+The Snowdog Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Several of us noticed that an out-of-state cacher, with a very high "Found It" count, recently swept through our metro area and logged over a hundred caches - all owned by inactive COs and several of which we know are be missing. This cacher did not log a single find by an active CO. What would you do? Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 I would do nothing since they are not my caches. 2 Quote Link to comment
+barefootjeff Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Well there's always this... Or perhaps not. There's not much else you can do though. With hindsight, perhaps this is another good reason to log NAs on caches known to be missing, particularly when the CO is known to be no longer active. 5 3 Quote Link to comment
+pingurus Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 You could report the user to Groundspeak. If the case is clear, the account might be deleted, as happened once in my region. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
+Touchstone Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 7 hours ago, The Snowdog said: ...several of which we know are be missing. Sounds like some cleaning up is in order. At the very least, starting the NA process going will discourage some of this behavior, if the individual is limiting their searches to active Listings. In my area, once a Listing is Disabled, there doesn't appear to be much activity on the page. 1 Quote Link to comment
+on4bam Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 A while ago I noticed "found" logs from a few people within a few days of caches being archived. Looked very much like the archiving attracted the attention. The archiving was done because of non-maintenance after NM logs and the caches were disabled. It looked like a "system". Quote Link to comment
+BulldogBlitz Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 11 hours ago, The Snowdog said: Several of us noticed that an out-of-state cacher, with a very high "Found It" count, recently swept through our metro area and logged over a hundred caches - all owned by inactive COs and several of which we know are be missing. This cacher did not log a single find by an active CO. What would you do? name them in a public forum. lay waste to their reputations. Quote Link to comment
+cerberus1 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 12 hours ago, The Snowdog said: Several of us noticed that an out-of-state cacher, with a very high "Found It" count, recently swept through our metro area and logged over a hundred caches - all owned by inactive COs and several of which we know are be missing. This cacher did not log a single find by an active CO. What would you do? Clever if you think about it. Majority of times never noticed. Like others, we see this behavior in just-archived hides as well. Claim to be "catching up with their logging" ... Unless they're our caches, we don't think about them anymore. We've seen how some come by those high numbers. - But when one's bragging at an event (and it happens...), especially if they're making folks uncomfortable (comparing to others), if this old fart is asked why I'm laughing, depending on mood I'll probably share. 2 Quote Link to comment
+dprovan Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 18 hours ago, The Snowdog said: Several of us noticed that an out-of-state cacher, with a very high "Found It" count, recently swept through our metro area and logged over a hundred caches - all owned by inactive COs and several of which we know are be missing. This cacher did not log a single find by an active CO. What would you do? Well, to be honest, I'd probably ignore it, but it would make sense to present your evidence to Groundspeak in case they want to do anything about it. The more evidence you can present that shows (as opposed to suggests) that the logs are invalid, the better. Particularly nice would be an on-line find that you can show doesn't have a signature in the physical log. I don't know if GS will care, but if you present a fair and succinct case, at least they can't blame you for trying. Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Many years ago, there was a drive through cacher who logged two of my caches in one day. Two miles apart, but at least an hour's drive. But no one had ever logged both on the same day. Took me a few weeks to check the logs, and neither was signed. It was brought up in the fora. I suspect what did him in was logging a reviewer's cache, with no signature. So, GS might be concerned, with enough evidence. Quote Link to comment
+Max and 99 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 If I go sign the logs for him will that make the finds legit? Quote Link to comment
+dprovan Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 58 minutes ago, Max and 99 said: If I go sign the logs for him will that make the finds legit? I would say "no", but I suppose it depends on what you mean by "legit". It would certainly make them harder to repudiate. Quote Link to comment
+L0ne.R Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 On 29/05/2018 at 1:11 AM, The Snowdog said: all owned by inactive COs and several of which we know are be missing This part is the most concerning. Quote Link to comment
+Team DEMP Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 1:11 AM, The Snowdog said: all owned by inactive COs and several of which we know are be missing. Seems like a good place for an armchair NA 4 Quote Link to comment
+The Snowdog Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 It happens that one of the caches involved is owned by an inactive CO but it's still there and I have it on my "watch" list. I think I'll drop by and take a look at that log. Quote Link to comment
+L0ne.R Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 23 minutes ago, The Snowdog said: It happens that one of the caches involved is owned by an inactive CO but it's still there and I have it on my "watch" list. I think I'll drop by and take a look at that log. Since an owner isn't monitoring this cache (s/he could remove the find), getting the listing (and other abandoned listings) removed from the database will help decrease unfavorable numbers-style behavior. Start the process, alert your reviewer(s) by posting a Needs Archive log. Maybe even let the reviewer know that the abandoned listings are contributing to the problem of false finds. As a community, we can help increase the integrity of the game by using the tools provided by the GC site. 1 1 Quote Link to comment
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