+T0SHEA Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) On 10/20/2017 at 4:30 PM, Manville Possum said: I'll try etched in stone and if that fails, I'll photoshop a space invader on it. If you're gonna Photoshop it, put in an error, like a misspelling - then it would REALLY fit in "Human Error". OR - instead, photoshop the space invader upside down and shoot for two categories... Keith Edited October 24, 2017 by BK-Hunters Quote Link to comment
+PISA-caching Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 36 minutes ago, BK-Hunters said: If you're gonna Photoshop it, put in an error, like a misspelling - then it would REALLY fit in "Human Error". OR - instead, photoshop the space invader upside down and shoot for two categories... Keith If cheating is allowed: Claim that it was moved and post it to "Relocated structures". :-) Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 8 hours ago, kaschper69 said: Because, who really believes in such a thing? Myself and others of the Christian faith. I'm sure that to nonbelievers think that this is just a silly sign, but to me it's not. It's a reminder to me that Christ is returning. It is a quote from Revelations in the Bible. It has stood the test of time, it's old. It's concrete and formed as one solid piece. What is becoming of Waymarking. I believe the end is near. Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 6 hours ago, PISA-caching said: If cheating is allowed: Claim that it was moved and post it to "Relocated structures". :-) Sorry, at first I did not get your joke. I did not understand there was a category called human error. It's not cheating if I actually place a space invader on the marker is it? You know, jokes aside. I find it interesting. I took the time to Waymark it with pictures and coordinates, and I would like to list it as MY waymark. My son and I were having a nice outing that day and it is the only one item that I felt compelled to waymark, and I took several pictures that day. Now, I come here wanting to waymark 1 item that I don't know where exactly to put it, so I come here to ask. I'm only looking for 1 category to place my new WM in. Is that so difficult for the community here to help? 2 Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Wayfrog, I found 37 categories for signs, and none seem to be fitting for my new WM. Would you care to help me find a category for it? Thank you. Quote Link to comment
+fi67 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 24 minutes ago, Manville Possum said: Wayfrog, I found 37 categories for signs, and none seem to be fitting for my new WM. Would you care to help me find a category for it? Thank you. All the categories in the Signs department are for signs that have some relation to the location of the sign, how weak ever, but all those signs say: "Here ..." Your sign has a general message that is not refer to the actual location. I still believe, Etched in Stone is the best place (but I am not an officer). Was it rejected? Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 29 minutes ago, fi67 said: All the categories in the Signs department are for signs that have some relation to the location of the sign, how weak ever, but all those signs say: "Here ..." Your sign has a general message that is not refer to the actual location. I still believe, Etched in Stone is the best place (but I am not an officer). Was it rejected? The reviewer thought it was flat and the letters were painted on, and it needed to last 100 years. I'm guessing it's already been there for 60 years. Also the source of the quote was cited, which is the Bible from Revelations 22:12 From reading the criteria, I believe it fits. Another category I have been viewing is relief art. I believe it meets the criteria there as well. Most of these categories have the same officers, I was hoping for some help and not what I've encountered here. I only ask for very little here. Quote Link to comment
+T0SHEA Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 5 hours ago, Manville Possum said: The reviewer thought it was flat and the letters were painted on, and it needed to last 100 years. I'm guessing it's already been there for 60 years Is there any way you can show that the letters aren't flat and aren't painted on? It sounds as though that may be your best avenue of attack. Keith 1 Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 I have 4 different photos, I'm sure cropping would help. The quote and source were an issue as well. Quote Link to comment
+PISA-caching Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, Manville Possum said: The reviewer thought it was flat and the letters were painted on, and it needed to last 100 years. I'm guessing it's already been there for 60 years. Also the source of the quote was cited, which is the Bible from Revelations 22:12 From reading the criteria, I believe it fits. Another category I have been viewing is relief art. I believe it meets the criteria there as well. Most of these categories have the same officers, I was hoping for some help and not what I've encountered here. I guess, that the idea of "Etched in Stone" is to list long-lasting citations. Therefore they ought to be 3dimensional. If it is just painted on the sign, the text might have been there for 60 years, but it's also possible that is had a different text earlier or will have a different text in the future. If it is not 3dimensional, it's no relief, no? How about "Silhouette Public Art Sculptures"? At least it's a Silhouette of a heart, no? Edited October 25, 2017 by PISA-caching Quote Link to comment
