+HackAMen Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 The previous Chirp related post got me thinking. If I create a cache where the user needs to access a Chirp to get the final co-ords deemed legal, are reviewers going to take issue with one if they have not seen it before? I thought there was a guidance where external or third party tools / software is not allowed. Thanks Wil Quote Link to comment
+T.D.M.22 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) The previous Chirp related post got me thinking. If I create a cache where the user needs to access a Chirp to get the final co-ords deemed legal, are reviewers going to take issue with one if they have not seen it before? I thought there was a guidance where external or third party tools / software is not allowed. Thanks Wil Well since there is an attribute for beacons the answer is yes. I think the only issue is mentioning chirp I certain ways would be deemed commercial since it's usable on Garmin units. But the use of the chirp is allowed. Edited December 8, 2014 by T.D.M.22 Quote Link to comment
+niraD Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 The Help Center has more information about Beacon Geocaches. Quote Link to comment
+HackAMen Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share Posted December 8, 2014 Well since there is an attribute for beacons the answer is yes. I think the only issue iss tio ing chirp I certain ways would be deemed commercial since it's usable on Garmin units. But the use of the chirp is allowed. Spot on, thanks. Quote Link to comment
+HackAMen Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share Posted December 8, 2014 The Help Center has more information about Beacon Geocaches. Sooooo, if I create a beacon where the player needs to use the information from the Chirp to work out the GZ, is that a mystery or a puzzle cache? Quote Link to comment
+Uncle Alaska Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 The Help Center has more information about Beacon Geocaches. Sooooo, if I create a beacon where the player needs to use the information from the Chirp to work out the GZ, is that a mystery or a puzzle cache? Mystery/Puzzle/Challenge caches all use the "?" so it doesn't matter what you call it...If the Chirp is required to solve/locate a cache (with no alternative method to solve) then you must use the "?" cache type. Quote Link to comment
Pup Patrol Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) Sooooo, if I create a beacon where the player needs to use the information from the Chirp to work out the GZ, is that a mystery or a puzzle cache? "Mystery" and "Puzzle" are the same thing. You might want to peruse the Guidelines and the Help Center articles a few times. Help Center → Hiding a Geocache → Review Process: Hiding a Geocache 1.18. Mystery/Puzzle http://support.Groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=277 Guidelines http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx#mystery B. Edited December 8, 2014 by Pup Patrol Quote Link to comment
+StefandD Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I think the only issue is mentioning chirp I certain ways would be deemed commercial since it's usable on Garmin units. My Samsung Galaxy S5 is capable of receiving Chirp and I know there are other Android smartphones which also support Ant+. So it's not a Garmin-only thing anymore. Quote Link to comment
+St.Matthew Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I think the only issue is mentioning chirp I certain ways would be deemed commercial since it's usable on Garmin units. My Samsung Galaxy S5 is capable of receiving Chirp and I know there are other Android smartphones which also support Ant+. So it's not a Garmin-only thing anymore. My Galaxy S4 supports Ant+ I think. I haven't the slightest idea how I would use the technology to "read" a chirp beacon. Will you enlighten this curious cacher? Quote Link to comment
+StefandD Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 According to this website, the S4 does support Ant+. If your phone supports Ant+, you need these drivers. On my S5 they were pre-installed: Ant Radio Service ANT+ Plugin Service These drivers run only when needed, so there's no extra battery drain or so. The app needed for reading chirp is ANT+ Plugin Sampler. Quote Link to comment
+St.Matthew Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) According to this website, the S4 does support Ant+. If your phone supports Ant+, you need these drivers. On my S5 they were pre-installed: Ant Radio Service ANT+ Plugin Service These drivers run only when needed, so there's no extra battery drain or so. The app needed for reading chirp is ANT+ Plugin Sampler. Thanks! The first 2 apps you mentioned were preintalled on my s4 also. So when I get close to a chirp, I just open that last mentiomed app and it will receive the signal message? Edited December 9, 2014 by St.Matthew Quote Link to comment
+NYPaddleCacher Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 The previous Chirp related post got me thinking. If I create a cache where the user needs to access a Chirp to get the final co-ords deemed legal, are reviewers going to take issue with one if they have not seen it before? I thought there was a guidance where external or third party tools / software is not allowed. Thanks Wil The difference between a Chirp cache and some other cache that might require a third party tool/software is that a chirp cache doesn't require downloading a specific piece of software, perhaps something that might contain a trojan horse or something equally nefarious. There are several GPS receivers that can be used without downloading anything and other means for detecting a chirp. What GS is trying to prevent is the creation of a cache which requires downloading a specific piece of software that might contain a virus or requiring users to go to a specific web site that requires a login or has commercial solicitations. Quote Link to comment
+StefandD Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 So when I get close to a chirp, I just open that last mentiomed app and it will receive the signal message? Yes. Open the app and select Geocache Utility (scroll down to find it, it's the 12th item from above). Then the app will search for chirps. Quote Link to comment
+St.Matthew Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 So when I get close to a chirp, I just open that last mentiomed app and it will receive the signal message? Yes. Open the app and select Geocache Utility (scroll down to find it, it's the 12th item from above). Then the app will search for chirps. Super helpful. Thanks so much! Quote Link to comment
+HackAMen Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 "Mystery" and "Puzzle" are the same thing. You might want to peruse the Guidelines and the Help Center articles a few times. Help Center → Hiding a Geocache → Review Process: Hiding a Geocache 1.18. Mystery/Puzzle http://support.Groundspeak.com/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=277 Guidelines http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx#mystery B. Nice one, thanks Quote Link to comment
+cheech gang Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 So when I get close to a chirp, I just open that last mentiomed app and it will receive the signal message? Yes. Open the app and select Geocache Utility (scroll down to find it, it's the 12th item from above). Then the app will search for chirps. Super helpful. Thanks so much! I had success using this method with my Galaxy S4. I was expecting an audible notice but there was not. When I got near to the chirp a message came up that said something like "tims chirp" and a sort string of numbers. You need to tap that to get the page of info with coordinates and hint to appear. You will then need to manually load those coordinates. Quote Link to comment
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