What Is GeoArt?

January 27, 2015

I have seen a few mentions of this so called "geo art" and was wondering what exactly that meant.

2.7k · January 27, 2015

When the cache symbols on the map make a picture, letter or design of some sort, it is known as geoart. Alienhead along the ET Highway is one example in Nevada. Or look at the southwestern end of Joe Pool Lake for something a little closer to home. (Gig 'em)

7.4k · January 27, 2015

You can see some examples here: http://www.pinterest.com/gogeocaching/geo-art/

January 27, 2015

I have seen a few mentions of this so called "geo art" and was wondering what exactly that meant.

Check out http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=326766&st=0&p=5437461&fromsearch=1entry5437461 for the useful explanation I got when I asked the same question!

7.3k · January 27, 2015

I have seen a few mentions of this so called "geo art" and was wondering what exactly that meant.

http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=328801&st=0&p=5459889

B.

14k · January 27, 2015

When the cache symbols on the map make a picture, letter or design of some sort, it is known as geoart. Alienhead along the ET Highway is one example in Nevada. Or look at the southwestern end of Joe Pool Lake for something a little closer to home. (Gig 'em)

The Alienhead geoart is somewhat controversial. If you look at the cache listing for Alien Head #1, you'll find the following text:

"Please don't drive to these caches. The extraterrestrial visitors might take this as a threat. We think it will be safe if we tread lightly and walk to the landing sites."

However, from reading the logs it's obvious a lot of people have driven from cache to cache any way, In fact, so many of driven the trail that there is now a double track clearly visible in google satellite view, that didn't exist before the caches were placed.

2.7k · January 27, 2015

Cache finders leaving a trace? Aliens will be angry about that.....(and landowners/managers). Geocachers should be mindful about the Leave No Trace principles we are asked to follow.

7.8k · January 27, 2015

Cache finders leaving a trace? Aliens will be angry about that.....(and landowners/managers). Geocachers should be mindful about the Leave No Trace principles we are asked to follow.

Unfortunately, for some people The Almighty Numbers™ override any common sense or responsible feelings. Principles go out the window when you're trying to pack in a thousand finds in a day and don't have the time to walk. <_<

7.4k · January 28, 2015

It's a way to make an otherwise bland, repetitive series of leaky film canisters seem slightly more interesting.

2.8k · January 28, 2015

Cache finders leaving a trace? Aliens will be angry about that.....(and landowners/managers). Geocachers should be mindful about the Leave No Trace principles we are asked to follow.

Just by breathing we leave a trace, if you want to leave no trace you don't have many options.

7.8k · January 28, 2015

Cache finders leaving a trace? Aliens will be angry about that.....(and landowners/managers). Geocachers should be mindful about the Leave No Trace principles we are asked to follow.

Just by breathing we leave a trace, if you want to leave no trace you don't have many options.

Leave No Trace

Plan Ahead and Prepare
Travel and Camp on Durable Surfaces
Dispose of Waste Properly
Leave What You Find
Minimize Campfire Impacts
Respect Wildlife
Be Considerate of Other Visitors

Based on the definitions in the Wiki article, driving through the desert would violate #1, #2, #6, and possibly #4 and #7.

14k · January 28, 2015

It's a way to make an otherwise bland, repetitive series of leaky film canisters seem slightly more interesting.

Plus, if you make the series out of puzzle caches you force everyone that lives within local PQ range of the geoart to solve each puzzle or spend time bringing up every cache in the series just so that it can be ignored. Frankly, the only thing "interested" might be seeing a pattern on the map, because when you're actually on the ground, it's basically just a series of caches.

7.4k · January 28, 2015

It's a way to make an otherwise bland, repetitive series of leaky film canisters seem slightly more interesting.

Plus, if you make the series out of puzzle caches you force everyone that lives within local PQ range of the geoart to solve each puzzle or spend time bringing up every cache in the series just so that it can be ignored. Frankly, the only thing "interested" might be seeing a pattern on the map, because when you're actually on the ground, it's basically just a series of caches.