+PISA-caching Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 16 hours ago, Manville Possum said: Sorry, at first I did not get your joke. I did not understand there was a category called human error. It's not cheating if I actually place a space invader on the marker is it? You know, jokes aside. I find it interesting. I took the time to Waymark it with pictures and coordinates, and I would like to list it as MY waymark. My son and I were having a nice outing that day and it is the only one item that I felt compelled to waymark, and I took several pictures that day. Now, I come here wanting to waymark 1 item that I don't know where exactly to put it, so I come here to ask. I'm only looking for 1 category to place my new WM in. Is that so difficult for the community here to help? No Problem. At least you got to know the "Human Error" category now. About the cheating: I was referring to the idea to use photoshop. If you really put a space invader on it, it would be ok. But would the owner like it? :-) Quote Link to comment
+Benchmark Blasterz Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 3 hours ago, PISA-caching said: I guess, that the idea of "Etched in Stone" is to list long-lasting citations. Therefore they ought to be 3dimensional. If it is just painted on the sign, the text might have been there for 60 years, but it's also possible that is had a different text earlier or will have a different text in the future. If it is not 3dimensional, it's no relief, no? How about "Silhouette Public Art Sculptures"? At least it's a Silhouette of a heart, no? I think Silhouette Art could be a better fit than Wayside Shrines, the only other category I could think of for these objects. Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 6 hours ago, PISA-caching said: About the cheating: I was referring to the idea to use photoshop. If you really put a space invader on it, it would be ok. But would the owner like it? :-) I would not deface public or private property, and it's way I was against the space invader category for promoting it. Maybe in slums and ghettos they are considered art. Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 6 hours ago, PISA-caching said: I guess, that the idea of "Etched in Stone" is to list long-lasting citations. Therefore they ought to be 3dimensional. If it is just painted on the sign, the text might have been there for 60 years, but it's also possible that is had a different text earlier or will have a different text in the future. If it is not 3dimensional, it's no relief, no? How about "Silhouette Public Art Sculptures"? At least it's a Silhouette of a heart, no? It is a relief, the letters are about 3/4 inch deep and painted black. Quote Link to comment
+PISA-caching Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Manville Possum said: It is a relief, the letters are about 3/4 inch deep and painted black. Well, to me a "Relief Art Sculpture" needs more than engraved letters. Most headstones (here in Austria) have letters engraved in stone, but that isn't what I would call "Art". On the other hand, I assume that the heart is rather flat, so it's definitely a silhouette and (to me) closer to the term "Art" than engraved letters. You might as well post them in both categories and see what happens. Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, PISA-caching said: Well, to me a "Relief Art Sculpture" needs more than engraved letters. Most headstones (here in Austria) have letters engraved in stone, but that isn't what I would call "Art". On the other hand, I assume that the heart is rather flat, so it's definitely a silhouette and (to me) closer to the term "Art" than engraved letters. You might as well post them in both categories and see what happens. I agree, but what I have encountered is that several of these categories have the same officer, so whatever category I submit it to, they will find an excuse to reject it. IF we had a site admin here, maybe they could help? Quote Link to comment
+PISA-caching Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Yes, I also had waymarks being rejected and I didn't (and sometimes still don't) understand why. Whenever it comes to terms like "art", "old", "interesting" etc. you depend on the good will of an officer. I think the site admins also had to read through the long description of the possible categories and they can also only presume what the officers will decide. Best chance is to contact the leaders and ask for their opinion, if you don't want to waste too much time creating waymarks that get rejected. Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, PISA-caching said: Yes, I also had waymarks being rejected and I didn't (and sometimes still don't) understand why. Whenever it comes to terms like "art", "old", "interesting" etc. you depend on the good will of an officer. I think the site admins also had to read through the long description of the possible categories and they can also only presume what the officers will decide. Best chance is to contact the leaders and ask for their opinion, if you don't want to waste too much time creating waymarks that get rejected. Or just quit Waymarking and having to deal with this group that hijacked it. I believe it's their intent to run off members here. Quote Link to comment
