Pup Patrol Posted August 2, 2016 Share Posted August 2, 2016 From today's newsletter: Plus, you can earn the International Geocaching Day 2016 souvenir by attending an event or logging a geocache on August 20. (Bonus points for doing both!) IMPORTANT: International Geocaching Day Events must be submitted no later than Saturday, August 6. B. Quote Link to comment
Pup Patrol Posted August 5, 2016 Author Share Posted August 5, 2016 2 week countdown.... for those of us who love souvenirs. B. Quote Link to comment
fendmar Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 From today's newsletter: Plus, you can earn the International Geocaching Day 2016 souvenir by attending an event or logging a geocache on August 20. (Bonus points for doing both!) IMPORTANT: International Geocaching Day Events must be submitted no later than Saturday, August 6. B. I can't decide if the bolded part means there are two separate souvenirs, one for grabbing a cache and another for attending an event, or if they just mean brownie points. Quote Link to comment
+Spacemann Spiff Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 (edited) I can't decide if the bolded part means there are two separate souvenirs, one for grabbing a cache and another for attending an event, or if they just mean brownie points. Yes, can someone please clarify? Two separate souvenirs? Or just one? Thanks, John Edited August 15, 2016 by Spacemann Spiff Quote Link to comment
+fuzziebear3 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 "Plus, you can earn the International Geocaching Day 2016 souvenir by attending an event or logging a geocache on August 20. (Bonus points for doing both!)" One souvenir. You can earn it by doing either of the requirements. Quote Link to comment
+AustinMN Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 "Plus, you can earn the International Geocaching Day 2016 souvenir by attending an event or logging a geocache on August 20. (Bonus points for doing both!)" One souvenir. You can earn it by doing either of the requirements. Not sure what the underlined part means. Quote Link to comment
+Spacemann Spiff Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 @fuzziebear3: I agree with fendmar and AustinMN. Our question was not about "the" or "or" or "either." Our question was about "Bonus points for doing both!" Quote Link to comment
+fuzziebear3 Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Bonus points aren't really worth anything. Bonus points, bragging rights, whatever. I'm still sure there is only one souvenir. Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 It kind of says something about the state of the game that Groundspeak can't make a jovial comment about imaginary "bonus points" without convincing people that there are actual "points" to be won. Quote Link to comment
+AustinMN Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 It kind of says something about the state of the game that Groundspeak can't make a jovial comment about imaginary "bonus points" without convincing people that there are actual "points" to be won. It's the "entitlement" thing sticking it's head up again in another form. Quote Link to comment
+Spacemann Spiff Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 It kind of says something about the state of the game that Groundspeak can't make a jovial comment about imaginary "bonus points" without convincing people that there are actual "points" to be won. Gee, heaven forbid that the forums are used as a place to discuss topics and ask questions freely. Like, you know, a forum. Quote Link to comment
fendmar Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 It kind of says something about the state of the game that Groundspeak can't make a jovial comment about imaginary "bonus points" without convincing people that there are actual "points" to be won. So then you know for a fact that comment was referencing brownie points? Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 It kind of says something about the state of the game that Groundspeak can't make a jovial comment about imaginary "bonus points" without convincing people that there are actual "points" to be won. Gee, heaven forbid that the forums are used as a place to discuss topics and ask questions freely. Like, you know, a forum. I don't see anybody trying to close the discussion here. Quote Link to comment
+MKFmly Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 OT There used to be a rule, most of us anti-entitlement folks followed If you don’t have anything nice (or relevant) to say, don’t say anything at all. It kind of says something about the state of the geocaching forum when any and all questions/comments are met with/subject to veiled and overt "ad hominem" comments. Quote Link to comment
+CanadianRockies Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Bonus points aren't really worth anything. Bonus points, bragging rights, whatever. That would be news to my high school and university math teachers who sometimes put bonus points on their tests. Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 It kind of says something about the state of the game that Groundspeak can't make a jovial comment about imaginary "bonus points" without convincing people that there are actual "points" to be won. It's the "entitlement" thing sticking it's head up again in another form. Again, I hesitate to call it "entitlement." New people come to the game in a different way, with a different set of values. Now in addition to finds and souvenirs, they want "points." I hate to see the game go that direction, but what can you do? Quote Link to comment
+Spacemann Spiff Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I don't see anybody trying to close the discussion here. Perhaps, but I sure see someone being sarcastic toward those who asked a simple question. Like MKFmly said: If you don’t have anything nice (or relevant) to say, don’t say anything at all. Quote Link to comment
+narcissa Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 I don't see anybody trying to close the discussion here. Perhaps, but I sure see someone being sarcastic toward those who asked a simple question. I'm sorry my comment was misinterpreted as sarcasm. It was earnest. Quote Link to comment