In terms of personal caching ethic, I lean toward "solve it yourself or at least contribute to solving it," but there comes a point...

2.8k · January 28, 2015

It's a way to make an otherwise bland, repetitive series of leaky film canisters seem slightly more interesting.

Plus, if you make the series out of puzzle caches you force everyone that lives within local PQ range of the geoart to solve each puzzle or spend time bringing up every cache in the series just so that it can be ignored. Frankly, the only thing "interested" might be seeing a pattern on the map, because when you're actually on the ground, it's basically just a series of caches.

Your last cache you found was a meatball container in an IKEA parking lot, exciting.

The one before was a nano on a railing.

14k · January 28, 2015

It's a way to make an otherwise bland, repetitive series of leaky film canisters seem slightly more interesting.

Plus, if you make the series out of puzzle caches you force everyone that lives within local PQ range of the geoart to solve each puzzle or spend time bringing up every cache in the series just so that it can be ignored. Frankly, the only thing "interested" might be seeing a pattern on the map, because when you're actually on the ground, it's basically just a series of caches.

Your last cache you found was a meatball container in an IKEA parking lot, exciting.

Stalker.

It was also only 250 feet from the hotel room I was in, but was 240 miles from home. I didn't both walking to the other side of the parking lot, where there was a nano on a sign.

The one before was a nano on a railing.

It also happened to be on a fence railing in Ethiopia. I would have liked to done some geocaching in the few days before I found that one but there wasn't a cache to be found within 250 miles. Personally, I *do* find traveling to Ethiopia, even if I only find 1 cache, more exciting than finding 50 leaky film pots in the Nevada desert.

BTW, here's photo that I took and just uploaded from the cache location of the one I found before the one in Ethiopia. In case you don't recognize it, that's the tallest building in the world, located in Dubai, UAE.

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January 28, 2015

It's a way to make an otherwise bland, repetitive series of leaky film canisters seem slightly more interesting.

Plus, if you make the series out of puzzle caches you force everyone that lives within local PQ range of the geoart to solve each puzzle or spend time bringing up every cache in the series just so that it can be ignored. Frankly, the only thing "interested" might be seeing a pattern on the map, because when you're actually on the ground, it's basically just a series of caches.

Your last cache you found was a meatball container in an IKEA parking lot, exciting.

The one before was a nano on a railing.

What's a meatball container? Also, shots fired

14k · January 28, 2015

It's a way to make an otherwise bland, repetitive series of leaky film canisters seem slightly more interesting.

Plus, if you make the series out of puzzle caches you force everyone that lives within local PQ range of the geoart to solve each puzzle or spend time bringing up every cache in the series just so that it can be ignored. Frankly, the only thing "interested" might be seeing a pattern on the map, because when you're actually on the ground, it's basically just a series of caches.

Your last cache you found was a meatball container in an IKEA parking lot, exciting.

The one before was a nano on a railing.

What's a meatball container? Also, shots fired

It was some sort of plastic container. I don't know what it held previously, but it was full of swag, had a few trackables in it and a dry log book.

7.4k · January 28, 2015

It also happened to be on a fence railing in Ethiopia.

Well that was unexpected. :laughing:

2.8k · January 28, 2015

It's a way to make an otherwise bland, repetitive series of leaky film canisters seem slightly more interesting.

Plus, if you make the series out of puzzle caches you force everyone that lives within local PQ range of the geoart to solve each puzzle or spend time bringing up every cache in the series just so that it can be ignored. Frankly, the only thing "interested" might be seeing a pattern on the map, because when you're actually on the ground, it's basically just a series of caches.

Your last cache you found was a meatball container in an IKEA parking lot, exciting.

Stalker.

It was also only 250 feet from the hotel room I was in, but was 240 miles from home. I didn't both walking to the other side of the parking lot, where there was a nano on a sign.

