Geocaching on the Moon?

[Brohamson]

I was wondering if I could geocache elsewhere. Any comments?

[Keystone]

The listing guidelines answer your question.

 

Geocaches are allowed in space, on other planets and in spacecraft.

We have published and will continue to publish cache listings in outer space, such as in the International Space Station or on Mars.

[+J Grouchy]

Wouldn't it be called something different, then? Lunacaching?

[+Viajero Perdido]

Marketing.

 

Technologically it's impossible, at least until they get a constellation of GPS satellites in orbit around the moon, and conjure up some sort of coordinate system. But we knew that.

[+The A-Team]

...and conjure up some sort of coordinate system.

Selenographic coordinates

[+Viajero Perdido]

Right then, let's go do it!

 

[+Alkhalikoi]

Wouldn't it be called something different, then? Lunacaching?

 

If study of the earth is geology, study of the moon is selenology, and study of Mars is aerology, I think Lunar caching, properly, would be Selenocaching and Martian caching, properly, would be Aerocaching

[+on4bam]

It would be:

 

1. Commercial ($$$ to get there).

2. You'd have to interact with employees of a business.

3. landowners permission ??

 

So reading the guidelines the caches would never be published.

 

Measuring up coordinates and afterwards seekers navigating would be a challenge. Given the narrow angle to "see", let alone receive the earth orbiting satellites there's no way to get even approximate coordinates. And then there's "the dark side of the moon"

Edited March 31, 2016 by on4bam

[+AustinMN]

It would be:

 

1. Commercial ($$$ to get there).

2. You'd have to interact with employees of a business.

3. landowners permission ??

 

So reading the guidelines the caches would never be published.

 

Measuring up coordinates and afterwards seekers navigating would be a challenge. Given the narrow angle to "see", let alone receive the earth orbiting satellites there's no way to get even approximate coordinates. And then there's "the dark side of the moon"

 

And yet there is an active hide on the ISS.

[+on4bam]

It would be:

 

1. Commercial ($$$ to get there).

2. You'd have to interact with employees of a business.

3. landowners permission ??

 

So reading the guidelines the caches would never be published.

 

Measuring up coordinates and afterwards seekers navigating would be a challenge. Given the narrow angle to "see", let alone receive the earth orbiting satellites there's no way to get even approximate coordinates. And then there's "the dark side of the moon"

 

And yet there is an active hide on the ISS.

 

I know. And that's why I think that it's wrong to always deny cachelistings where even vague hints of commercialism or where there is interaction with employees needed (eventhough it's clearly stated there's no obligation to buy something).

Just look at this post where "interaction with employees" and "commercial" are already seen as an hurdle to get a nature walk cache series approved.

There are several instances of "do as I say, not as I do", unfortunately.

Edited March 31, 2016 by on4bam

[+The A-Team]

Right then, let's go do it!

 

Let's do it!

 

Now, does anyone happen to have a spare satellite constellation lying around that we can turn into the SPS (Selenographic Positioning System)?

 

It would be:

1. Commercial ($$$ to get there).

2. You'd have to interact with employees of a business.

There wouldn't be an issue if you use your own spacecraft. The last time I checked, there are no commercial businesses operating on the moon.

 

3. landowners permission ??

Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies - Article VI

The activities of non-governmental entities in outer space, including the Moon and other celestial bodies, shall require authorization and continuing supervision by the appropriate State Party to the Treaty.

It looks like you'd have to get permission from your government to hide a cache. If you can secure permission, though, then you're good to go!

[Keystone]

It would be:

 

1. Commercial ($$$ to get there).

2. You'd have to interact with employees of a business.

3. landowners permission ??

 

So reading the guidelines the caches would never be published.

 

Measuring up coordinates and afterwards seekers navigating would be a challenge. Given the narrow angle to "see", let alone receive the earth orbiting satellites there's no way to get even approximate coordinates. And then there's "the dark side of the moon"

 

And yet there is an active hide on the ISS.

 

I know. And that's why I think that it's wrong to always deny cachelistings where even vague hints of commercialism or where there is interaction with employees needed (eventhough it's clearly stated there's no obligation to buy something).

Just look at this post where "interaction with employees" and "commercial" are already seen as an hurdle to get a nature walk cache series approved.

There are several instances of "do as I say, not as I do", unfortunately.

But in this thread we're talking about caches in Space, which is fun, and not talking about commercial caches on Earth. That is why Geocaching HQ found it necessary to add the listing guideline I quoted in Post #2. That guideline overrides the "Yeah, but what about this..." situations that you delight in raising in order to take discussions off-topic.

[+Team Hugs]

It would be:

 

1. Commercial ($$ to get there).

 

That's not inherently a barrier to a lunar cache. I spend money to get to caches all the time ... entrance fees for state parks, admissions fees for zoos, and so on.

[+Kalkendotters]

They just published a letterbox on the moon ( https://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC6DEQN_sea-of-tranquility-moon-cache ) so who will be the FTF ... ?

And there are a few others in the vincinity of this cache.

Edited March 31, 2016 by Kalkendotters

[+on4bam]

They just published a letterbox on the moon ( https://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC6DEQN_sea-of-tranquility-moon-cache ) so who will be the FTF ... ?

And there are a few others in the vincinity of this cache.

 

It will be archived on Saturday I'm sure.

[Brohamson]

It would be:

 

1. Commercial ($$$ to get there).

2. You'd have to interact with employees of a business.

3. landowners permission ??

 

So reading the guidelines the caches would never be published.

 

Measuring up coordinates and afterwards seekers navigating would be a challenge. Given the narrow angle to "see", let alone receive the earth orbiting satellites there's no way to get even approximate coordinates. And then there's "the dark side of the moon"

 

And yet there is an active hide on the ISS.

[Brohamson]

In School Suspension?

[Brohamson]

Oops. Looks like I don't know how to use this. I'll just shut up now.

[Keystone]

"ISS" means "International Space Station," which hosts a geocache. (Well, a travel bug actually, but rules were bent considering the novelty of the location!)

[+Manville Possum]

"ISS" means "International Space Station," which hosts a geocache. (Well, a travel bug actually, but rules were bent considering the novelty of the location!)

 

We still have the Waymarking category for the ISS. Now, if I could only find another player.

[+Manville Possum]

"ISS" means "International Space Station," which hosts a geocache. (Well, a travel bug actually, but rules were bent considering the novelty of the location!)

 

We still have the Waymarking category for the ISS. Now, if I could only find another player.

[BFG99]

They just published a letterbox on the moon ( https://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC6DEQN_sea-of-tranquility-moon-cache ) so who will be the FTF ... ?

And there are a few others in the vincinity of this cache.

 

I like how it's "wheelchair accessible", but there are no campfires.