Farwalker n' Fields Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Who do I contact and talk to if I have a problem with a reviewer? I am trying to hide and publish my first geocache but the volunteer reviewing my geocache asserts that it is in Indian Reservation Land despite the fact I have a vast amount of evidence to prove it is not. Please help. Quote Link to comment
+J Grouchy Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 http://support.Groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=476 Quote Link to comment
Keystone Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 You can write to Geocaching HQ through the Help Center to ask for a second look. Be sure to select "Appeals" from the menu when writing your message. There are more detailed instructions on the Appeals process in this Help Center article: http://support.Groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=476 Please note, after your listing was archived, your reviewer would not be alerted to see the additional information you posted. You would need to contact him by email. It might be a more productive exercise to ask the tribe to modify its GIS mapping files if you believe there was an error. Quote Link to comment
+Mn-treker Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 (edited) The tribe does not take care of GIS files. That is done at the county level. I have found that a web organization Called the Beacon that provides this service to the counties has a few problems With aligning property lines correctly with airial photos. But still the county that The property resides in shall have the difinative say as to ownership, not the reviewer. I would check with the county. I have had this argument with my reviewers More than once. I win with county proof. I have found that sometimes reviewers use Google, which is very unreliable as to Correct lines for WMA, State forest, wildlife refuge and such. They can't seem to get it right. Edited August 28, 2015 by Mn-treker Quote Link to comment
+Mausebiber Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 All you have to do is, to provide the permission of the land owner to the reviewer that you may place a geocache on his land. Im almost sure, if you contact Grondspeak they want to see this permission. Quote Link to comment
+T.D.M.22 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Who do I contact and talk to if I have a problem with a reviewer? I am trying to hide and publish my first geocache but the volunteer reviewing my geocache asserts that it is in Indian Reservation Land despite the fact I have a vast amount of evidence to prove it is not. Please help. Reservation land or not it's a permission issue now. So did you tell your reviewer you have permission? Maybe show the reviewer an email stating so? You did get permission right? Quote Link to comment
Farwalker n' Fields Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 Thank you everyone. I do have verbal permission from Tim Mooney whom manages the group that takes care of the Francis C. Carter Memorial Preserve. I will pursue written permission. Reviewer Brad (gpsfun) still insists that the cache in in Reservation lands. He seems to be following one EPA Text document instead of using a map or the maps I have provided. EPA Narragansett Indian Tribe Document http://www.epa.gov/region1/govt/tribes/narragansett.html Tim Mooney - The Nature Conservancy - Francis C. Carter Memorial Preserve tmooney@tnc.org (401) 529-1072 The Nature Conservancy Francis C. Carter Memorial Preserve http://www.nature.org/ourinitiatives/regions/northamerica/unitedstates/rhodeisland/placesweprotect/francis-c-carter-memorial-preserve.xml Trail Map of the Francis C. Carter Memorial Preserve http://www.nature.org/ourinitiatives/regions/northamerica/unitedstates/rhodeisland/placesweprotect/carter-preserve-trail-map.pdf Property Card for the Francis C. Carter Preserve to The Nature Conservancy http://charlestown.mapxpress.net/ags_map/temp_pdf/24-1-propcard.pdf'>http://charlestown.mapxpress.net/ags_map/temp_pdf/24-1-propcard.pdf "In the first place" (GC624QR) http://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC624QR_in-the-first-place Google Maps 41°26'26.0"N 71°39'39.0"W (location of GC624QR) https://www.google.com/maps/place/41%C2%B026'26.0%22N+71%C2%B039'39.0%22W/@41.4405624,-71.6606808,150m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0 Town of Charlestown Rhode Island map: http://charlestown.mapxpress.net/ags_map/ Quote Link to comment
+geodarts Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) Property issues can get tricky sometimes. Where I live, there are large areas managed by the National Park Service, which does not permit caching, but a single trail can take you through four jurisdictions, each with different land management policies. It's taught me to be very aware of where I am - particularly when I was more active in placing caches. More than once reviewers identified caches on state land (caching is permitted within three feet of an established trail) as being on federal land, and a few caches were published on federal land in turn. Sometimes the two locations were miles from the boundary and was simply a matter of how the reviewers were reading the maps. But add two other jurisdictions as well as some private tracts and you get the picture. In most cases, with a little persistence, we were able to work things out with the reviewers, and in turn brought problematic caches to their attention as situations arose. Some cachers felt it was not worth the effort and simply retrieved the containers, but to me it was simply part of the process. It certainly seems to me that the area identified above is part of the conservancy and that you have been very thorough. Hopefully, though, you can continue to work with the reviewer, since in the long run it has always felt to me like it was the most productive way to do it. Perhaps if you get written permission from the land manager, he can make clear that the land is not on native land. Edited August 30, 2015 by geodarts Quote Link to comment
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