+Wet_Ground Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) Can some one explain the abbreviations in geocaching I only was able to figer out a small few such as BYOP, SAWG, TFTH etc.. Edited May 22, 2019 by Wet_Ground typo Quote Link to comment
+Michaelcycle Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Wet_Ground said: Can some one explain the abbreviations in geocaching I only was able to figer out a small few such as BYOP, SAWG, TFTH etc.. The Glossary is a good place to start. Acronyms is another. Edited May 22, 2019 by Michaelcycle 4 Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I wish I had known about ICT (and the acronym glossary) when I first cached in the UK. Quote Link to comment
+GeoElmo6000 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I made a trivia video at a local mega event and included a bunch of acronyms as well as some geocaching history and cache types. The acronym list that Michaelcycle posted is awesome; I'll have to incorporate some of those into some future trivia challenge. In case you're interested, see how you do in this geocaching trivia quiz. 1 Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 2 hours ago, GeoElmo6000 said: I made a trivia video at a local mega event and included a bunch of acronyms as well as some geocaching history and cache types. The acronym list that Michaelcycle posted is awesome; I'll have to incorporate some of those into some future trivia challenge. In case you're interested, see how you do in this geocaching trivia quiz. The only one that I didn't know was the location of the first event cache. I know that it has been mentioned here but I just wasn't paying attention. Quote Link to comment
+allardjd Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Newbie! I've run into these in logs and can't find an explanation in the glossary or Acronyms list. I have a suspicion they'll be forehead-slappers once someone tells me what they mean. AIP AIW Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, allardjd said: Newbie! I've run into these in logs and can't find an explanation in the glossary or Acronyms list. I have a suspicion they'll be forehead-slappers once someone tells me what they mean. AIP AIW Clueless! All is well? Quote Link to comment
+colleda Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Max and 99 said: Clueless! All is well? AIP All in place? Quote Link to comment
+The Jester Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 One I didn't see on the lists: JARW - Just Another Rock Wall. BTW, these are not your fancy rock walls that caches shouldn't be hidden in, these are massive rocks that hold back a hillside from ending on a trail/sidewalk/road. Quote Link to comment
+The A-Team Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 19 hours ago, allardjd said: Newbie! I've run into these in logs and can't find an explanation in the glossary or Acronyms list. I have a suspicion they'll be forehead-slappers once someone tells me what they mean. AIP AIW I think we'd have to see them used in context to figure out what they mean. Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, The A-Team said: I think we'd have to see them used in context to figure out what they mean. There are some AIPs here: https://coord.info/GC8636X Also that same cache has an AWPs which are stated to mean "Assisted With Placement". But that doesn't seem to fully explain what's going on. I'm gonna go ask. OK. I asked a couple of finders who posted "AIP". I also found similar abbreviations "HIP" and "TAP" by the group. The caches seem to be hidden by a "team", and the abbreviations may be used mainly among the team members themselves. Edited October 16, 2019 by kunarion Quote Link to comment
+allardjd Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, The A-Team said: I think we'd have to see them used in context to figure out what they mean. AWP is another that I haven't run into a reference for, except in the thread above. "Assisted With Placement" seems to make sense on the bottom one in the image below. [Not sure why I'm showing as a "Basic Member Here" I went Premium a couple weeks ago, at least.] Edited October 16, 2019 by allardjd 1 Quote Link to comment
+barefootjeff Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Perhaps "assisted in placement" for AIP? Just guessing. 1 Quote Link to comment
+The A-Team Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, barefootjeff said: Perhaps "assisted in placement" for AIP? Just guessing. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. AWP and AIP are basically just "I was part of the group that hid the cache". "AIW", I don't know. Assisted in... something? Quote Link to comment
+allardjd Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Is it normal/kosher for someone who assisted in placing a cache to claim it as a find? Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, The A-Team said: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. AWP and AIP are basically just "I was part of the group that hid the cache". "AIW", I don't know. Assisted in... something? And then there's "TAP". I'm further guessing it's merely a form of shorthand used among the group. Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, allardjd said: Is it normal/kosher for someone who assisted in placing a cache to claim it as a find? It seems pretty common. Where I live, I've seen friends plan and hide a cache together, they all sign the physical log in advance, and they also don't log online until "someone else" finds it. Then they all claim a Find, with the exception of the listed "Cache Owner" of course. So the “someone else” gets “FTF”, which seems a little chronologically incorrect to me, but that's more for the “FTF” to work out. It's "FTF after publication". Yeah, that's the ticket! As to “AIP”, I shall suppose it is in fact just that. It's others who were in on the hide, logging the find. But if I can't log “Finding” my own cache online, I won't log Finding a cache that several of us placed as a group. Probably. If I did, it would be rare. And I would not type “AIW”. I'd use words. I occasionally place caches under my team's name. But the “team” wasn't directly involved in placing it, didn't sign in advance, and they can go hunt for it as usual. But it's a group of friends simply having fun trying to out-evil each other, and nobody seems to be having problems. Who am I to say “you can't type AIW!”? I don't know what it means, but so what! They know what it means.* *But I still wanna know... Edited October 17, 2019 by kunarion Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, allardjd said: Newbie! I've run into these in logs and can't find an explanation in the glossary or Acronyms list. I have a suspicion they'll be forehead-slappers once someone tells me what they mean. AIP AIW OK, I got an answer! Here's what I have so far: TAP = There At Placement AIP = Assisted In Placement AWP = Assisted With Placement (AIW? Naw, I think I was seeing things) They may be used interchangeably, but check it out: I can be There At Placement, get coordinates or something, yet not see the container nor exactly how it was hidden. So there may be subtle differences in terms. Basically they more or less all “placed the cache together” as a creative team. Suppose you're one of a bunch of people in a cache maker group for some upcoming cache series (related to a bigger Event, perhaps). You helped build the puzzles or puzzle containers, or pick the hiding spots, or whatever. You did some of it. Is there a point when you've done too much of the “hiding” to be considered a Finder? When do you get to claim a Find and when do you not? Now suppose you did in fact sign it (even pre-signed the log when it was hidden). Discuss among yourselves. Edited October 16, 2019 by kunarion Quote Link to comment
+allardjd Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I'm too new at this to sit in judgment of others. If the geocaching longbeards say it's OK, then that's all I need to hear. If they say it's not OK, I won't do it if in that situation. Color me neutral. Any thoughts on whether AIW = All Is Well, as someone suggested above, i.e. not related to the placer/owner of the cache, just a routine find logging reporting no problems? Quote Link to comment
+CAVinoGal Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, allardjd said: Is it normal/kosher for someone who assisted in placing a cache to claim it as a find? For me, it is not. For other locals, it's fine. Hubby and I have placed several caches together, some under my account, some under his account. The only ones under his account that I have claimed have been those I went to check on, replace a log, or check it after a DNF, where I was by myself, looked for the cache, did maintenance or verified it was where it should be. I felt I had "found it" at that point, especially if there had been a DNF prior. He still has several nearby that I have NOT claimed a smilie on, just because it doesn't feel right, to me. Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 33 minutes ago, allardjd said: I'm too new at this to sit in judgment of others. If the geocaching longbeards say it's OK, then that's all I need to hear. If they say it's not OK, I won't do it if in that situation. Color me neutral. Any thoughts on whether AIW = All Is Well, as someone suggested above, i.e. not related to the placer/owner of the cache, just a routine find logging reporting no problems? If I'm typing something that may be confusing to read, I type it long-hand, then use the abbreviation for it (or I define it once, then I use the word from that point). I haven't used anything like "TFTF" in like forever. I do type "Thanks". You (allardjd) should log out of the Forum, then back in. Get the "Premium Member" title. 1 Quote Link to comment
+kunarion Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, CAVinoGal said: Hubby and I have placed several caches together, some under my account, some under his account. The only ones under his account that I have claimed have been those I went to check on, replace a log, or check it after a DNF, where I was by myself, looked for the cache, did maintenance or verified it was where it should be. I felt I had "found it" at that point, especially if there had been a DNF prior. He still has several nearby that I have NOT claimed a smilie on, just because it doesn't feel right, to me. It's usually not about whether or not I must search for a cache. It's more about if I actually placed it (in cahoots with everybody else in the team or not) and then I went to "find"... my own cache. That's so goofy and confusing for people, we can't even log our own caches online anymore. As to whether or not I have to search for it to be a legitimate find, I often decide where it is before I arrive. Some of them I know 110% exactly what it is and where, and if I was uncertain, I'd wait til I'm certain before I go there to "find" it. Quote Link to comment
+allardjd Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, kunarion said: You (allardjd) should log out of the Forum, then back in. Get the "Premium Member" title. Thanks. That worked. Quote Link to comment
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