+fizzymagic Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 7 hours ago, Goldenwattle said: Sounds like you don't like past tourists having the souvenir and it should be harder for foreigners to get. Fortunately it was done fairer. No, I was addressing those in a hurry to see the souvenirs. There is also a background process that will take longer. You are sure eager to assign bad motives to everyone who posts, aren't you? Maybe a little self-reflection could help with that. 1 Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 7 hours ago, NYPaddleCacher said: Germany, Canada, Australia, Ireland, and the U.S. all have "state" (or there equivalent) souvenirs. Germany, Canada, and Australia, and now the U.S. all have country level souvenirs (but I didn't see any "complaints" about having both country and states souvenirs until now). Ireland still only has it's regional souvenirs. I still have 8 countries in which I"ve found a cache which don't have a souvenir and will only get the one for the U.S. in this years batch. I had heard a rumor that GS was working with a 3rd party to release souvenirs for the rest of the countries but it looks like we're only going to get these five this year. I'm sure you're right, but I don't see Australia listed under Country Souvenirs. The list could use an update anyway. Quote Link to comment
+barefootjeff Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, Max and 99 said: I'm sure you're right, but I don't see Australia listed under Country Souvenirs. The list could use an update anyway. The one for Australia was introduced in January this year, coinciding with the Where in the World is Signal? promotion over the Australia Day weekend. Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 14 minutes ago, barefootjeff said: The one for Australia was introduced in January this year, coinciding with the Where in the World is Signal? promotion over the Australia Day weekend. Oh yeah. That list needs to be updated! Quote Link to comment
HiddenGnome Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I apologize for the time that it has taken to get everyone's USA souvenir awarded. We ran into some technical issues that we haven't run into with other souvenirs because of the large number of souvenirs that needed to be awarded this time around. It took a few iterations to update the background process, but we are very close to having all of the souvenirs awarded. 2 Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 42 minutes ago, Max and 99 said: I'm sure you're right, but I don't see Australia listed under Country Souvenirs. The list could use an update anyway. Although it's not the "official" souvenirs list, the A-Team souvenirs page (https://thea-team.net/souvenir) is generally very up-to-date (though they haven't yet added the 5 most recent souvenirs). Quote Link to comment
HiddenGnome Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, NYPaddleCacher said: Although it's not the "official" souvenirs list, the A-Team souvenirs page (https://thea-team.net/souvenir) is generally very up-to-date (though they haven't yet added the 5 most recent souvenirs). Would you mind pointing me to the "official" list that you are referring to? Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 My souvenir still is dated 12/10/2018. Should be 07/03/2004. Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, HiddenGnome said: Would you mind pointing me to the "official" list that you are referring to? Here's the link from another souvenir thread: https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=29&pgid=792#countrysouvenirs Edited December 11, 2018 by Max and 99 Quote Link to comment
HiddenGnome Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Max and 99 said: I don't know about "official" but here's the link from another souvenir thread: https://www.geocaching.com/help/index.php?pg=kb.chapter&id=29&pgid=792#countrysouvenirs Thank you! I will put in a request to have that list of souvenirs updated. Quote Link to comment
+Goldenwattle Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 8 hours ago, NYPaddleCacher said: Germany, Canada, Australia, Ireland, and the U.S. all have "state" (or there equivalent) souvenirs. Germany, Canada, and Australia, and now the U.S. all have country level souvenirs (but I didn't see any "complaints" about having both country and states souvenirs until now). Ireland still only has it's regional souvenirs. I still have 8 countries in which I"ve found a cache which don't have a souvenir and will only get the one for the U.S. in this years batch. I had heard a rumor that GS was working with a 3rd party to release souvenirs for the rest of the countries but it looks like we're only going to get these five this year. Not Australia, or at least I don't have an Australian souvenir. I have all the states though. Quote Link to comment
HiddenGnome Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, Harry Dolphin said: My souvenir still is dated 12/10/2018. Should be 07/03/2004. Once the souvenir is awarded the background process that is currently running will not update the "award" date to the earliest log date. Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, HiddenGnome said: Thank you! I will put in a request to have that list of souvenirs updated. Thanks! I was really starting to doubt myself. I wonder if the 2 new ones coming soon might be included (last day 2018 and first day 2019). Quote Link to comment
+Goldenwattle Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, fizzymagic said: No, I was addressing those in a hurry to see the souvenirs. There is also a background process that will take longer. You are sure eager to assign bad motives to everyone who posts, aren't you? Maybe a little self-reflection could help with that. I can only see what your mean, by what you write. And you wrote it. 1 Quote Link to comment
