+headmj Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just a quick question. Is geocaching dropping old caches after a certain amount of time? My original placed cache seems to have disappeared. It was placed in 2002. Mike Quote Link to comment
+cerberus1 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 There's quite a few still around earlier than '02, so I'd take a guess that maybe it was adopted by another? We're one of a couple who favorited many long-archived caches and they're still there. Owned caches are part of others cache history as well as the CO, so I believe they'd have to remain on record. Quote Link to comment
+MartyBartfast Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 If by dropping you mean erasing completely then I can't imaging Groundspeak doing that. Any published cache will be part of so many records in the databases (tb logs, finders logs, bookmark lists, etc) it could cause all sorts of issues, so I can't see them doing it and I can't think of any reason why they would want to. And then there would be the outcry from all those cachers who had found it and suddenly it dropped off their stats, possibly messing up someones qualification for various challenges. Quote Link to comment
+Isonzo Karst Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) Caches are not dropped" because of age. They're archived (removed as active findable caches) if they go missing or fall into bad repair, or if the cache owner archives. Here are the caches that the headmj account owns, per Geocaching.com https://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest.aspx?u=headmj&sortdir=asc&sort=placed If you placed an earlier cache, it's possible that the site allowed someone to adopt it, this assuming there was a period in 2002 -3 where you weren't logging in. Or perhaps you placed it under a different account - I see that some of your old hides are by headmj & Noreen. Was there a Noreen account that might have owned the 2002 cache? Edited November 19, 2017 by Isonzo Karst 2 Quote Link to comment
+headmj Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 14 hours ago, Isonzo Karst said: Caches are not dropped" because of age. They're archived (removed as active findable caches) if they go missing or fall into bad repair, or if the cache owner archives. Here are the caches that the headmj account owns, per Geocaching.com https://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest.aspx?u=headmj&sortdir=asc&sort=placed If you placed an earlier cache, it's possible that the site allowed someone to adopt it, this assuming there was a period in 2002 -3 where you weren't logging in. Or perhaps you placed it under a different account - I see that some of your old hides are by headmj & Noreen. Was there a Noreen account that might have owned the 2002 cache? Thanks for the detailed answer. There is definitely an archived cache missing that was placed in 2002. it should be before the existing number 1 in the list. Thanks! Quote Link to comment
+hzoi Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 14 hours ago, headmj said: There is definitely an archived cache missing that was placed in 2002. it should be before the existing number 1 in the list. Do you remember any details, such as about when you placed it, or about where it was hidden? Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 Or the GC code. If it were adopted out, you could find it using the code. Quote Link to comment
+noncentric Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 To the OP, Is this the 2002 cache that you think is missing? Summit Fire Tower It looks like it was placed in 2002, as FTF logs were made on 8/20/2002. It looks like you replaced the physical cache in 2004. See THIS LOG. I'm guessing that you updated the Hidden Date on the cache page when you 'reset' the cache, and that's why you're not seeing a 2002 hide, because the date was changed. As others have noted, it's extremely rare that a published cache listing would later 'disappear'. 3 Quote Link to comment
+hzoi Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 16 hours ago, noncentric said: To the OP, Is this the 2002 cache that you think is missing? Summit Fire Tower It looks like it was placed in 2002, as FTF logs were made on 8/20/2002. It looks like you replaced the physical cache in 2004. See THIS LOG. I'm guessing that you updated the Hidden Date on the cache page when you 'reset' the cache, and that's why you're not seeing a 2002 hide, because the date was changed. As others have noted, it's extremely rare that a published cache listing would later 'disappear'. I think we have a winner. Quote Link to comment
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