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From time to time I stumbled across some trophies and plaques of  Awarded Locations, I find them interesting and I've been thinking of a category dedicated to them.

Below you can see some of my finds as an example.

 

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Porto Airport won the Airport Service Quality Awards 2007 in Europe.

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Abrantes was Awarded in the 1996  European Competition for Towns and Villages in Bloom.

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National Prize for Landscape Architecture 2005, 1st Prize in the category of Public Spaces.

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Professor Egas Moniz Street won Best Street 2011 in the beauty contest of streets of the Municipality of Albergaria-a-Velha.

 

What do you think about this idea?

 

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While thinking of the category of Historic Preservation Awards, I was wondering: would the focus here be the award or the site or both?

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I think, this is a great idea. I've seen such awards several times. One tiny problem I see: If awards of companies (like the airport you mentioned) are accepted, there will be lots of these. For example: Almost all wineries, breweries, even butchers etc. have earned an award some time for one of their products.

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On 02/11/2017 at 7:14 PM, elyob said:

While thinking of the category of Historic Preservation Awards, I was wondering: would the focus here be the award or the site or both?

The goal of the category would be to find an waymark a physical representation of the prize together with the award-winning location. 

23 hours ago, PISA-caching said:

I think, this is a great idea. I've seen such awards several times. One tiny problem I see: If awards of companies (like the airport you mentioned) are accepted, there will be lots of these. For example: Almost all wineries, breweries, even butchers etc. have earned an award some time for one of their products.

I think these prizes should not be accepted in the category.  For example if a winery has a trophy for "Best Winery of 2017" this would be accepted because it was assigned to the location, if the trophy is for "Signal Wine, best wine of 2017" this would not be accepted as it was not attributed to a location but to a product.

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6 hours ago, razalas said:

The goal of the category would be to find an waymark a physical representation of the prize together with the award-winning location. 

I think these prizes should not be accepted in the category.  For example if a winery has a trophy for "Best Winery of 2017" this would be accepted because it was assigned to the location, if the trophy is for "Signal Wine, best wine of 2017" this would not be accepted as it was not attributed to a location but to a product.

I'm afraid that "Best Winery" and "Best wine" are too similar, not only in the letters, but also in the meaning. What does it take to receive a "Best Winery" award? Do they have to sell lots of wine or produce very good wine? And will such award plaques describe the criteria?

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Winery is a physical location that can be waymarked.  Wine is an object that could be in many locations.

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I'm not sure, what the best words would be to do it, but I think this category should be limited to subjects that are "visible" or "experiencable". For example: "European Competition for Towns and Villages in Bloom": You can see the many flowers in this town/village. "Beauty contest of streets of the Municipality of Albergaria-a-Velha": You can walk through that street and admire its beauty etc.

But how do I experience the "Best winery", if there is no further Information like "in the category Preservation of old varieties of wine" or something like that? Also, some wineries here in Austria run a so-called "Heurigen" (kind of a tavern, where they sell their wine) and will exhibit their awards there, but their vineyards, wine cellars etc. (where they work for the award) are probably miles away.

I think we need some more discussion on this topic.

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On ‎05‎.‎11‎.‎2017 at 1:49 AM, elyob said:

Winery is a physical location that can be waymarked.  Wine is an object that could be in many locations.

A typical winery (here in Austria) is not ONE location. Often they consist of several locations (see above). Some wineries have several vineyards in different areas, some have multiple wine cellars and they run more than one Heurigen. And yes, of course we can't waymark a bottle of the best wine of 2009, but we can waymark the winery that produced it and the difference between "Best winery 2009" and "Winery that produced the best wine of 2009" is quite slim.

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I like the idea and examples with pictures are really clear

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17 hours ago, PISA-caching said:

...Some wineries have several vineyards in different areas, some have multiple wine cellars and they run more than one Heurigen. And yes, of course we can't waymark a bottle of the best wine of 2009, but we can waymark the winery that produced it and the difference between "Best winery 2009" and "Winery that produced the best wine of 2009" is quite slim.

Indeed, the difference, it seems to me, is quite slim - so slim, in fact that it becomes purely a matter of semantics. The "Winery that produced the best wine of 2009" is, in most regions, likely the same winery that won the award entitled "Best winery 2009", as such awards are, as a rule, the result of the winery's having won one or more competitions, locally, nationally and/or internationally, thence becoming recognized as the "Winery that produced the best wine of 2009".

The fact that a winery may have several locations and vineyards far afield seems irrelevant to me. Each winery should have a headquarters, or corporate office. In some cases that may be where one might expect to find a winery's awards; in other cases one might find those awards at one or even all of the winery's satellite wine cellars, Heurigens or vineyards. I fail to see that as potentially breaking this category.

To quote razalas: "The goal of the category would be to find an[d] waymark a physical representation of the prize together with the award-winning location." It reads as though the intention is that the award should be the object of primary importance here, the actual location taking backstage, whether it be corporate headquarters or one of a winery's dozen wine cellars. After all, without the award it remains simply a winery. To quote my wife: "I think you're turning this into brain surgery."

Keith

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4 hours ago, BK-Hunters said:

Indeed, the difference, it seems to me, is quite slim - so slim, in fact that it becomes purely a matter of semantics. The "Winery that produced the best wine of 2009" is, in most regions, likely the same winery that won the award entitled "Best winery 2009", as such awards are, as a rule, the result of the winery's having won one or more competitions, locally, nationally and/or internationally, thence becoming recognized as the "Winery that produced the best wine of 2009".

