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5 minutes ago, MountainWoods said:

Oh boy, did I think of an answer to this.  But I'll leave it unposted....

 

Why? Can you not respect the ideas of other waymarkers? I presented my idea here in the forums first to make sure there is not a category to accept the dog waste bag containers. I'm trying to use this site as intended, so enough with your jokes. This is a Waymarking discussion.

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23 hours ago, Manville Possum said:

Neither can I, but I see them everywhere now and feel they deserve a category to waymark them. 

I can understand that you like them, I like them, too.

Seriously, not so much the boxes as such, but the plastic bags to take they have on the sides. They had an unobtrusive brown these days, today they come in orange and red (like jail suits). When my kids were little babies, these bags turned out to be the absolutely best to put full nappies in when on the way. Totally superior to any commercial product and freely available at every street corner.

Around here they have become the single most frequent item in public space over the last 25 years or so. I estimate about 1000 within ten miles around home. For prevalence reasons, I have to sadly say no to this category.

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11 minutes ago, fi67 said:

Around here they have become the single most frequent item in public space over the last 25 years or so. I estimate about 1000 within ten miles around home. For prevalence reasons, I have to sadly say no to this category.

 

They are few  in my area, but I'm rural and not urban. They make great hosts for magnetic geocaches as well.

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I also see them everywhere - in both rural and urban areas, especially those rural areas where they expect tourists. They are at every rest area and truck stop along the interstates, at all state visitor centers, anywhere there is a "pet comfort area", and in all the state parks near the picnic areas or public restrooms. I see them at hotels in big cities and in small towns. 

In cities, these "doggie baggies" dispensers are in all parks, downtown squares, at dog parks, and along walking or hike-and-bike trails - anywhere a dog might be with its owner having fun.

So I also think there may be a prevalence issue here, and also a question as to whether they are interesting. I agree with a previous poster who used them for human babies, they were LIFESAVERS in the diaper days :) 

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Which category for this? Does anyone have any information on these? They are old highway markers made of concrete and likely from the 1950's.

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I have never seen anything like that -- is this an old highway marker along a highway with its own category here? Dixie hwy, OST, or Lincoln Hwy? 

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It's on the old highway through Harlan, Kentucky. I remember seeing them in Virginia along old highway 58, and I think I have seen them in South Carolina.

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Found this while walking a cemetery not too long ago.  Doesn't seem to be a fit for the Korean Memorials, but it's a cenotaph for one lost American soldier.   Findagrave notes that he was murdered in Korea, buried on the spot, and we don't know where his remains are today.  If anything, Graves of Unusual Deaths will take it.

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23 hours ago, Manville Possum said:

Which category for this? Does anyone have any information on these? They are old highway markers made of concrete and likely from the 1950's.

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"Human Error", if it is really from the 1950s and Jesus is still not here. :-)

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30 minutes ago, PISA-caching said:

"Human Error", if it is really from the 1950s and Jesus is still not here. :-)

 

Can you help me figure out which category it can be Waymarked in?

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Ok, you want a serious answer. How about "Etched in Stone"? I don't know when and from whom that sentence was used for the first time (the bible maybe?), but it's definitely not a creation of the builder. So, "Etched in Stone" is my best guess.

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34 minutes ago, PISA-caching said:

Ok, you want a serious answer. How about "Etched in Stone"? I don't know when and from whom that sentence was used for the first time (the bible maybe?), but it's definitely not a creation of the builder. So, "Etched in Stone" is my best guess.

 

Okay, thank you. That is why I posted to this thread.

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5 hours ago, PISA-caching said:

"Human Error", if it is really from the 1950s and Jesus is still not here. :-)

You get another LOL from here!!! :lol:

Keith

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It's old and it's odd. I think it's interesting and wish I knew more about it. All I know is it's a highway marker near a right of way marker in Kentucky.

I'll try etched in stone and if that fails, I'll photoshop a space invader on it. :P

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Does anyone have an idea for a suitable category? Is it some kind of art or can it be published under the abstract public sculptures? The bicycles are in a allotment.

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19 hours ago, kaschper69 said:

Does anyone have an idea for a suitable category? Is it some kind of art or can it be published under the abstract public sculptures? The bicycles are in a allotment.

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Sculpture gardens? Lol -- 

But seriously, it's clearly an art display, so I would look in the sculpture categories. 

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3 hours ago, Manville Possum said:

Other than etched in stone, any other ideas? It was declined there, but I added some information and resubmitted it. 