+PISA-caching Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Manville Possum said: Or just quit Waymarking and having to deal with this group that hijacked it. I believe it's their intent to run off members here. Don't be so negative. I think they all try to keep their categories "clean" within the borders that they defined in the category description. Sometimes these borders aren't very clear, but I don't believe that anybody has the intent to run off members. Why would someone do that? I'm an officer in just two categories and I always find it hard to reject waymarks, especially if it's a general problem and nothing that can be fixed easyly. After all we are all only humans and we all have our own opinion about what is art, what is old, what is interesting etc. And I personally always try to understand their arguments like I hope they try to understand mine. Soooo, give it a try, mail the leader of silhouette art sculptures and see what he has to say. Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, PISA-caching said: Don't be so negative. I think they all try to keep their categories "clean" within the borders that they defined in the category description. Sometimes these borders aren't very clear, but I don't believe that anybody has the intent to run off members. Why would someone do that? I'm an officer in just two categories and I always find it hard to reject waymarks, especially if it's a general problem and nothing that can be fixed easyly. After all we are all only humans and we all have our own opinion about what is art, what is old, what is interesting etc. And I personally always try to understand their arguments like I hope they try to understand mine. Soooo, give it a try, mail the leader of silhouette art sculptures and see what he has to say. Some of those categories have inactive leaders, so I can't contact them and ask. I have got negative responses and nothing helpful. I was told my WM would not fit any know category, so I went to another and found the same officer there, so why bother? As many things that are Waymarked, have I found an object that can't? I don't think so. Waymarking has Devilish locations and 666 sightings as categories. Maybe Jesus is just not welcome here? Thank you for your help. Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 25 minutes ago, PISA-caching said: Soooo, give it a try, mail the leader of silhouette art sculptures and see what he has to say. That is the same person that told me that it can't be Waymarked in ANY category, so what now? Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) I was correct about seeing more of these in other States. http://www.thecarpetbagger.org/2012/10/harrison-mayes.html Edited October 25, 2017 by Manville Possum Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Those are public art placed by Henry Harrison "Harrison" Mayes. I was correct about the old part. I believe these can be Waymarked now with more research. Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 The artist that made these and placed them in at least 40 States rode around on this bike and was into Planetary Aviation Evangelism. Space Invaders? Quote Link to comment
+elyob Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Mayes and his signs certainly are famous. If you get lucky, there may be a reference to your sign in a local newspaper for the News Article Location waymark category. http://www.blindpigandtheacorn.com/blind_pig_the_acorn/2011/06/have-you-ever-seen-a-harrison-mayes-cross.html Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, elyob said: Mayes and his signs certainly are famous. If you get lucky, there may be a reference to your sign in a local newspaper for the News Article Location waymark category. I can't find anything locally, but even found a nice youtube video and there is a museum about 2 hours away in Clinton, Tennessee that has a display of his artifacts. Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 It was accepted in the silhouette art sculptures category. Thanks for helping. After 10 years of using this site I'm still not any good at it. I try to keep it simple and found this marker interesting. I was discouraged here, but when I found out what it actually is and who the artist was and that there are others interested in these outside of Waymarking. I believe I can locate more examples of the Harrison Mayes Roadside Art signs. Quote Link to comment
+T0SHEA Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 3 hours ago, Manville Possum said: It was accepted in the silhouette art sculptures category. Thanks for helping. After 10 years of using this site I'm still not any good at it. I try to keep it simple and found this marker interesting. I was discouraged here, but when I found out what it actually is and who the artist was and that there are others interested in these outside of Waymarking. I believe I can locate more examples of the Harrison Mayes Roadside Art signs. Imagine that!!! It turns out that a sufficient amount of research can get a Waymark approved. Kudos for your perseverance. Heck Fire - now you even have the makins' of another obscure category. Keith Quote Link to comment
