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GC4MZ8P was hidden sept 9 2013 and no finds. 351 DNFs! I searched this place inside out and no geocache. broken glass, rocks, garbage, weeds, dirt, mosquitos, sticks, garter snakes, moss, snails, salamanders, trees, poison ivy, stumps, vines, rain, snow, leaves, ...where is it? The gps is jumpy on the escarpment but it settles in one area. I been there 173 times! :mad:

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I and, I bet, hundreds other cachers are rooting for you. I've been to Toronto a few times since this published, but never long enough to spare the detour to Hamilton, just to log a DNF. I imagine, if I were you, I'd have given up around attempt 15 or so, but you keep going back. I'll be happy when you eventually find it.

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Unsure how I feel about the recent NA log Meerkat posted. I feel like if the CO can verify its existence with a reviewer or other cachers there is no need to Archive it.

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The most recent confirmation of the cache being in place was October 4th, 2016.

 

The owner previously confirmed the cache was in place on April 12th, 2015 and May 6th, 2014.

 

I wouldn't consider archival to be appropriate just because it's difficult.

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I have been watching this cache since its release and still can't imagine what is the linchpin behind its elusiveness. Everything gets found eventually, I might even give it a crack some day. Probably only to be part of the rogue's gallery that has tried.

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Here's a shot in the dark. I once saw a cache hidden under a clump of dirt. The clump of dirt had been glued into a mass and the micro cache was hidden within and under it. Very clever. One would have to turn the clump over to find the cache. I doubt that this is the solution because Carni has mentioned that nothing needs to be "turned over" because the cache is in our view. I just thought I would share that. Good luck!

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Unsure how I feel about the recent NA log Meerkat posted.

That's easy: it's completely unjustified. There's no indication that GeoMeerkats has ever attempted to find the cache, and the owner is actively maintaining the cache. I wouldn't expect any reaction from a reviewer.

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I think Ockham's razor is probably the best geocaching tool needed to explain this; i.e., the simplest or most obvious explanation is that the cache does not exist. It isn't there and never was.

I've toyed with the idea of doing one of these myself.

How easy then to replace a damp log from the comfort of my chair. How easy to say on an CO's maintenance log that it is there, hundreds of DNF's from veteran cachers notwithstanding.

Then when I tire of it, simply place a real container and archive it after the first find.

All very pointless, but good fun nu?

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I haven't been to GZ, or even been in that province, but my guess is that cachers are focusing at too low of an elevation. Sounds like many searches have involved moving things around, but the CO has said that nothing needs to be moved to find the cache. Would love to give this one a few tries, but not sure I'll ever be in the area.

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I've searched a couple of times already, living an hour away, but haven't made too much of an effort, feeling that any search efforts I put forward would by now be redundant and definitely insufficient. I'm just watching now. It's at the point that it feels like dumb luck will be the only way this thing will be found.

I also reiterate the point - the CO is reliable and trustworthy. If he says the cache is there, the cache is there. If it's not, oh boy will he be in for a mass lynching :P

 

I do find it hard to believe that the cache is still effectively in pristine condition, if nothing needs to be moved to find it, and it's in clear view. After yet another search effort like this past weekend, options for how it could be hidden seem non-existent. Unless he has to visit and 'fix it up' after an event like that. But if that's true, then it really can't be that hard to find if he can find it that easily to verify it.

 

Which is why this is such an elusive and painfully fascinating listing...

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We looked for one of those that we could not find, we resorted to using a metal detector. :rolleyes:

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