Jesus is coming soon WM.

I had been given a rejection at "Etched in Stone" last time with the note "Etched in Stone is for a memorable quotes etched in stone."

I can not imagine that this text is a memorable quote.

Perhaps you could still place it under "Unusual Signs"? Because, who really believes in such a thing?

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On 10/20/2017 at 4:30 PM, Manville Possum said:

I'll try etched in stone and if that fails, I'll photoshop a space invader on it. :P

If you're gonna Photoshop it, put in an error, like a misspelling - then it would REALLY fit in "Human Error".

OR - instead, photoshop the space invader upside down and shoot for two categories...

Keith

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36 minutes ago, BK-Hunters said:

If you're gonna Photoshop it, put in an error, like a misspelling - then it would REALLY fit in "Human Error".

OR - instead, photoshop the space invader upside down and shoot for two categories...

Keith

If cheating is allowed: Claim that it was moved and post it to "Relocated structures". :-)

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8 hours ago, kaschper69 said:

Because, who really believes in such a thing?

 

Myself and others of the Christian faith. I'm sure that to nonbelievers think that this is just a silly sign, but to me it's not. It's a reminder to me that Christ is returning.

It is a quote from Revelations in the Bible. It has stood the test of time, it's old. It's concrete and formed as one solid piece. 

What is becoming of Waymarking. I believe the end is near.

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6 hours ago, PISA-caching said:

If cheating is allowed: Claim that it was moved and post it to "Relocated structures". :-)

 

Sorry, at first I did not get your joke. I did not understand there was a category called human error.

It's not cheating if I actually place a space invader on the marker is it? 

 

You know, jokes aside. I find it interesting. I took the time to Waymark it with pictures and coordinates, and I would like to list it as MY waymark. My son and I were having a nice outing that day and it is the only one item that I felt compelled to waymark, and I took several pictures that day. Now, I come here wanting to waymark 1 item that I don't know where exactly to put it, so I come here to ask. I'm only looking for 1 category to place my new WM in. Is that so difficult for the community here to help?

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Wayfrog,

I found 37 categories for signs, and none seem to be fitting for my new WM. Would you care to help me find a category for it?

 

Thank you.

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24 minutes ago, Manville Possum said:

Wayfrog,

I found 37 categories for signs, and none seem to be fitting for my new WM. Would you care to help me find a category for it?

 

Thank you.

All the categories in the Signs department are for signs that have some relation to the location of the sign, how weak ever, but all those signs say: "Here ..."

Your sign has a general message that is not refer to the actual location. I still believe, Etched in Stone is the best place (but I am not an officer). Was it rejected?

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29 minutes ago, fi67 said:

All the categories in the Signs department are for signs that have some relation to the location of the sign, how weak ever, but all those signs say: "Here ..."

Your sign has a general message that is not refer to the actual location. I still believe, Etched in Stone is the best place (but I am not an officer). Was it rejected?

 

The reviewer thought it was flat and the letters were painted on, and it needed to last 100 years. I'm guessing it's already been there for 60 years.

Also the source of the quote was cited, which is the Bible from Revelations 22:12

From reading the criteria, I believe it fits.

Another category I have been viewing is relief art. I believe it meets the criteria there as well. Most of these categories have the same officers, I was hoping for some help and not what I've encountered here. 

I only ask for very little here. 

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5 hours ago, Manville Possum said:

 

The reviewer thought it was flat and the letters were painted on, and it needed to last 100 years. I'm guessing it's already been there for 60 years

Is there any way you can show that the letters aren't flat and aren't painted on? It sounds as though that may be your best avenue of attack.

Keith

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I have 4 different photos, I'm sure cropping would help.  The quote and source were an issue as well.

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15 hours ago, Manville Possum said:

 

The reviewer thought it was flat and the letters were painted on, and it needed to last 100 years. I'm guessing it's already been there for 60 years.

Also the source of the quote was cited, which is the Bible from Revelations 22:12

From reading the criteria, I believe it fits.

Another category I have been viewing is relief art. I believe it meets the criteria there as well. Most of these categories have the same officers, I was hoping for some help and not what I've encountered here. 

I guess, that the idea of "Etched in Stone" is to list long-lasting citations. Therefore they ought to be 3dimensional. If it is just painted on the sign, the text might have been there for 60 years, but it's also possible that is had a different text earlier or will have a different text in the future. If it is not 3dimensional, it's no relief, no?

How about "Silhouette Public Art Sculptures"? At least it's a Silhouette of a heart, no?