The one before was a nano on a railing.

It also happened to be on a fence railing in Ethiopia. I would have liked to done some geocaching in the few days before I found that one but there wasn't a cache to be found within 250 miles. Personally, I *do* find traveling to Ethiopia, even if I only find 1 cache, more exciting than finding 50 leaky film pots in the Nevada desert.

BTW, here's photo that I took and just uploaded from the cache location of the one I found before the one in Ethiopia. In case you don't recognize it, that's the tallest building in the world, located in Dubai, UAE.

Still an ikea parking lot and still a nano on a railing.

I have walked away from or not visited at all many traditionals both near home and far away due to them being in unpleasant and often stinky areas, not one of them was part of a geoart.

I'd bet that most geoart hides are if better quality than the caches I have refused to find or the last 2 caches you found.

7.4k · January 28, 2015

Still an ikea parking lot and still a nano on a railing.

I have walked away from or not visited at all many traditionals both near home and far away due to them being in unpleasant and often stinky areas, not one of them was part of a geoart.

I'd bet that most geoart hides are if better quality than the caches I have refused to find or the last 2 caches you found.

I can't imagine being so fussy that I'd turn my nose up at a find in a faraway country because the only available option was a boring hide.

2.8k · January 28, 2015

Still an ikea parking lot and still a nano on a railing.

I have walked away from or not visited at all many traditionals both near home and far away due to them being in unpleasant and often stinky areas, not one of them was part of a geoart.

I'd bet that most geoart hides are if better quality than the caches I have refused to find or the last 2 caches you found.

I can't imagine being so fussy that I'd turn my nose up at a find in a faraway country because the only available option was a boring hide.

And after having done the jet and part of the train in idaho as well as some other geoarts I can't imagine being so fussy about what kind of container was used to miss out on the fun I had.

22.1k · January 28, 2015

The topic of this thread is GeoArt. Definitions of GeoArt, examples of GeoArt, experiences creating and finding GeoArt. I am looking forward to reading more posts about that. And only that.

7.4k · January 28, 2015

Still an ikea parking lot and still a nano on a railing.

I have walked away from or not visited at all many traditionals both near home and far away due to them being in unpleasant and often stinky areas, not one of them was part of a geoart.

I'd bet that most geoart hides are if better quality than the caches I have refused to find or the last 2 caches you found.

I can't imagine being so fussy that I'd turn my nose up at a find in a faraway country because the only available option was a boring hide.

And after having done the jet and part of the train in idaho as well as some other geoarts I can't imagine being so fussy about what kind of container was used to miss out on the fun I had.

The "art" on the map can be kind of cute, but I don't see a lot of "fun" in solving eighty-five variations of the same puzzle and then finding eight-five variations of the same cache.

Finding one lame cache in a cool spot is one thing - finding multitudes of them in a row, bleh.

5.7k · January 28, 2015

To me, most geoart is just a power trail of ? caches placed every 528ft along a highway or hiking trail. It's a all about the numbers thing, and not something that I find of interest. :anibad:

I like geotrails that offer unique hides.

2.8k · January 28, 2015

I have done my fair share of geoart ranging from simple images like a heart or the geocaching logo consisting of 20, 30 or so caches to some pretty impressive ones like the train in Idaho which is made up of 1000 caches.

Some art is at posted coordinates made up of mainly traditional or letterboxes, some you can drive to like the Jet in Idaho some you shouldn't like the alien head.

Some geoart is offset using simple puzzles and the caches may be along a drivable road or along a hiking trail. Some like in Seattle the art will be in the water and the actually caches scattered in and around the city.

The containers can be simple containers just like most caches are or very impressively themed containers like some of the best caches are..

Geoart is as varied as other hides.

Geoart is not a bland, repetitive series of leaky film canisters as some would have you believe, in fact of all the geoart caches I have found I do not recall a single one being a film canister and I do not recall any soggy logbooks.

