geocach labels and serial number

[1puffinstuff]

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE TO GET THE OFFICIAL GEOCACH LABELS AND HOW TO OBTAIN A SERIAL NUMBER FOR MY CACHE CONTAINER please email me if possible scuddarl@aol.com i am new to this and only went out to find one a single time and didnt find the cache.

Edited December 3, 2014 by 1puffinstuff

[+crazypig88]

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE TO GET THE OFFICIAL GEOCACH LABELS AND HOW TO OBTAIN A SERIAL NUMBER FOR MY CACHE CONTAINER please email me if possible scuddarl@aol.com i am new to this and only went out to find one a single time and didnt find the cache.

If I were you, I would seriously consider not placing a cache when you have found none at all. You most likely do not know good and bad containers, good hiding spots, and the guidelines of placing a cache.

[+Bear and Ragged]

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE TO GET THE OFFICIAL GEOCACH LABELS AND HOW TO OBTAIN A SERIAL NUMBER FOR MY CACHE CONTAINER please email me if possible scuddarl@aol.com i am new to this and only went out to find one a single time and didnt find the cache.

 

Welcome!

 

Slow down, and find a few first!

Read the guidelines. http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx

read them again.

Read them again!

 

Then think about hiding a cache.

 

When you start to write your cache page you will be given a GC number, which can be added to the cache container.

 

The cache should be in place BEFORE you submit your cache to be reviewed!

(You can save the cache page until you are ready to submit it)

 

As you don't say where you are (this site and forums, like Geocaching, is Worldwide!) the Groundspeak shop is HERE link and it links to international retailers.

Edited December 3, 2014 by Bear and Ragged

[1puffinstuff]

look people i have watched enough videos to know where is best to hide caches according to size and placement possibilities, i just need tc obtain the gc code and the label I already know about permission to hide a cache on public or resident land. so please dont tell me i dont know how or where, i have read all the helpful things and the vids help alot but i havent seen how to get the code for the cache befor i place it.

Edited December 3, 2014 by 1puffinstuff

[+Bear and Ragged]

look people i have watched enough videos to know where is best to hide caches according to size and placement possibilities, i just need tc obtain the gc code and the label

 

You could have a read of the forum guidelines as well

 

2. Forum courtesy: Please treat Groundspeak, its employees, volunteers, fellow community members, and guests in these forums with courtesy and respect. Whether a community member has one post or 5,000 posts, everyone should be treated respectfully.

 

You've watched the videos.

So know where to hide a cache... But can't find the cache your looking for?

 

And. My post included:

As you don't say where you are (this site and forums, like Geocaching, is Worldwide!) the Groundspeak shop is HERE link and it links to international retailers.

Which has a link (click on it!) to the Groundspeak shop.

[+Bear and Ragged]

look people i have watched enough videos to know where is best to hide caches according to size and placement possibilities, i just need tc obtain the gc code and the label I already know about permission to hide a cache on public or resident land. so please dont tell me i dont know how or where, i have read all the helpful things and the vids help alot but i havent seen how to get the code for the cache befor i place it.

This post has been edited by 1puffinstuff: Today, 12:38 AM

 

READ what has been posted in my previous post...

[+The A-Team]

look people i have watched enough videos to know where is best to hide caches according to size and placement possibilities...

I can read all the books I can on flying a plane, but that still doesn't mean I'll be able to jump into the cockpit and fly perfectly the first time.

 

Not only will finding some caches give you more experience with seeing the best ways to hide a cache, it will also give you some time to make sure you're here to stay. Cache ownership is a long-term relationship. We've seen it many times where someone gung-ho about geocaching starts out by hiding a cache, only to quickly lose interest soon after, abandoning their hides to deteriorate into geo-trash.

 

There are cachers who have hid good caches right from the start and kept with the game, so go ahead and hide a cache if you feel you're going to stick around. It's just that we've see far more of the here today/gone tomorrow type cachers and try to discourage that from happening if possible.

