Cheese Monkey Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I'm know of a great place for a hide that will hopefully be part of a very tricky series. However it is less than 0.1 mile away from the nearest existing hide. However it is at the bottom of a cliff, the nearest hide is at the top, a 15 minute walk away at least. Does that count for anything or are the rules applied rigidly? I guess there are ways around it, but I would like to formulate a plan of attack for what I hope will be a great and in part very difficult series Thanks Quote Link to comment
+MartyBartfast Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 The rule would almost certainly be applied strictly in that situation, the UK reviewers are quite fastidious about it. They might be persuaded to let it go if you were 160m away and also at the bottom of the cliff, but I can't imagine they would if it was significantly closer than 161m. Your best bet is find out who your local reviewer is (check who published a recent cache in the area), and Email them with your idea before you put any effort into it. Quote Link to comment
Cheese Monkey Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 Thanks for the advice. Hopefully they will be lenient, I could place a rubbish (imo) cache 161m away or a great one that works with my series idea 110m away. Quote Link to comment
+speakers-corner Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Try setting it out as a Multi, with the base of the cliff as a virtual waypoint. Quote Link to comment
Cheese Monkey Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 Try setting it out as a Multi, with the base of the cliff as a virtual waypoint. Exactly what I am intending I think. May end up with a few multis like that. No reply from reviewer as yet, so will work both out and see what happens! Quote Link to comment
+Oxford Stone Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I got away with <0.1 mile across the Thames. Other cache (now archived) near a low bank so a canoeist could get it; mine not. No-one was going to do both caches in less than 10 minutes. So I salute the reviewer's judgement. Have a Plan B but submit Plan A and see what happens! (I hope the cliff is stable and safe...?) Quote Link to comment
+dartymoor Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Gosh, what pessimistic people! This is a guideline, NOT a rule - and is at the discretion of the reviewer. There are exceptions to this guideline for the exact reason you give, and they are applied as intended. For example; GC4EMRV - placed at the same time as GC4ENPQ yet only 69 meters apart. How? Because there's an obvious river, the CO explained this at submission (I assume) and the reviewer followed the guidelines. If you can provide the same justification this CO did on submission, I can't see why it would be refused. Quote Link to comment
+Graculus Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Submit the cache so it can be checked (make sure you make that clear in a Reviewer note that you don't want it published yet). Then we can advise you. Cliffs are very subjective. If it was a vertical cliff that only a serious mountaineer could climb it might be OK. But if it's just a really steep slope you could climb up then probably not. But either way we can't give an answer without knowing the location. Chris Graculus Volunteer UK Reviewer for geocaching.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- UK Geocaching Policies Wiki Geocaching.com Help Center UK Geocaching Information & Resources website Quote Link to comment
+Mad H@ter Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Submit the cache so it can be checked (make sure you make that clear in a Reviewer note that you don't want it published yet). Then we can advise you. Cliffs are very subjective. If it was a vertical cliff that only a serious mountaineer could climb it might be OK. But if it's just a really steep slope you could climb up then probably not. But either way we can't give an answer without knowing the location. Chris Graculus Volunteer UK Reviewer for geocaching.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- UK Geocaching Policies Wiki Geocaching.com Help Center UK Geocaching Information & Resources website Chris, would this be similar for a cache in the middle of a 1/4 mile long tunnel with another cache 250 to 300 feet away on the surface? Quote Link to comment
+T.D.M.22 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Gosh, what pessimistic people! Not pessimistic, just experienced. It's not pessimistic to assume you would die if shot in the head, because that's most people's experience. Sure, you might get the cache. That's where the saying plan for the worst, hope for the best comes from. Quote Link to comment
+Mallah Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Yes, speak to the reviewer first, then if it can't be published speak to the owner of the existing cache to see if they can move it a bit further away. I did this with one of mine as I had an absolutely fantastic spot for one which just would not work elsewhere The owner kindly moved theirs as it could easily be placed anywhere. Quote Link to comment
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