The most important thing to me is I've enjoyed every single geoart series I have done.

Edited January 28, 2015 by Roman!

6.1k · January 28, 2015

Hail the beast! :rolleyes:

Edited January 28, 2015 by 4wheelin_fool

14k · January 28, 2015

Still an ikea parking lot and still a nano on a railing.

I have walked away from or not visited at all many traditionals both near home and far away due to them being in unpleasant and often stinky areas, not one of them was part of a geoart.

I'd bet that most geoart hides are if better quality than the caches I have refused to find or the last 2 caches you found.

I can't imagine being so fussy that I'd turn my nose up at a find in a faraway country because the only available option was a boring hide.

And after having done the jet and part of the train in idaho as well as some other geoarts I can't imagine being so fussy about what kind of container was used to miss out on the fun I had.

The "art" on the map can be kind of cute, but I don't see a lot of "fun" in solving eighty-five variations of the same puzzle and then finding eight-five variations of the same cache.

Finding one lame cache in a cool spot is one thing - finding multitudes of them in a row, bleh.

We don't agree often, but I certainly agree with this (must of started with the congenial discussions about hockey in the other thread that was closed).

Rather than stalking my profile again, I'd really be interested to have Roman explain how finding 50 or more caches that have published coordinates such that it produces a picture on the map is any different than finding 50 or more caches placed at the minimally required distance, but not in a pattern.

To the moderator: the question I am asking is specifically about "finding geoart caches".

January 28, 2015

I did the North Carolina State Star last year. They've archived one of the caches and replaced it with a puzzle (that particular star had you hike the whole thing!), so now instead of a star of smilies on the map, I have a star with one question mark in it.

2.8k · January 28, 2015

Still an ikea parking lot and still a nano on a railing.

I have walked away from or not visited at all many traditionals both near home and far away due to them being in unpleasant and often stinky areas, not one of them was part of a geoart.

I'd bet that most geoart hides are if better quality than the caches I have refused to find or the last 2 caches you found.

I can't imagine being so fussy that I'd turn my nose up at a find in a faraway country because the only available option was a boring hide.

And after having done the jet and part of the train in idaho as well as some other geoarts I can't imagine being so fussy about what kind of container was used to miss out on the fun I had.

The "art" on the map can be kind of cute, but I don't see a lot of "fun" in solving eighty-five variations of the same puzzle and then finding eight-five variations of the same cache.

Finding one lame cache in a cool spot is one thing - finding multitudes of them in a row, bleh.

We don't agree often, but I certainly agree with this (must of started with the congenial discussions about hockey in the other thread that was closed).

Rather than stalking my profile again, I'd really be interested to have Roman explain how finding 50 or more caches that have published coordinates such that it produces a picture on the map is any different than finding 50 or more caches placed at the minimally required distance, but not in a pattern.

To the moderator: the question I am asking is specifically about "finding geoart caches".

geoart that is a published locations will most likely be off road, when we did the jet it took about 6 hours off off roading in the desert to find the 200 caches at it was a lot of fun. When we did part of the train we hiked for about 4 hours picking up about 100 caches, great hike seeing lots of cool flora and fauna.

50+ caches not in a pattern will generally be along a trail that you bike or hike or along a road you drive, I have done both many times and also enjoyed them.

Power trails are generally hundreds to thousands of caches along a road made up of film pots, geoart on the other hand has varied hides, varied containers and varied ways of finding them and getting to them, branding geoart as as lame soggy film pots is so far off the mark and unfair to the OP.

As for lame caches, I would not put a single cache that was a part of a geoart on my list and my list is rather long.

Edited January 28, 2015 by Roman!

7.4k · January 28, 2015

geoart that is a published locations will most likely be off road, when we did the jet it took about 6 hours off off roading in the desert to find the 200 caches at it was a lot of fun. When we did part of the train we hiked for about 4 hours picking up about 100 caches, great hike seeing lots of cool flora and fauna.