+PISA-caching Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 6 hours ago, Manville Possum said: It was accepted in the silhouette art sculptures category. Thanks for helping. After 10 years of using this site I'm still not any good at it. I try to keep it simple and found this marker interesting. I was discouraged here, but when I found out what it actually is and who the artist was and that there are others interested in these outside of Waymarking. I believe I can locate more examples of the Harrison Mayes Roadside Art signs. Congratulations. I'm not religious at all and I never heard of the artist, but sometimes I'm dour, especially if someone says "not possible". As far as the officer saying "can't be waymarked in any category", I think that they don't have the time to consider ALL the categories. They have so many waymarks to approve, answer questions etc. So, a second opinion here in the forums is always a good idea. Compared to me you're lucky, because you seem to not care which category your waymark is in. I had a few waymarks that I thought (and still think) fit perfectly in a specific category and they were rejected for different reasons. I had to post them to other categories and although they were accepted there I still think that they are a loss for the category that I chose initially. Quote Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 19 hours ago, Manville Possum said: Those are public art placed by Henry Harrison "Harrison" Mayes. I was correct about the old part. I believe these can be Waymarked now with more research. that's great news. I hope it gets accepted. I, for one, am sorry "we" couldn't be of any more help. I know I went thru the entire listing of waymarks a couple of times, trying to see if I thought it might fit somewhere, and came up empty. Now, reading the additional comments, one problem was that I couldn't see exactly how that was made. It looked (and still does, for me) like it was a metal sign with the lettering painted on. I see I was incorrect (not the first time, not the last). But as I said, good to hear that you may have found a good home for it. I agree that if I had seen it, I would have photo'd it and been looking for a category, too. 2 Quote Link to comment
+Manville Possum Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 9 hours ago, BK-Hunters said: Imagine that!!! It turns out that a sufficient amount of research can get a Waymark approved. Kudos for your perseverance. Heck Fire - now you even have the makins' of another obscure category. Keith I would have thought that there would be an existing category for roadside curio's & oddities or known artists. I could not come up with anything on my own. I believe once that I knew exactly what I was Waymarking it was not just a stoopid sign with a religious message. I thought I had decent photos that show how big this thing is, turns out from research it 13 x 4 feet. Where it's placed was once the highway right of way that the artist called "No Man's Land" according to what I have read. This guy was kinda like Geocachers. He did not ask to place his works of art that he called "Sacred Signs". He placed them in the middle of the night and left muggle messages on them about going to Hell. Yes, this man was an artist in so many ways. But will there ever be a category here for him or others that place roadside art, I doubt it. But there should be because it is a art form by one artist. I did find 2 other, maybe 3 groups that are interested in recording the locations of these Mays Signs. If you have ever drove through Harlan county, you will figure out why Mayes used concrete. It's bullet resistant. So with Waymarking,... I'm not good at it. Telling the story of Mayes with a geocache placement and actually making an interesting visit to the site....... why do I bother fighting to have a WM published here? One of those same photos is getting quite a few views on flickr, and my only intent is to share a photo that I found interesting. Maybe I'm just sharing in the wrong group. Quote Link to comment
+dreamhummie Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) Hi to all. Behind the Airport Hahn in Germany I have found an Abandoned Air Force Site, in the past known as Hahn Air Base, but it was not a radar site so it didn't fit in that category. Airport Hahn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt–Hahn_Airport#Military_past Hahn Air Base https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hahn_Air_Base Hahn Air Base was a United States Air Force installation near Kirchberg Germany for over 40 years. The major unit was the United States Air Force's 50th Fighter Wing during most of the years it was active. Its full of old shelters with NATO signs to hide F-16's and I found bunkers and an old look out-tower. Any idea which category? Thx, John. Edited October 28, 2017 by dreamhummie Typo ;-) Quote Link to comment
+elyob Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) The wikipedia Waymarking category is a natural fit. I also have abandoned military buildings in Unoccupied Buildings, Shacks, and Cabins. Edited October 28, 2017 by elyob 1 Quote Link to comment
+dreamhummie Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Yeeaaaahhh. Thank you elyob. Unoccupied Buildings, Shacks, and Cabins that's an interessting category and it gives me a new icon in the grid ;-) 10 kudos for you, grtz John. Quote Link to comment