+lumbricus Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 From the newsletter 08/16/2016: "This Saturday, August 20, is International Geocaching Day! It’s the perfect day to get outside, find a few (dozen) geocaches and spend time with your fellow players. By finding a geocache or attending an event on this special day, you’ll earn the International Geocaching Day 2016 souvenir." Now it's crystal clear. Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 I don't see anybody trying to close the discussion here. Perhaps, but I sure see someone being sarcastic toward those who asked a simple question. Like MKFmly said: If you don't have anything nice (or relevant) to say, don't say anything at all. Well gee. A few posts ago you were writing that this is a place for discussion, you know, a forum. Now you're saying, that if someone posts something that "isn't nice" they *shouldn't* use this place for discussion. Quote Link to comment
+Clarkbowman Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 From today's newsletter: Plus, you can earn the International Geocaching Day 2016 souvenir by attending an event or logging a geocache on August 20. (Bonus points for doing both!) IMPORTANT: International Geocaching Day Events must be submitted no later than Saturday, August 6. B. The (Bonus points for doing both!) It's a Chocolate Chip Cookie Quote Link to comment
+AustinMN Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) From today's newsletter: Plus, you can earn the International Geocaching Day 2016 souvenir by attending an event or logging a geocache on August 20. (Bonus points for doing both!) IMPORTANT: International Geocaching Day Events must be submitted no later than Saturday, August 6. B. The (Bonus points for doing both!) It's a Chocolate Chip Cookie You can't get off that easy on the internet. Case in point: With or without nuts? Edited August 16, 2016 by AustinMN Quote Link to comment
+J Grouchy Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Amazing. It's like a slow motion train wreck. Seems like if they were offering ACTUAL bonus points, they would actually state that and explain it further. The fact that such a thing even needs to be clarified is just kinda...sad. Quote Link to comment
kanchan Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 W.r.t. Bonus points: I think it's just an American humor, or maybe only a West Coast thing? Here, people often try to look silly or funny by (not really) trying to move, attract or motivate people using something with no value or something that doesn't even exist. I see they do this from time to time. It's pretty common. I was born and raised in Japan, and I never saw people do those. I don't know about other cultures, but I won't be surprised if someone who's not so familiar with this type of humor didn't get this in the first place. It's not that they don't understand humor. It's just one type of humor which is common in certain cultures than others. We know that Groundspeak is a U.S.-centric company? Quote Link to comment
fendmar Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 From today's newsletter: Plus, you can earn the International Geocaching Day 2016 souvenir by attending an event or logging a geocache on August 20. (Bonus points for doing both!) IMPORTANT: International Geocaching Day Events must be submitted no later than Saturday, August 6. B. The (Bonus points for doing both!) It's a Chocolate Chip Cookie I wish! Quote Link to comment
+Reno8 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) So now I'm confused! Are we getting a chocolate chip cookie or not??? Does it come with nuts or not? This is all so confusing. Edited August 16, 2016 by Reno8 Quote Link to comment
+Ambrosia Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Hm, maybe it is an U.S. thing. When I was younger, whenever something great/nice unexpectedly happened, it was common for people to say loudly, "BONUS!". We still do it from time to time. It just means that you get something nice and extra that you weren't expecting. It's not really something tangible, however. Perhaps a state of mind? Quote Link to comment
+MartyBartfast Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Perhaps it would have been less ambiguous to say "Extra kudos for doing both" Quote Link to comment
+cerberus1 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Hm, maybe it is an U.S. thing. When I was younger, whenever something great/nice unexpectedly happened, it was common for people to say loudly, "BONUS!". We still do it from time to time. It just means that you get something nice and extra that you weren't expecting. It's not really something tangible, however. Perhaps a state of mind? +1 Yep. Quote Link to comment
Pup Patrol Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 good grief. B. Quote Link to comment
+The A-Team Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Perhaps it would have been less ambiguous to say "Extra kudos for doing both" "Hey, I earned all these extra kudos for Mission GC, but they aren't showing up on my profile. When can we expect them to be shown in our stats? Is there an API call we can use to get the kudos into our third-party stats?" The tricky part of being a company with a significant global userbase is wording communications such that they make sense to the majority of the users. Using slang, colloquialisms, and regional terminology will inevitably lead to misunderstandings and confusion. Quote Link to comment
kanchan Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Perhaps it would have been less ambiguous to say "Extra kudos for doing both" "Hey, I earned all these extra kudos for Mission GC, but they aren't showing up on my profile. When can we expect them to be shown in our stats? Is there an API call we can use to get the kudos into our third-party stats?" "Hey, I have more questions. I'm thinking to create a Challenge based on kudos (I think it's cool as nobody has done it before!), but I'm afraid that such Challenges may not be attainable by someone who is new to the game (e.g., after the International Geocaching Day 2016). Are you planning to award kudos in the future, or are they only a one-time thing? I hope it's the former! Of course, my assumption is that you are going to provide us an API so someone could write the Project-GC Challenge checker, but The A-Team has already raised that question above. Thanks!" Quote Link to comment
