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Release Notes (Website: new Search/Map) - January 17, 2019

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40 minutes ago, june17 said:

Are you really sure about all this? The 'old' and 'new' map use different technologies and show caches in a slightly different way. Heck, even when you click on a cache things look very different. Did Groundspeak REALLY confirm that they are going to maintain 2 maps that are that different?

I personally did not see any post really confirming this.

 

As MartyBarfast noted, it was mentioned by the Lackey managing this project - in a post in the middle of the 2nd page of this thread.  Certainly easy to miss it if you aren't specifically looking for it.

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Here is an image depicting the browse map, and the reiterate, when I've discussed retiring the map, I am referring to the search results map, and not the browse map. I hope this clears things up.

 

 

40 minutes ago, june17 said:

From a technical side it only makes sense to drop the 'old' map and ONLY keep the 'new' map around.

I assume that they will add feature to show PQ etc.

Technically, the two maps serve different purposes - so keeping them BOTH around makes functional sense to the users of the site.  There are so many functions that "maps" serve on this website that trying to squeeze everything into one "map" would make it quite cumbersome. The Browse Map has already been revamped and I haven't seen many complaints about it, besides the availability of map layers, and I personally find it quite useful in its current form. Keeping it around would not require more development work, so it doesn't seem like a burden to keep it running. I'm glad they will.

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My first bit of feedback in this thread was about the cache details preview panel.

 

I've been playing with the filter pane and find it quite confusing that there are so many various ways to indicate selections:

  • Cache Type:  checkboxes next to the name/icon of the type
  • GeoTour:  slider for either on/off, which is very easy to miss because it's squished between two different selection methods
  • Difficulty/Terrain:  dual-ended slider to indcate a range
  • Cache Size:  buttons that are colored when selected, white when un-selected
  • Cache Status:  checkboxes where all options are applied if none of them are checked, but if a few are checked, then only the checked selections apply?  This section is very confusing.  If the default is that all listed options are applied, then it seems they should all be pre-checked - like how everything is pre-checked in the Cache Type section.  I feel like this section is applying the "All" radio button of the existing Advanced Search, but without showing that there is an "All" option.
  • Corrected Coords:  checkboxes for on/off.  If none are checked then this filter isn't applied, but if one is checked then it is?  Confusing.

I'm finding it very confusing trying to choose filters when each section is so different from the next.

 

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I miss the selection of different maps from OpenStreetMap. In some areas they are simply better than other maps - especially if you are hiking. In addition, you can now select different types that fit better depending on the region.

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On 1/20/2019 at 10:56 AM, WolfHH said:

When using Firefox (Version 64.0/64-Bit on Linux ) and set the cache limit to 1000 (Map Setting, How many caches should we show?) I will get an empty map for the next search (almost a white screen) and have no possibility to switch back the setting, because the controls are not visible.

 

I found the same problem using Firefox 65.0(64 bit) on macOS Mojave; except it is now permanently broken for me.

I tried doing a search for events and that worked nicely; then cleared that filter and wanted to see more caches as default, so I clicked Settings icon on the map, and selected 1000. That was the last I was able to do. Restarted the browser; that did not help. Now I see a white screen no matter what I do and the settings icon is not showing where I selected 1000 (so I cannot revert).

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TOTALLY WHITE SCREEN with Firefox Quantum 64.0.2 (32-bit) and Windows 10 has been a problem for some considerable time. I reported it under the first Release Notes thread and later under this thread.

 

Developers have never acknowledged the issue as far as I know - bit frustrating for sure as would be nice to know its on their to-do-list. This fault has never shown up when using Google Chrome.

 

Someone mentioned about the problem appearing when 1000 caches were selected and dropping down to 250/500 seem to solve the problem for a short time, but it soon reverted and now if I move the map manually or pretty well do anything the 'white screen of death' appears again.

 

When the white screen shows, I found by deleting everything in the URL box after ... https://www.geocaching.com/play/map the map screen is restroed, so if you see something like this: https://www.geocaching.com/play/map?lat=52.8235642726341&lng=-1.1873817443847656&zoom=14&asc=true&sort=distance then just delete the part shown in grey text and press return/enter.

 

https://www.geocaching.com/play/map gets you back to the search map anytime.

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Hi everyone,

 

Here’s what to look out for with today’s update!

One quick note - these were all requests either surfaced in this forum or suggested from community members at large.

  • From the Cache Details Preview, clicking the “More Info” button now opens the Cache Details Page in a new browser window.
  • We’ve pre-pended the Short Description to the Long Description - this is now viewable as one inclusive description on the Cache Details Preview and Cache Details Page.  If the cache type is an Event, this is where you will find the time of the event.
  • Lastly, we added a scale to the map - you’ll find this on the bottom left hand corner of the map.

Additionally, in case you missed it, we fixed the problems that some reported when viewing the map on Internet Explorer as of February, 5th.

Please stay tuned to this forum thread for further updates.

 

Best,

Brendan

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TOTALLY WHITE SCREEN with Firefox.

Still, not fixed. :santa:

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8 hours ago, brendanjw said:
  • From the Cache Details Preview, clicking the “More Info” button now opens the Cache Details Page in a new browser window.
  • We’ve pre-pended the Short Description to the Long Description - this is now viewable as one inclusive description on the Cache Details Preview and Cache Details Page.  If the cache type is an Event, this is where you will find the time of the event.
  • Lastly, we added a scale to the map - you’ll find this on the bottom left hand corner of the map.

 

It's great to see these long-standing issues addressed, thanks :).

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The new map is really horrible...