50+ caches not in a pattern will generally be along a trail that you bike or hike or along a road you drive, I have done both many times and also enjoyed them.

Power trails are generally hundreds to thousands of caches along a road made up of film pots, geoart on the other hand has varied hides, varied containers and varied ways of finding them and getting to them, branding geoart as as lame soggy film pots is so far off the mark and unfair to the OP.

As for lame caches, I would not put a single cache that was a part of a geoart on my list and my list is rather long.

All sounds like variations on power trails to me. I don't do that. Repetition isn't my jam.

January 28, 2015

Guess I'm in the minority because I think it sounds fun. It's just another challenge to yourself like any other challenge.

Complete the picture.

Get a cache a day for a year.

Get a cache in every county.

Get a cache naked every time.

Just another personal challenge and tiny sense of accomplishment.

January 28, 2015

I have GeoArt near me. It's in the shape of a baseball!

2.8k · January 29, 2015

geoart that is a published locations will most likely be off road, when we did the jet it took about 6 hours off off roading in the desert to find the 200 caches at it was a lot of fun. When we did part of the train we hiked for about 4 hours picking up about 100 caches, great hike seeing lots of cool flora and fauna.

50+ caches not in a pattern will generally be along a trail that you bike or hike or along a road you drive, I have done both many times and also enjoyed them.

Power trails are generally hundreds to thousands of caches along a road made up of film pots, geoart on the other hand has varied hides, varied containers and varied ways of finding them and getting to them, branding geoart as as lame soggy film pots is so far off the mark and unfair to the OP.

As for lame caches, I would not put a single cache that was a part of a geoart on my list and my list is rather long.

All sounds like variations on power trails to me. I don't do that. Repetition isn't my jam.

either offroading or hiking in the desert is anything but repetitive.

2.8k · January 29, 2015

Guess I'm in the minority because I think it sounds fun. It's just another challenge to yourself like any other challenge.

Complete the picture.

Get a cache a day for a year.

Get a cache in every county.

Get a cache naked every time.

Just another personal challenge and tiny sense of accomplishment.

It is and regardless of what the forum consensus may be there are many people that enjoy geoart and power trails.

7.4k · January 29, 2015

geoart that is a published locations will most likely be off road, when we did the jet it took about 6 hours off off roading in the desert to find the 200 caches at it was a lot of fun. When we did part of the train we hiked for about 4 hours picking up about 100 caches, great hike seeing lots of cool flora and fauna.

50+ caches not in a pattern will generally be along a trail that you bike or hike or along a road you drive, I have done both many times and also enjoyed them.

Power trails are generally hundreds to thousands of caches along a road made up of film pots, geoart on the other hand has varied hides, varied containers and varied ways of finding them and getting to them, branding geoart as as lame soggy film pots is so far off the mark and unfair to the OP.

As for lame caches, I would not put a single cache that was a part of a geoart on my list and my list is rather long.

All sounds like variations on power trails to me. I don't do that. Repetition isn't my jam.

either offroading or hiking in the desert is anything but repetitive.

I had the chance to go caching in Arizona a few years ago. Caching in the desert was awesome and I found Arizona's oldest cache. I think there was some power trail type silliness nearby, so we opted for the trail that had several old caches hidden by different people over the years. Finding a bunch of identical caches that someone has squirted out in a line or a silly shape just isn't something I'm interested in. I'll always go for the long multi or the really old cache instead.

14k · January 29, 2015

Guess I'm in the minority because I think it sounds fun. It's just another challenge to yourself like any other challenge.

Complete the picture.

Get a cache a day for a year.

Get a cache in every county.

Get a cache naked every time.

Just another personal challenge and tiny sense of accomplishment.

It is and regardless of what the forum consensus may be there are many people that enjoy geoart and power trails.

I'm not totally convinced that people enjoy geoart and power trails as much as they enjoy having a high find count.

2.8k · January 29, 2015

Guess I'm in the minority because I think it sounds fun. It's just another challenge to yourself like any other challenge.