+dreamhummie Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 And accepted WMWY1D within a few minutes after posting with a funny reply: Quote Funny, I thought I had submitted this place myself some years ago, but probably I did it for a specific structure of the base. OK :-) Dear Torgut I looked at the Nearest Waymarks and it wasTHE McDonalds Hahn Airport - Hahn, Germany WMM5BJ Quote Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 13 hours ago, dreamhummie said: Hi to all. Behind the Airport Hahn in Germany I have found an Abandoned Air Force Site, in the past known as Hahn Air Base, but it was not a radar site so it didn't fit in that category. Airport Hahn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt–Hahn_Airport#Military_past Hahn Air Base https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hahn_Air_Base Hahn Air Base was a United States Air Force installation near Kirchberg Germany for over 40 years. The major unit was the United States Air Force's 50th Fighter Wing during most of the years it was active. Its full of old shelters with NATO signs to hide F-16's and I found bunkers and an old look out-tower. Any idea which category? Thx, John. military installations. I was stationed at Ramstein AB when Hahn closed. We were sent over to get some of the equipment for Ramstein. THat would have beem between 1990 and 1993. 1 Quote Link to comment
+dreamhummie Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 GREAT, I will post it in Military Installations too. When I was on vacation in RLP last month. I stood on top of the Bismarck tower in Landstuhl, speaking a German.He often looks with his binoculars at Airbase Ramstein and told me that there will be huge upgrades in the coming months.Lots of big hangars for more planes and even hospitals.Perhaps because of the threatening attitude in the world against the USA. Grtz & Thx John. Quote Link to comment
vulture1957 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 18 hours ago, dreamhummie said: GREAT, I will post it in Military Installations too. When I was on vacation in RLP last month. I stood on top of the Bismarck tower in Landstuhl, speaking a German.He often looks with his binoculars at Airbase Ramstein and told me that there will be huge upgrades in the coming months.Lots of big hangars for more planes and even hospitals.Perhaps because of the threatening attitude in the world against the USA. Grtz & Thx John. drink a Bischoff Hefe Weissen for me next time you are down there. Or better yet, mail me a case! :-) Quote Link to comment
+MountainWoods Posted November 1, 2017 Author Share Posted November 1, 2017 There's a lot of art-related categories that I've never tried -- mainly because I'm pretty strong left brained, though I do compose music from time to time. Is there a category into which I could submit a statue of King Kamehameha? Or does it even warrant a Waymark? [I am in agreement that not everything has to be Waymarked. ] Quote Link to comment
+Alfouine Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 If it is as statue : Monarchs of the World Quote Link to comment
+T0SHEA Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 55 minutes ago, MountainWoods said: King Kamehameha You could try: Statues of Historic Figures Quote Link to comment
+MountainWoods Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 Oh well. Turns out that someone had beat me to it, so I got a visit. Actually logged a slew of visits on Oahu. Thanks. Quote Link to comment
+pmaupin Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Hello community, first of all a little early, I wish you a happy new year for the year to come, that you find and publish full of new quality waymark as you know so well.I recently found a lighthouse that marks the separation between the North Sea and the Channel, I have already placed in the category of lighthouses, but is there a category that marks the separation between two seas? Quote Link to comment
+T0SHEA Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Maybe: River Origins, Destinations and Confluences Quote Link to comment
+elyob Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Does it belong in any benchmarking categories? Quote Link to comment
+pmaupin Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 3 hours ago, elyob said: Does it belong in any benchmarking categories? I do not think so 5 hours ago, BK-Hunters said: Maybe: River Origins, Destinations and Confluences I will try, thank you Quote Link to comment
+Chickilim Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Official Local Tourism Attractions? http://www.cote-dopale.com/tourisme/phare-de-walde Quote Link to comment
+PISA-caching Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Wikipedia Entries might also be an opportunity. See https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phare_de_Walde Quote Link to comment
+pmaupin Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 9 hours ago, PISA-caching said: Wikipedia Entries might also be an opportunity. See https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phare_de_Walde thank you very much, I have already published in "Wikipedia Entries", but I'm looking for another category that really shows this exceptional point as the border between two ocean. 12 hours ago, Chickilim said: Official Local Tourism Attractions? http://www.cote-dopale.com/tourisme/phare-de-walde Thank you very much, I tried, I wait for the answer Quote Link to comment
Bon Echo Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 What category for this memorial - aside from Citizens Memorials? I have three photos, of the memorial which you can see here: http://www.Waymarking.com/gallery/default.aspx?f=1&guid=5a6f02f1-6383-456d-bd64-c23c9383d6b6&gid=2&st=2 Maybe that would work in People-Named places but I'm not sure. Human migration monuments? Thanks Quote Link to comment
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