottawa will be at 74° on that pass.

Is it the same pass as Oklahoma and Spain? I'll go get my notes.

 

Edit: Nevermind. Tonight, July 16,  is our partnership with Spain. Oklahoma - Ottawa - Spain.

 

Evening of July 17: Too low for central Oklahoma.

Edited July 16, 2019 by Max and 99

[+elyob]

It is the same pass for me, 22h32 at max.

 

[+Alfouine]

4:45 pm will be too early for me, sorry

[+Max and 99]

13 minutes ago, Alfouine said:

4:45 pm will be too early for me, sorry

Too early?

[+Alfouine]

Yes Too early, i will be working but i am not sure i would see anything with the sun and blue sky...

and 4:45 am would be also too early but not for the same reason...

[+elyob]

It will soon be time to watch the skies.

[+Max and 99]

Don't miss it, Vulture. This is a special day in space history.

[+8Nuts MotherGoose]

24 minutes ago, elyob said:

It will soon be time to watch the skies.

Only 28° for me. Sky looks much clearer tonight. I'm heading outdoors now to to acclimate my night vision and give it a try.

[vulture1957]

I missed it!

 

[+8Nuts MotherGoose]

I saw it. Spotted it at WNW just before Max altitude at NW. Watched it fad in and out of haze until Due North. Then it disappeared. I couldn't see any stars below 45°.

[+8Nuts MotherGoose]

10 hours ago, elyob said:

It is the same pass for me, 22h32 at max.

 

That works for me, Partner.
I'm still looking for another partner in France / Spain that can wake up early and observe the ISS around 4:45 am on July 18.

[+elyob]

Max and 99, my waymark-in-the-making is WM10ZF8.

 

8Nuts MotherGoose, I hope to see you out there tomorrow night.

[+Max and 99]

53 minutes ago, elyob said:

Max and 99, my waymark-in-the-making is WM10ZF8.

 

8Nuts MotherGoose, I hope to see you out there tomorrow night.

Our waymark is just waiting for confirmation from Spain.

[+Outspoken1]

I'm in Denver, Colorado, if that would be of help to anyone. I am willing to get up early, if need be.

[vulture1957]

8 minutes ago, Outspoken1 said:

I'm in Denver, Colorado, if that would be of help to anyone. I am willing to get up early, if need be.

there is one coming up 5 Aug at 21:58 that goes from Denver to mid-Oklahoma, if you'd like to participate.

Vulture in Bethany OK

 

[+Max and 99]

Tonight's pass over OKC was phenomenal! Beautiful blue sky with bright ISS and Jupiter. Just perfect! Only 40°, though. I'm pretty sure a bat grazed my head.

[+8Nuts MotherGoose]

A perfect night for observing the sky. Not a cloud in sight. Haze isn't bad at all.

 

8Nuts MotherGoose observed the ISS reach its Max Altitude at 21:25:07 CDT at 60° to the NW.

WM10ZK8 created.

[+elyob]

The only clouds obstructing my view were clouds of bugs.

 

[+Max and 99]

Correction:

My July 18 early morning partner fell thru so I'm available. 05:34:08

 

I have a FL partner for early morning July 19, 04:44:47, but my NW  partner fell through. 

Edited July 18, 2019 by Max and 99