+barefootjeff Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 45 minutes ago, Goldenwattle said: Not Australia, or at least I don't have an Australian souvenir. I have all the states though. I just looked at your profile and you do have it, sitting in between 31 Days of Caching (31 of 31) and the ACT one. Quote Link to comment
+DerDiedler Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I allready have it, awarded the correct date Quote Link to comment
+eigengott Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, speakers-corner said: I said it was stupid to have both, either a country or states / regions. Whereby I would say a country is enough. A country may be an independent sovereign state or part of a larger state (Wikipedia). I don't see an issue having a souvenir both for a state (Washington) which is part of a larger federation and the federation itself (USA). Things are somewhat fuzzy anyway, think Puerto Rico. Actually I wouldn't mind having a souvenir for the European Union as well sometime in the future. Also, this is just a game. Edited December 11, 2018 by eigengott Quote Link to comment
+2-hobbits Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Max and 99 said: I had heard a rumor that GS was working with a 3rd party to release souvenirs for the rest of the countries but it looks like we're only going to get these five this year. That would be great. I will be patient! Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 Posted 19 minutes ago 2 hours ago, Max and 99 said: I had heard a rumor that GS was working with a 3rd party to release souvenirs for the rest of the countries but it looks like we're only going to get these five this year. 20 minutes ago, 2-hobbits said: That would be great. I will be patient! I said what now?? LOL Quote Link to comment
+Goldenwattle Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, barefootjeff said: I just looked at your profile and you do have it, sitting in between 31 Days of Caching (31 of 31) and the ACT one. Yes I know. I do now, but I didn't then (I mentioned this on the previous page, but understandable, we don't always read all the comments.) Edited December 12, 2018 by Goldenwattle Quote Link to comment
+Lynx Humble Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 6 hours ago, HiddenGnome said: Once the souvenir is awarded the background process that is currently running will not update the "award" date to the earliest log date. That would have been nice to get a warning to wait after having the souvenir awarded before logging cache so the date on the souvenir would match with the earliest find... Quote Link to comment
+Goldenwattle Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) My first US find was actually 22/Sep/2014 (in Maine), but the US souvenir gives it as 21/Sep/2014. But what's a day . I can live with that. Edited December 12, 2018 by Goldenwattle Quote Link to comment
Moun10Bike Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Lynx Humble said: That would have been nice to get a warning to wait after having the souvenir awarded before logging cache so the date on the souvenir would match with the earliest find... Now that the script has finished running, everyone should have the correct date on these retroactively-awarded souvenirs. Quote Link to comment
+CAVinoGal Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Moun10Bike said: Now that the script has finished running, everyone should have the correct date on these retroactively-awarded souvenirs. My USA souvenir is showing as awarded 12/10/2018 - when my first US cache was the day I started caching in March of 2017. Not a big deal, since the souvenir was not available till 12/10/18, but I would have earned it with the first cache I found, as I earned the CA souvenir with that same cache. Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Moun10Bike said: Now that the script has finished running, everyone should have the correct date on these retroactively-awarded souvenirs. My date is not correct either. No big deal, just adding info. Quote Link to comment
+Hynz Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Moun10Bike said: Now that the script has finished running, everyone should have the correct date on these retroactively-awarded souvenirs. FWIW the dates on my location based souvenirs for existing country souvenirs seems to be always the date of logging and not the date of the first find. I couldn't care less about souvenirs and I will not contact GS to adjust my dates individually but since at least the location based souvenirs are somehow informative to me I would appreciate if in the long run these dates could be adjusted. Edited December 12, 2018 by Hynz spelling Quote Link to comment
+thebruce0 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Mine is dated for my first US find. Odd that there are so many variant reports from people. Curious how the date is determined in the retroactive reward script. It really shouldn't be hard. Log date of the first Found It log on a cache located within the country. Not even sure how any other date could sneak in there. Quote Link to comment
+MartyBartfast Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, thebruce0 said: Not even sure how any other date could sneak in there. Possibly: 10 years ago I find my first cache in the USA. New Souvenir is enabled yesterday. Script is started which will go and retrospectively award the Souvenir to all cachers who already qualify, dated for the first qualifying find. I log a find on a cache in the USA, and that find gets me the Souvenir dated now. The script in 3. eventually gets round to cachers with names starting with M, but as I already have the souvenir it doesn't overwrite the date with my find from 10 years ago. A tweak in the script functionality may have been required. It's likely that this wasn't a problem previously as the script would have run much quicker for smaller countries, so less likelyhood of the overlapping of 3 & 4. Edited December 12, 2018 by MartyBartfast 1 Quote Link to comment