Complete the picture.

Get a cache a day for a year.

Get a cache in every county.

Get a cache naked every time.

Just another personal challenge and tiny sense of accomplishment.

It is and regardless of what the forum consensus may be there are many people that enjoy geoart and power trails.

I'm not totally convinced that people enjoy geoart and power trails as much as they enjoy having a high find count.

I did Route 66 with my kids and found 800 caches but took well over 1000 pictures.

Why can't someone have fun and enjoy the high find count? Good thing I don't have to convince you, just myself or I would have missed out on a heck of a lot of good memories.

7.4k · January 29, 2015

Guess I'm in the minority because I think it sounds fun. It's just another challenge to yourself like any other challenge.

Complete the picture.

Get a cache a day for a year.

Get a cache in every county.

Get a cache naked every time.

Just another personal challenge and tiny sense of accomplishment.

It is and regardless of what the forum consensus may be there are many people that enjoy geoart and power trails.

I'm not totally convinced that people enjoy geoart and power trails as much as they enjoy having a high find count.

I did Route 66 with my kids and found 800 caches but took well over 1000 pictures.

Why can't someone have fun and enjoy the high find count? Good thing I don't have to convince you, just myself or I would have missed out on a heck of a lot of good memories.

Would it have been *less* fun to cache in the same area, finding 100 caches of different sizes and types, placed by different people?

2.6k · January 30, 2015

Not sure about Roman, but when we did it we did it on 2 different trips to Laughlin, and had a ball both times

Route 66 is a more enjoyable drive then Interstate 40

2.8k · January 30, 2015

Guess I'm in the minority because I think it sounds fun. It's just another challenge to yourself like any other challenge.

Complete the picture.

Get a cache a day for a year.

Get a cache in every county.

Get a cache naked every time.

Just another personal challenge and tiny sense of accomplishment.

It is and regardless of what the forum consensus may be there are many people that enjoy geoart and power trails.

I'm not totally convinced that people enjoy geoart and power trails as much as they enjoy having a high find count.

I did Route 66 with my kids and found 800 caches but took well over 1000 pictures.

Why can't someone have fun and enjoy the high find count? Good thing I don't have to convince you, just myself or I would have missed out on a heck of a lot of good memories.

Would it have been *less* fun to cache in the same area, finding 100 caches of different sizes and types, placed by different people?

It would have been different and for 100 caches I never would have come anyways.

Hate to break it to you but I enjoy geoart and power trails for many reasons, and yes, numbers is one of the reasons but far from the only one, and there are a lot more people that do as well. If you don't, great, no one is forcing you to do them.

Edited January 30, 2015 by Roman!

January 30, 2015

It would be a while before I could do some geo art or a power Trail because my parents do not like geocaching that much, do when i do go, it's only about one or two caches I can get

7.4k · January 30, 2015

It would have been different and for 100 caches I never would have come anyways.

So, for the same drive, in the same place, for the amount of time, with the same people, taking the same pictures, you wouldn't have gone for 100 caches? How good can the place really be if 100 caches isn't enough to entice you to go?

2.8k · January 30, 2015

It would have been different and for 100 caches I never would have come anyways.

So, for the same drive, in the same place, for the amount of time, with the same people, taking the same pictures, you wouldn't have gone for 100 caches? How good can the place really be if 100 caches isn't enough to entice you to go?

It's the entire experience that makes it what it is, not sure why you are trying to convince me I'm not having fun.

7.4k · January 30, 2015

It would have been different and for 100 caches I never would have come anyways.

So, for the same drive, in the same place, for the amount of time, with the same people, taking the same pictures, you wouldn't have gone for 100 caches? How good can the place really be if 100 caches isn't enough to entice you to go?

It's the entire experience that makes it what it is, not sure why you are trying to convince me I'm not having fun.

I'm trying to unravel what it is that makes them more fun because they're in a shape on the map.