 

I can no longer choose openstreetmap, this means that for most caches I can't see the walking paths/roads which means I can't see the route and it is impossible to plan a route for a day of caching without third party tools (why I am paying for premium again?).

The new map has made planning a day of geocaching more difficult and more time consuming and frustrating.

 

When moving the map, caches are no longer automatically displayed. Every time you move the map you have to push the button to search caches and event then they aren't all displayed on the map (again, why am I paying for premium?).

 

Personally, I can't name a single thing that has improved with the new map. It has only made things more difficult and I have to use a bunch of third party tools.

 

 

 

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I thought I'd give the map another go since the new release.

I picked my area and sorted by near to far and the result was not as expected.

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The cache Carreg Arthur is the green trad on the far left of the screen. The nearest to Llanberis is cluster of yellows and the unfound trad Taw next to the plus sign. 

If I use the old search I get a list of the ones I have found plus Taw at 1.5km and Carreg Arthur at 4km.

So, from where does the new map measure distance?

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The new map is fundamentally different than the old.

Please see this post for an explanation as to why, as it may clear up some confusion that yet abounds...

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Recent improvements are very welcome ... but would like to know when the following issues will be resolved:

 

(1) WHITE SCREEN of death using Firefox + Win10 - more or less everytime I move the map or change something - this is a HUGE issue with no feedback from the developers to  even acknowledge there is a problem

 

(2) FILTERS >> cache "TYPE" >> is MISSING CITO Events as a separate item - have to select all normal events and click through each to find the CITO! Bit at odds with the coming season for souvenirs!

 

Thanks

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2 hours ago, PlasmaWave said:

(1) WHITE SCREEN of death using Firefox + Win10 - more or less everytime I move the map or change something - this is a HUGE issue with no feedback from the developers to  even acknowledge there is a problem

I use that same setup and haven't experienced this issue even once, so it isn't a global FireFox+Win10 issue. Do you use any add-ons that make changes to the way you use the geocaching.com site? Maybe one of those doesn't play well with the new search map.

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22 hours ago, brendanjw said:

Hi everyone,

 

Here’s what to look out for with today’s update!

One quick note - these were all requests either surfaced in this forum or suggested from community members at large.

  • From the Cache Details Preview, clicking the “More Info” button now opens the Cache Details Page in a new browser window.
  • We’ve pre-pended the Short Description to the Long Description - this is now viewable as one inclusive description on the Cache Details Preview and Cache Details Page.  If the cache type is an Event, this is where you will find the time of the event.
  • Lastly, we added a scale to the map - you’ll find this on the bottom left hand corner of the map.

Additionally, in case you missed it, we fixed the problems that some reported when viewing the map on Internet Explorer as of February, 5th.

Please stay tuned to this forum thread for further updates.

 

Best,

Brendan

Thanks. 

Something I just noticed - after the first five logs under activity, the option for "View all x logs" is the same as the "more info" -  that is, it takes you to the cache page. This link also might also be updated to open in a new browser window.

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10 hours ago, The A-Team said:

I use that same setup and haven't experienced this issue even once, so it isn't a global FireFox+Win10 issue. Do you use any add-ons that make changes to the way you use the geocaching.com site? Maybe one of those doesn't play well with the new search map.

 

UPDATE after further tests - "white screen" issue ONLY occuring when 1000 caches are selected ... no problems so far when 250, 500 or 750 caches are selected - same repeatable situation whether plug-ins are enabled or disabled.

 

Will monitor the situation carefully but as other folks have reported the same issue, there must be a conflict with Firefox since there is no issue when 1000 caches are selected and using Chrome, on the same computer.

 

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Further Firefox details:

 

With 1000 caches selected and ALL add-ons (Extensions & Plugins) reset to DISABLED ... totally "white screen" still occuring when zooming map scale out (same whether using '+/-' buttons or rolling the mouse wheel) or manually dragging the map with the mouse. This is NOT occuring when 250, 500 or 750 caches are selected.

 

Firefox add-ons for the record:

 

EXTENSIONS:
Adblock Plus
Greasemonkey
Kaspersky Protection
NoScript - disabled

 

PLUGINS:

OpenH264 Video Codec provided by Sisco Systems
Widevine Content Decryption Modile provided by Google
Shockwave Flash (32.0 r0)


THEMES:
Default - ENABLED
Light - disabled
Dark - disabled

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Seems to load more slowly.

Also, I like to be able to click on the pocket query tab to quickly get the query mapped. Doesn't seem to be available in the new version.

The toggle between the old and new versions doesn't seem to be working for me.

Using Firefox on Windows 10.

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On ‎2‎/‎15‎/‎2019 at 9:48 PM, PlasmaWave said:

UPDATE after further tests - "white screen" issue ONLY occuring when 1000 caches are selected ... no problems so far when 250, 500 or 750 caches are selected - same repeatable situation whether plug-ins are enabled or disabled.

I just did some testing with this in mind. When I first loaded the map, I found that it was still on the default of 500. Once I changed it to 1000, the map reloaded and I got the white screen. I then closed that tab and clicked the "Map These Geocaches" button again, and this time the map loaded fine. I checked, and the setting is still at 1000. Even after closing this tab, changing the filters of my search, and clicking "Map These Geocaches" again, it still works as expected.

 

The first time I tried changing the filters from the map screen, I got a white screen after clicking "DONE". However, after closing things and trying the same process, it now works as expected. I can change filters, pan, zoom, and "Search this area" to my heart's content and no white screen.

 

So, there's definitely some kind of incompatibility between the map and Firefox, but it isn't consistent.

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