+fuzziebear3 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Yeah, I used to love Kudos. Quote Link to comment
+Isonzo Karst Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 RE kudos, I first encountered them as an airline "food" offering. I assumed they would be dreadful and did not eat them. I do think you need to mindful of the dual issues of cachers eating caches and, possibly, less likely caches eating cachers (regional only, and has not been recently reported). (Seems like a bad idea to conflate food items with caching, even challenge caches? certainly they don't belong in the box? if attached only via the API, could work....) Quote Link to comment
+cerberus1 Posted August 20, 2016 Share Posted August 20, 2016 Had a lotta work to do today, so figured I'd hit one of the local-to-me cache n dashes, park n grabs, or whatever folks are calling them these days to get back home quick. Stuck six in the GPSr as a JIC, since this type is known for their quality containers... Found one outta six, a lpc of all things, so I can no longer claim lpc-free on my profile. Of course it's (now) multiple logs are almost full, with an absent owner too. Quote Link to comment
+T0SHEA Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 From today's newsletter: Plus, you can earn the International Geocaching Day 2016 souvenir by attending an event or logging a geocache on August 20. (Bonus points for doing both!) IMPORTANT: International Geocaching Day Events must be submitted no later than Saturday, August 6. B. Okay we did both, attended an event and also found a cache today (August 20, 2016) Where are my bonus points? Got the one souvenir but NO BONUS POINTS are they hiding? Quote Link to comment
+Harry Dolphin Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Had a lotta work to do today, so figured I'd hit one of the local-to-me cache n dashes, park n grabs, or whatever folks are calling them these days to get back home quick. Stuck six in the GPSr as a JIC, since this type is known for their quality containers... Found one outta six, a lpc of all things, so I can no longer claim lpc-free on my profile. Of course it's (now) multiple logs are almost full, with an absent owner too. Well, I do prefer hikes in the woods, but when I'm travelling I like caches and dashes too. So, I'll do both. I was in Delaware today. Rail trail! I like them! People seem to like to dump trash here. Cache was on the ground. Both ends of the container, and the log, were chewed on. CO lives in Tennessee. I will not seek the rest of the caches in this series. Quote Link to comment
+niraD Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Where are my bonus points? Got the one souvenir but NO BONUS POINTS are they hiding? Here you go... Quote Link to comment
+cerberus1 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Had a lotta work to do today, so figured I'd hit one of the local-to-me cache n dashes, park n grabs, or whatever folks are calling them these days to get back home quick. Stuck six in the GPSr as a JIC, since this type is known for their quality containers... Found one outta six, a lpc of all things, so I can no longer claim lpc-free on my profile. Of course it's (now) multiple logs are almost full, with an absent owner too. Well, I do prefer hikes in the woods, but when I'm travelling I like caches and dashes too. So, I'll do both. I was in Delaware today. Rail trail! I like them! People seem to like to dump trash here. Cache was on the ground. Both ends of the container, and the log, were chewed on. CO lives in Tennessee. I will not seek the rest of the caches in this series. Already getting ribbed about it, now that I can only claim to be challenge and lab cache free. - The other 2/3rds conned me into a last-minute date grid thing, and the only cache around turned out to be a guard rail hide, so that's out now too. Burdened for stats... Quote Link to comment
+captnemo Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Had a lotta work to do today, so figured I'd hit one of the local-to-me cache n dashes, park n grabs, or whatever folks are calling them these days to get back home quick. Stuck six in the GPSr as a JIC, since this type is known for their quality containers... Found one outta six, a lpc of all things, so I can no longer claim lpc-free on my profile. Of course it's (now) multiple logs are almost full, with an absent owner too. Well, I do prefer hikes in the woods, but when I'm travelling I like caches and dashes too. So, I'll do both. I was in Delaware today. Rail trail! I like them! People seem to like to dump trash here. Cache was on the ground. Both ends of the container, and the log, were chewed on. CO lives in Tennessee. I will not seek the rest of the caches in this series. Already getting ribbed about it, now that I can only claim to be challenge and lab cache free. - The other 2/3rds conned me into a last-minute date grid thing, and the only cache around turned out to be a guard rail hide, so that's out now too. Burdened for stats... Worked well for me. Found a regular ammo can and my First in So Dakota. Two souvenirs for one find Quote Link to comment
JeepGPS Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 So...I found and logged a cache (GC6FPP8) on August 20 but did not receive the souvenir. Any way to fix this? Quote Link to comment
+lee737 Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 You should check your souvenirs more carefully.... Quote Link to comment
JeepGPS Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 So...I found and logged a cache (GC6FPP8) on August 20 but did not receive the souvenir. Any way to fix this? OK, I just checked and it was there. In the past when I logged a souvenir related cache (new state, etc.) I would get an instant pop-up notification. I didn't see it this time. Carry on! Quote Link to comment
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