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Over the weekend one of my caches got vandalised and removed, with the person simply logging a 'find' on the cache and saying "I took it destroyed it because i dont care also i moved away so you cant find me". 

Which was pretty shocking to see - so I was just wondering if there's anyway to get this user banned? Obviously it won't prevent him/her from creating a new account, but it seems like something should happen...

 

 

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This "cacher" registered on the same day, has just one find. I would delete his/her log. Report to GS via the contact form.

It probably won't have any effect except that the account may be blocked.

 

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Use  the Help Center contact form at the bottom of the page that on4bam linked. In the pull down, use 16. Geocacher Disagreement, that will get your inquiry to the staffers that handle this kind of thing.

 

Also, make your caches PMO for a time. That one, you may want to disable? Make it PMO FIRST so the user can't see what's happening.  Cache maggots almost never pay to play;  typically, they move on to other forms of delinquency fairly soon.

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Thanks for the tips all, I have reported the user so hopefully they get banned; although I realise that would not stop them from creating a new account...

 

I have also made the caches PMO - something I really would not have wanted to do given how few caches there are in my area, I really felt my easy ones could help others get into Geocaching (which they definitely have).  It really does sadden me that someone would wantonly destroy a cache, then feel need to actually go create an account and post about it.  Really disappointing.

 

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46 minutes ago, Tanglefoot TH said:

I have also made the caches PMO - something I really would not have wanted to do given how few caches there are in my area, I really felt my easy ones could help others get into Geocaching (which they definitely have).  It really does sadden me that someone would wantonly destroy a cache, then feel need to actually go create an account and post about it.  Really disappointing.

 

This kind of things happens occasionally and it has been part of the game almost from the beginning. Well... it is also a game but on the dark side. My experiense is that players of that sidegame gets tired pretty fast after the effort to destroy more caches gets greater and there is zero feedback for these "achievments".

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4 hours ago, Tanglefoot TH said:

I have also made the caches PMO - something I really would not have wanted to do given how few caches there are in my area, I really felt my easy ones could help others get into Geocaching (which they definitely have).

 

Hi Tanglefoot,

 

that is always a nice reason for putting out easy and family friendly "beginner caches". I do not see a reason to make such a cache PMO. You punish the others just because of one single guy making nonsense?

 

Just wait for a week or two and then put out a new container. Perhaps move the cache only a few metres. It is listed as micro cache so I do not think it is too exensive to risk? Make it open to all cachers, again. It wasn't listed PMO for a long time and nothing bad happened. So the chance is good that it will live though being open to everyone...

 

I have some caches out there and they are all more than a simple box - but I have never seen a reason to deny non-premium members to see them and so far I haven't regretted this decision.

 

Best wishes

Jochen

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25 minutes ago, frostengel said:

You punish the others just because of one single guy making nonsense?

 

PMO caches are not a punishment. You are right that a disposable cache may not need to be a PMO at all, but what benefits it offers if it gets missing before the next visitor? In this case we know that the wrongdoer is monitoring the cache listing and may hit again when the cache is replaced. PMO status removes this feedback and makes it less interesting hobby.

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55 minutes ago, frostengel said:

Just wait for a week or two and then put out a new container.

^This

 

Don't immediately replace the container. It could be that the person is lying about moving away and is hoping that you'll promptly replace it so they can muggle it again. Give it some time first to let them get bored of waiting.

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50 minutes ago, arisoft said:

PMO caches are not a punishment.

 

Making a cache PMO is a "punishment" for those who are not PM - beginners, many families.... They cannot search it anymore. That is what I meant.

 

29 minutes ago, The A-Team said:

It could be that the person is lying about moving away and is hoping that you'll promptly replace it so they can muggle it again

 

Therefore I would also move the container only a few metres away. That somewone will look for the cache at the old place - and will not find it. That's for sure more helpful than the old hide and PMO.

 

By the way: the cache (https://coord.info/GC7A81J) does not have any watcher so I do not think someone really wants to deny this cache again and again - probably it was just a bad joke, someone laughing about it and the new hide (two weeks, slightly differnt hidden) will have no problems.

 

Jochen

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21 minutes ago, frostengel said:

Making a cache PMO is a "punishment" for those who are not PM - beginners, many families.... They cannot search it anymore. That is what I meant.

 

They will get opportunity to find it later when they are not beginners any more.

 

21 minutes ago, frostengel said:

By the way: the cache (https://coord.info/GC7A81J) does not have any watcher so I do not think someone really wants to deny this cache again and again

 

You suspect that the wrongdoer is an experienced geocacher? I think that beginners do not even have email registered to be able to watch anything.

 

You may be right that this is a one-time incident and will not happen again, but it does not cost a penny to wait a little longer to be sure. I appreciate the good introduction in the cache description and I think that the CO is willing to keep the cache available in the future.

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2 hours ago, The A-Team said:

Don't immediately replace the container. It could be that the person is lying about moving away and is hoping that you'll promptly replace it so they can muggle it again. Give it some time first to let them get bored of waiting.

Yep. Years ago, there were a few neighborhood caches that were fouled by vandals (probably adolescent boys, but that's just speculation). One was a cache I adopted because the original owner no longer had the time to maintain it. Anyway, I waited a few weeks, and then replaced it with a different type of camouflage in a slightly different location. The vandals apparently got bored and moved on to other mischief, because they never struck again.

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1 hour ago, arisoft said:

They will get opportunity to find it later when they are not beginners any more.

 

No, they'll get that opportunity when they've paid for premium membership, which has little to do with whether someone is a beginner or an experienced cacher. I've seen beginners sign up for premium membership before they've even found their first cache and basic members with a decade or more of experience and thousands of finds who feel they don't need the extra features premium membership buys. I know quite a few long-time cachers who've let their premium membership lapse because they no longer do enough caching to warrant it.

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23 hours ago, Tanglefoot TH said:

I really felt my easy ones could help others get into Geocaching (which they definitely have).

 

Fact is: Tanglefoot wants his caches to be simple caches to help beginners (I like that attitude).

Another fact is: Of course there are beginners that get PM at once. But there are many who don't (which I think is absolutely reasonable).

 

Combination of these two facts: There are some/many beginners that cannot search Tanglefoots caches and so they don't get the benefit of the beginner friendly caches if they are listed PMO.

 

Those cachers that are caching for decades aren't the problem here - if they are PM or not...

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On ‎3‎/‎14‎/‎2019 at 12:14 PM, Tanglefoot TH said:

I have also made the caches PMO - something I really would not have wanted to do given how few caches there are in my area, I really felt my easy ones could help others get into Geocaching (which they definitely have).  It really does sadden me that someone would wantonly destroy a cache, then feel need to actually go create an account and post about it.  Really disappointing.

 

Rather than make it pmo, isn't there something you can do about terrain ?  You can move your cache up to .1  ...

(I feel) all three of your hides at 1T lends itself to muggles on occasion.  Only one in terrain, someone's bound to just stumble on them.

Happens all the time.  Kid wanders off from mom n dad and spots "something".  :)

 - You got an odd ball,  a nut who actually joined just to bust your chops.  Hopefully a kid who won't be back.

Sorta agree with frostengel, that your difficulty and terrain makes them easy for new folks learning the hobby.  They can't learn if it's pmo...

I've kinda been around a while, pm more than not,  and I don't do pmo due to that invasive audit. 

Long-time basic members don't have that choice.

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