+thebruce0 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Well, yeah, if there's an overlap between being awarded the souvenir for a new log and the script retroactively awarding it. Is that the only instance of wrong dates though? From what I inferred it has happened with people who haven't logged anything new but still have the wrong date applied. Maybe I read incorrectly. Quote Link to comment
+CAVinoGal Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, MartyBartfast said: Possibly: 10 years ago I find my first cache in the USA. New Souvenir is enabled yesterday. Script is started which will go and retrospectively award the Souvenir to all cachers who already qualify, dated for the first qualifying find. I log a find on a cache in the USA, and that find gets me the Souvenir dated now. (Apparently this is my situation) The script in 3. eventually gets round to cachers with names starting with M, but as I already have the souvenir it doesn't overwrite the date with my find from 10 years ago. (My name starts with C, but since I am logging finds every day, I still beat the script and was awarded the souvenir on 12/10/18 based on a "Found it" log.) A tweak in the script functionality may have been required. It's likely that this wasn't a problem previously as the script would have run much quicker for smaller countries, so less likelyhood of the overlapping of 3 & 4. Ah, well. All my caching has been in the US except for a couple in Mexico we just got in October. Not a concern for me when it's dated, but I can see others wanting the dates accurate! Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 hour ago, CAVinoGal said: Ah, well. All my caching has been in the US except for a couple in Mexico we just got in October. Not a concern for me when it's dated, but I can see others wanting the dates accurate! I'm all for accurate dates too, especially if it showed a different date for my first find in a U.S. State and the U.S. Country souvenirs. I hadn't found any caches since the U.S. country souvenir was released but it's now in my profile with the same date as my first find in 2007. Quote Link to comment
+Lynx Humble Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 3 hours ago, MartyBartfast said: Possibly: 10 years ago I find my first cache in the USA. New Souvenir is enabled yesterday. Script is started which will go and retrospectively award the Souvenir to all cachers who already qualify, dated for the first qualifying find. I log a find on a cache in the USA, and that find gets me the Souvenir dated now. The script in 3. eventually gets round to cachers with names starting with M, but as I already have the souvenir it doesn't overwrite the date with my find from 10 years ago. A tweak in the script functionality may have been required. It's likely that this wasn't a problem previously as the script would have run much quicker for smaller countries, so less likelyhood of the overlapping of 3 & 4. It didn't run fast enough for when they awarded Canada last year because I got caught doing 4 before 3. 1 Quote Link to comment
Moun10Bike Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 13 hours ago, CAVinoGal said: My USA souvenir is showing as awarded 12/10/2018 - when my first US cache was the day I started caching in March of 2017. Not a big deal, since the souvenir was not available till 12/10/18, but I would have earned it with the first cache I found, as I earned the CA souvenir with that same cache. My mistake - I thought that there was a second script that was taking care of those accounts that logged a find in the USA while the lengthy initial awarding script was running. There was not. So, what happened in your case (and others like it) is that you logged a find in the US before the script got to you, and as a result you were awarded the souvenir for the time of that find rather than the time of your first-ever find in the US. I just provided our dev team with a list of the accounts that were awarded the souvenir with more than a day's difference between award date and earned date. Hopefully they will be able to address the 2.7k or so accounts that were so affected. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
+CAVinoGal Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 8 hours ago, Moun10Bike said: I just provided our dev team with a list of the accounts that were awarded the souvenir with more than a day's difference between award date and earned date. Hopefully they will be able to address the 2.7k or so accounts that were so affected. Thank you! Quote Link to comment
+DerDiedler Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 maybe they were running two data analysis to roll out the souvenier. First to check if one is qualified for the souvenier and avarded it with the rollout date. And a secont by wich the date was rorrected to the first find in the USA. Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted December 14, 2018 Author Share Posted December 14, 2018 On 12/11/2018 at 2:34 PM, HiddenGnome said: Would you mind pointing me to the "official" list that you are referring to? Just fyi, today's blog post included this same link of all current souvenirs, but unfortunately it is not a current list. Quote Link to comment
+CAVinoGal Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 On 12/12/2018 at 9:29 PM, CAVinoGal said: On 12/12/2018 at 1:15 PM, Moun10Bike said: I just provided our dev team with a list of the accounts that were awarded the souvenir with more than a day's difference between award date and earned date. Hopefully they will be able to address the 2.7k or so accounts that were so affected. My souvenir is still showing 12/10/18; the correct "earned" date should be the date of my first find, 3/9/17. Not a huge deal, just curious if this will be resolved? Quote Link to comment
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