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16 hours ago, Manville Possum said:

 

Sorry, at first I did not get your joke. I did not understand there was a category called human error.

It's not cheating if I actually place a space invader on the marker is it? 

 

You know, jokes aside. I find it interesting. I took the time to Waymark it with pictures and coordinates, and I would like to list it as MY waymark. My son and I were having a nice outing that day and it is the only one item that I felt compelled to waymark, and I took several pictures that day. Now, I come here wanting to waymark 1 item that I don't know where exactly to put it, so I come here to ask. I'm only looking for 1 category to place my new WM in. Is that so difficult for the community here to help?

No Problem. At least you got to know the "Human Error" category now.

About the cheating: I was referring to the idea to use photoshop. If you really put a space invader on it, it would be ok. But would the owner like it? :-)

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3 hours ago, PISA-caching said:

I guess, that the idea of "Etched in Stone" is to list long-lasting citations. Therefore they ought to be 3dimensional. If it is just painted on the sign, the text might have been there for 60 years, but it's also possible that is had a different text earlier or will have a different text in the future. If it is not 3dimensional, it's no relief, no?

How about "Silhouette Public Art Sculptures"? At least it's a Silhouette of a heart, no?

I think Silhouette Art could be a better fit than Wayside Shrines, the only other category I could think of for these objects.  

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6 hours ago, PISA-caching said:

About the cheating: I was referring to the idea to use photoshop. If you really put a space invader on it, it would be ok. But would the owner like it? :-)

 

I would not deface public or private property, and it's way I was against the space invader category for promoting it. Maybe in slums and ghettos they are considered art.

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6 hours ago, PISA-caching said:

I guess, that the idea of "Etched in Stone" is to list long-lasting citations. Therefore they ought to be 3dimensional. If it is just painted on the sign, the text might have been there for 60 years, but it's also possible that is had a different text earlier or will have a different text in the future. If it is not 3dimensional, it's no relief, no?

How about "Silhouette Public Art Sculptures"? At least it's a Silhouette of a heart, no?

 

It is a relief, the letters are about 3/4 inch deep and painted black. 

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6 minutes ago, Manville Possum said:

 

It is a relief, the letters are about 3/4 inch deep and painted black. 

Well, to me a "Relief Art Sculpture" needs more than engraved letters. Most headstones (here in Austria) have letters engraved in stone, but that isn't what I would call "Art". On the other hand, I assume that the heart is rather flat, so it's definitely a silhouette and (to me) closer to the term "Art" than engraved letters. You might as well post them in both categories and see what happens.

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5 minutes ago, PISA-caching said:

Well, to me a "Relief Art Sculpture" needs more than engraved letters. Most headstones (here in Austria) have letters engraved in stone, but that isn't what I would call "Art". On the other hand, I assume that the heart is rather flat, so it's definitely a silhouette and (to me) closer to the term "Art" than engraved letters. You might as well post them in both categories and see what happens.

 

I agree, but what I have encountered is that several of these categories have the same officer, so whatever category I submit it to, they will find an excuse to reject it.

IF we had a site admin here, maybe they could help?

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Yes, I also had waymarks being rejected and I didn't (and sometimes still don't) understand why. Whenever it comes to terms like "art", "old", "interesting" etc. you depend on the good will of an officer. I think the site admins also had to read through the long description of the possible categories and they can also only presume what the officers will decide. Best chance is to contact the leaders and ask for their opinion, if you don't want to waste too much time creating waymarks that get rejected.

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7 minutes ago, PISA-caching said:

Yes, I also had waymarks being rejected and I didn't (and sometimes still don't) understand why. Whenever it comes to terms like "art", "old", "interesting" etc. you depend on the good will of an officer. I think the site admins also had to read through the long description of the possible categories and they can also only presume what the officers will decide. Best chance is to contact the leaders and ask for their opinion, if you don't want to waste too much time creating waymarks that get rejected.

 

Or just quit Waymarking and having to deal with this group that hijacked it. I believe it's their intent to run off members here. 

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4 minutes ago, Manville Possum said:

Or just quit Waymarking and having to deal with this group that hijacked it. I believe it's their intent to run off members here. 

Don't be so negative. I think they all try to keep their categories "clean" within the borders that they defined in the category description. Sometimes these borders aren't very clear, but I don't believe that anybody has the intent to run off members. Why would someone do that? I'm an officer in just two categories and I always find it hard to reject waymarks, especially if it's a general problem and nothing that can be fixed easyly. After all we are all only humans and we all have our own opinion about what is art, what is old, what is interesting etc. And I personally always try to understand their arguments like I hope they try to understand mine.