The fact that a winery may have several locations and vineyards far afield seems irrelevant to me. Each winery should have a headquarters, or corporate office. In some cases that may be where one might expect to find a winery's awards; in other cases one might find those awards at one or even all of the winery's satellite wine cellars, Heurigens or vineyards. I fail to see that as potentially breaking this category.

To quote razalas: "The goal of the category would be to find an[d] waymark a physical representation of the prize together with the award-winning location." It reads as though the intention is that the award should be the object of primary importance here, the actual location taking backstage, whether it be corporate headquarters or one of a winery's dozen wine cellars. After all, without the award it remains simply a winery. To quote my wife: "I think you're turning this into brain surgery."

Keith

I didn't mean to say that all this is breaking the category. I only suggest to keep in mind, that "Most beautiful street of xxxxx" will be ONE location with most likely ONE phisical award to waymark. Wineries (and every other business with multiple locations) might present their award(s) at several locations. In the Flags of Organizations category, only ONE specific flag is allowed, so should every award only be allowed once or can I waymark the same award twice if I find a sign in their vineyards AND at the Heurigen? Or think of a supermarket chain with dozens/hundreds of branches!

AND, what if a winery has more than one Award (Best winery 2009, Best winery 2012,...)? Can I post multiple waymarks at the same location?

Again, I don't want to find reasons for denying the category, I just try to find things that should be considered before Peer Review starts.

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Point taken. The mention of supermarkets introduces a scary thought. Allow only one per corporate entity or each one discovered? Allowing only one is essentially impossible to police, as it would leave it up to the reviewer to check for dupes nationwide, sometimes worldwide. Initially that would be a breeze, but after the category had accumulated 1,000 Waymarks it would become a bit troublesome. It would seem that Pedro has some weighty decisions to ponder.

Keith

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That's exactly what I was thinking about. There are awards like "Best recruiter" and since they are not for a product, but for the company, they would be accepted. But if a supermarket chain wins that prize and presents that award in all their branches, we have a problem. Therefore I suggested to limit it to awards for something "visible" (for example: Most beautiful street in xxxx) or "experiencable" (for example: Concert hall with the best acoustics).

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I see these best of "whatever" awards EVERY year from several communities near me awarded to businesses. There're are literally dozens of these award-winning places, like dentists, dry cleaners, real estate agents, dog groomer, yoga studio, hair saloon, bar/pub, hardware store, florist, plumber, veterinarian, nail saloon, and auto mechanic, just to name some that won't already fit in other existing categories. Multiply the local awards I see near me by the number of places around the planet by the number of possible years awards could have been given and I see over-prevalence everywhere. This will end up being the Waymarking community celebrating/publicizing these businesses, one more time in addition to the initial awards. The current general attitude among the Waymarking community seems to that businesses do not need to be brought into this fold. 

I don't think common, even "best of", businesses deserve our recognition. They are not as worthy as award-winning architectural prizes, which are much more interesting and lasting.

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43 minutes ago, DougK said:

I don't think common, even "best of", businesses deserve our recognition. They are not as worthy as award-winning architectural prizes, which are much more interesting and lasting.

In general I agree. On the other hand there might be companies, that do deserve our recognition for whatever reason (maybe because they donated lots of money for a social projects, or because they own and are situated in the most beautiful house of a certain city, ...). In other words, I would leave it up to the officers, if they accept company waymarks in a few selected situations.

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Thank you for your comments and for the issues raised, this is why is good to bring this to the forums first.

So the best way to go is the category to be for Awards given to the physical structures and not the activities that are performed there.

Also a Waymarker can only post one  Waymark for each structure:
- If a Structure as won different Awards each Waymarker can only post one Award in the Category. 
- If a location as won the same award multiple years this should be posted as one Waymark.  

 

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Towns and Villages in Bloom.

2 hours ago, razalas said:

So the best way to go is the category to be for Awards given to the physical structures and not the activities that are performed there.

Also a Waymarker can only post one  Waymark for each structure:
- If a Structure as won different Awards each Waymarker can only post one Award in the Category.
- If a location as won the same award multiple years this should be posted as one Waymark. 

 

Unfortunately that tactic, awarding physical structures, may eliminate "Towns and Villages in Bloom" (known here as Communities in Bloom), towns and villages worthy of recognition. I'd hate to see these excluded. Their awards, though, might well be on view at city hall or a similar place.

Another thought - these awards have also been placed on, or included in, towns' welcome signs.

Keith

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4 hours ago, BK-Hunters said:

 

Towns and Villages in Bloom.

Unfortunately that tactic, awarding physical structures, may eliminate "Towns and Villages in Bloom" (known here as Communities in Bloom), towns and villages worthy of recognition. I'd hate to see these excluded. Their awards, though, might well be on view at city hall or a similar place.

Another thought - these awards have also been placed on, or included in, towns' welcome signs.

Keith

Australia has the same idea with its Keep Australia Beautiful Tidy Towns Awards eg Barmera, South Australia 2017. These awards often appear on the town's Welcome Sign & a plaque in the council chambers I'd say. There are also awards for Sustainable Cities & Clean Beaches & Waterways. 

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The question is: What exactly is a "structure"? In the initial posting there is a street mentioned as one of the examples. Is that also a structure? If not, it would also be eliminated from the list of possible waymarks (which would be a shame).

Also, here in Vienna, Austria we have the S45, an old train line, that earned an award for its restoration. I've already taken photos of that award and hope that I didn't do it in vain. ;-)

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Structure was a bad choice or word, what i meant with structure was a physical location (building, bridge, street, garden, town, ..).

I have never seen a town's Welcome Sign with the awards, do you think this should be accepted?

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