 

Welcome to geocaching!

[+Mn-treker]

Look the guy only wants to know where to get labels. Geocaching.com click on the Shop link look around.

There you will find kits labels Travel bugs Geocoins and a whole lot of stuff to get you going.

But also go find more. Seeing reality VS a video is better. Welcome and have fun.

Edited December 3, 2014 by Mn-treker

[1puffinstuff]

you guys arent answering my question, how do i obtain the gc code, i found where to get the labels. and for those of you who insist i find some first, i didnt find the one i looked for because it was raining and i didnt have a flashlight as the clouds were dark and my gps said i was on top or at gret the gound zero but i didnt take time to look across the street because there were trees but it was part of school property. please if you can tell me how to get the gc code i would br greatful. And i am here to stay for you who has seen many come and go, im not investing the past im investing in the future get me.for you who must know i am in Portland Oregon.

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited December 3, 2014 by 1puffinstuff

[+Gitchee-Gummee]

you guys arent answering my question, how do i obtain the gc code, i found where to get the labels. and for those of you who insist i find some first, i didnt find the one i looked for because it was raining and i didnt have a flashlight as the clouds were dark and my gps said i was on top or at gret the gound zero but i didnt take time to look across the street because there were trees but it was part of school property. please if you can tell me how to get the gc code i would br greatful. And i am here to stay for you who has seen many come and go, im not investing the past im investing in the future get me.for you who must know i am in Portland Oregon.

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I know you have read about geocaching -- you said that you did!

But -- reading the posted responses would help a bit, also. RE-READ post #3 for the answer. It's been there all along........

[1puffinstuff]

hey gitchee-gummee, im sure you mean well and all but why cant you just make it simple and just tell me how to get the gc code. im really not very computer literate, and my glasses are being made but dont get then till next week. If you can help me great but your approach is very anal. i ask for specific help and you send me on a url that does mention gc codes but not how to get one it was about archiving.

[+Uncle Alaska]

 

When you start to write your cache page you will be given a GC number, which can be added to the cache container.

 

The cache should be in place BEFORE you submit your cache to be reviewed!

(You can save the cache page until you are ready to submit it)

 

 

From post 3 (above) the answer is right there...maybe come back when you get your glasses?

[+Manville Possum]

You can get the Offical Geocache labels here. The GC code is assigned when you create the draft online.

[1puffinstuff]

and where is the cash page located may i ask. your previous imformation was helpful and makes sense thank you and also to the other people who gave the information i needed help with.So where do i find that page you were talking about.

[4wheelin_fool]

When you create a cache page you are assigned the number, or GC code. Just do this and don't activate it until ready. A link can be found from any existing page on the top left.

[4wheelin_fool]

When you create a cache page you are assigned the number, or GC code. Just do this and don't activate it until ready. A link can be found from any existing page on the top left.

 

http://www.geocaching.com/hide/planning.aspx

[+Bear and Ragged]

Start from here > http://www.geocaching.com/seek/ there's even a video to watch.

 

Or here > http://www.geocaching.com/about/hiding.aspx

Edited December 3, 2014 by Bear and Ragged

[+humboldt flier]

Hmmmmmmmmm,

 

Green with a 'tude" as well.

[1puffinstuff]

funny humboldt flier, i just dont like people judging me. just because some members start out slow or had to learn that way doesnt mean that I shouldnt hide my cache, which has nicer than just the average swag in it. I wanted mine to be slightly different for the first fer to find there are some kool items.I can take the funny abuse so let er rip humboldt.

[+Panther&Pine]

Go with GC12345, or keep reading, learning and doing before trying to place a new cache. There are some things that can be learned just by reading, geocaching isn't one of those things.

[+SageTracey]

1puffinstuff - geocaching is a great hobby and it's terrific that you are so enthusiastic to be contributing by hiding caches. It's also great that you have come onto the forums to ask for help. I think you have the information you need but you have also been offered some really valuable advice. I'm talking about the value of finding at least a few caches before actually hiding your own.