Soooo, give it a try, mail the leader of silhouette art sculptures and see what he has to say.

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9 minutes ago, PISA-caching said:

Don't be so negative. I think they all try to keep their categories "clean" within the borders that they defined in the category description. Sometimes these borders aren't very clear, but I don't believe that anybody has the intent to run off members. Why would someone do that? I'm an officer in just two categories and I always find it hard to reject waymarks, especially if it's a general problem and nothing that can be fixed easyly. After all we are all only humans and we all have our own opinion about what is art, what is old, what is interesting etc. And I personally always try to understand their arguments like I hope they try to understand mine.

Soooo, give it a try, mail the leader of silhouette art sculptures and see what he has to say.

 

Some of those categories have inactive leaders, so I can't contact them and ask. I have got negative responses and nothing helpful. I was told my WM would not fit any know category, so I went to another and found the same officer there, so why bother?

As many things that are Waymarked, have I found an object that can't? I don't think so. 

Waymarking has Devilish locations and 666 sightings as categories. Maybe Jesus is just not welcome here?

 

Thank you for your help. 

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25 minutes ago, PISA-caching said:

Soooo, give it a try, mail the leader of silhouette art sculptures and see what he has to say.

 

That is the same person that told me that it can't be Waymarked in ANY category, so what now?

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The artist that made these and placed them in at least 40 States rode around on this bike and was into Planetary Aviation Evangelism. Space Invaders?:)

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10 minutes ago, elyob said:

Mayes and his signs certainly are famous.  If you get lucky, there may be a reference to your sign in a local newspaper for the News Article Location waymark category.

 

I can't find anything locally, but even found a nice youtube video and there is a museum about 2 hours away in Clinton, Tennessee that has a display of his artifacts.

 

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It was accepted in the silhouette art sculptures category. 

Thanks for helping. After 10 years of using this site I'm still not any good at it. I try to keep it simple and found this marker interesting. I was discouraged here, but when I found out what it actually is and who the artist was and that there are others interested in these outside of Waymarking.

I believe I can locate more examples of the Harrison Mayes Roadside Art signs.

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3 hours ago, Manville Possum said:

It was accepted in the silhouette art sculptures category. 

Thanks for helping. After 10 years of using this site I'm still not any good at it. I try to keep it simple and found this marker interesting. I was discouraged here, but when I found out what it actually is and who the artist was and that there are others interested in these outside of Waymarking.

I believe I can locate more examples of the Harrison Mayes Roadside Art signs.

Imagine that!!! It turns out that a sufficient amount of research can get a Waymark approved. Kudos for your perseverance.

Heck Fire - now you even have the makins' of another obscure category. ;)

Keith

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6 hours ago, Manville Possum said:

It was accepted in the silhouette art sculptures category. 

Thanks for helping. After 10 years of using this site I'm still not any good at it. I try to keep it simple and found this marker interesting. I was discouraged here, but when I found out what it actually is and who the artist was and that there are others interested in these outside of Waymarking.

I believe I can locate more examples of the Harrison Mayes Roadside Art signs.

Congratulations. I'm not religious at all and I never heard of the artist, but sometimes I'm dour, especially if someone says "not possible". As far as the officer saying "can't be waymarked in any category", I think that they don't have the time to consider ALL the categories. They have so many waymarks to approve, answer questions etc. So, a second opinion here in the forums is always a good idea.

Compared to me you're lucky, because you seem to not care which category your waymark is in. I had a few waymarks that I thought (and still think) fit perfectly in a specific category and they were rejected for different reasons. I had to post them to other categories and although they were accepted there I still think that they are a loss for the category that I chose initially.

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19 hours ago, Manville Possum said:

Those are public art placed by  Henry Harrison "Harrison" Mayes. I was correct about the old part. 

I believe these can be Waymarked now with more research.

that's great news. I hope it gets accepted. I, for one, am sorry "we" couldn't be of any more help. I know I went thru the entire listing of waymarks a couple of times, trying to see if I thought it might fit somewhere, and came up empty. Now, reading the additional comments, one problem was that I couldn't see exactly how that was made. It looked (and still does, for me) like it was a metal sign with the lettering painted on. I see I was incorrect (not the first time, not the last). But as I said, good to hear that you may have found a good home for it. I agree that if I had seen it, I would have photo'd it and been looking for a category, too.

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