1.2k · January 30, 2015

Locally we have a rails-to-trails that over the past 10 years has morphed into somewhat of a power trail, although there are all types of containers involved. If you look closely it is also a geoart in the shape of several hiking sticks laying end to end. <_<

Edited January 30, 2015 by cheech gang

14k · January 30, 2015

It would have been different and for 100 caches I never would have come anyways.

So, for the same drive, in the same place, for the amount of time, with the same people, taking the same pictures, you wouldn't have gone for 100 caches? How good can the place really be if 100 caches isn't enough to entice you to go?

It's the entire experience that makes it what it is, not sure why you are trying to convince me I'm not having fun.

I have no doubt that you're having fun and a long weekend or more with your kids is certainly a valid reason (and could be a lot of fun) to go find some caches, but in general, I still think that most cachers that do power trails and large geoart are mostly doing it for the numbers. The ole "we like the camaraderie" argument doesn't fly with me either. If you're doing it for the camaraderie that it seems to me that you'd have a lot more time to socialize with friends if you found 50 caches in a day then 500 hundred and were jumping out every 45 seconds to run over to a pile of rocks and swapping containers.

2.8k · January 30, 2015

It would have been different and for 100 caches I never would have come anyways.

So, for the same drive, in the same place, for the amount of time, with the same people, taking the same pictures, you wouldn't have gone for 100 caches? How good can the place really be if 100 caches isn't enough to entice you to go?

It's the entire experience that makes it what it is, not sure why you are trying to convince me I'm not having fun.

I have no doubt that you're having fun and a long weekend or more with your kids is certainly a valid reason (and could be a lot of fun) to go find some caches, but in general, I still think that most cachers that do power trails and large geoart are mostly doing it for the numbers. The ole "we like the camaraderie" argument doesn't fly with me either. If you're doing it for the camaraderie that it seems to me that you'd have a lot more time to socialize with friends if you found 50 caches in a day then 500 hundred and were jumping out every 45 seconds to run over to a pile of rocks and swapping containers.

Why does it have to be just one reason? I enjoy the numbers as I'm sure others do too but it is not the only reason and far from the most important reason, it is a combination of reasons I enjoy them.

7.4k · January 30, 2015

It would have been different and for 100 caches I never would have come anyways.

So, for the same drive, in the same place, for the amount of time, with the same people, taking the same pictures, you wouldn't have gone for 100 caches? How good can the place really be if 100 caches isn't enough to entice you to go?

It's the entire experience that makes it what it is, not sure why you are trying to convince me I'm not having fun.

I have no doubt that you're having fun and a long weekend or more with your kids is certainly a valid reason (and could be a lot of fun) to go find some caches, but in general, I still think that most cachers that do power trails and large geoart are mostly doing it for the numbers. The ole "we like the camaraderie" argument doesn't fly with me either. If you're doing it for the camaraderie that it seems to me that you'd have a lot more time to socialize with friends if you found 50 caches in a day then 500 hundred and were jumping out every 45 seconds to run over to a pile of rocks and swapping containers.

Yeah, I don't think that I'd be getting much in the way of "quality time with my kids" if I was busy flinging a film canister out the window of my car every 1/10th of a mile. I guess I'd have to leave the photography to one of the kids - might help delay the cries of hunger and bathroom requests, anyway.

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If I was Roman I wouldn't drive from British Columbia to So Cal for 100 caches either, I would if there were maybe other reasons to be in the area

like work or maybe using vacation time.

We go out to the desert 2 or 3 times a year to cache, at my age it's more enjoyable and easier on my knees then doing parking lot caches.

Next week we plan on doing about 300 of the 29 palms to Earp cache run, I need almost 300 to hit 7000 and want to do it before my 14 anniversary yeah it's a cache run and will spend 2 days doing it.

The idea of the game is to enjoy yourself and have fun, of course there are cachers out there that think if your not doing it their way it isn't the right way to cache

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