 

Why would I say this? Well, the first time I found a mint tin on a guard rail, I was impressed. The first time I found a magnetic nano on a sign, I was impressed. But after finding quite a few of these, I realised that these hides weren't so clever or unique after all. Yes, I have hidden a couple of mint tins myself, but the caches that I am most proud of are those which are actually different to most of the 200 caches that I have now found. However, I would not have known any of that without going out and finding those caches.

 

Stick with the game, enjoy it and continue to be open to learning.

[1puffinstuff]

what do you mean panther, just because i havent found a cache automaticaly means i cant hide one that only needs a gc code and to be hidden, I have a spot in mind, close to where I live so maintainence wont be a problem, Im sure I will need permission and I will get im it.I dont have your experience but I have alot of enthusiasm because its the only exercise for me right now, if anything your encouragement would be much more fitting. Im excited to really get into this.

[+Panther&Pine]

what do you mean panther, just because i havent found a cache automaticaly means i cant hide one that only needs a gc code and to be hidden, I have a spot in mind, close to where I live so maintainence wont be a problem, Im sure I will need permission and I will get im it.I dont have your experience but I have alot of enthusiasm because its the only exercise for me right now, if anything your encouragement would be much more fitting. Im excited to really get into this.

My encouragement is that you keep finding caches and then maybe in the spring after a hundred or more finds you start thinking about hiding a cache.

[+K13]

what do you mean panther, just because i havent found a cache automaticaly means i cant hide one that only needs a gc code and to be hidden, I have a spot in mind, close to where I live so maintainence wont be a problem, Im sure I will need permission and I will get im it.I dont have your experience but I have alot of enthusiasm because its the only exercise for me right now, if anything your encouragement would be much more fitting. Im excited to really get into this.

 

Do you know how many other caches are near by to your hiding place? That includes Premium Member Only listings (you must be a Premium member to see the coordinates of these caches), physical stages of Multi caches, and final locations for Mystery caches (which may be up to two miles from the blue ? on the map)?

 

I haven't been to the Portland area, but just a quick look shows 13,400+ caches within 50 miles of the downtown area. Finding a space that isn't too near another cache may be an issue, if you haven't found those close to your planned hiding spot.

 

These are just a couple of the reasons it would be a good idea to find the caches near your planned hiding place. There are LOADS of information in the Help Center, some of which was linked in post #3 above.

 

It may be a good idea to attend some events in your area. You may meet some helpful local geocachers who are willing to 'show you the ropes' of how this game is played.

 

Good Luck.

[+humboldt flier]

funny humboldt flier, i just dont like people judging me. just because some members start out slow or had to learn that way doesnt mean that I shouldnt hide my cache, which has nicer than just the average swag in it. I wanted mine to be slightly different for the first fer to find there are some kool items.I can take the funny abuse so let er rip humboldt.

 

Per some wise words from another poster:

 

"Stick with the game, enjoy it and continue to be open to learning".

 

Enjoy the learning experiences that will unfold.

[+niraD]

I have a spot in mind, close to where I live so maintainence wont be a problem

Also, it won't be a problem to retrieve your cache if/when it turns out to be too close to an existing cache.

 

Believe it or not, people posting to this thread are trying to be helpful. I don't think there is any magic number of finds that automatically qualifies someone to hide caches, but I do think that it's a good idea to find enough caches of various types that you get a feel for the kinds of caches you enjoy, the kinds of containers that work well, the kinds of hides that work well, and the kinds of caches you'd like to own and maintain for the long term.

 

It isn't mandatory, of course, but it is usually a good idea.

[+irisisleuk]

The questions you have are answered, so I presume you can go ahead and hide a cache now.

 

I have a question for you: what kind of gps do you have? And do you know how the coordinates should be determined and what coordinate system has to be used?

[+BCandMsKitty]

look people i have watched enough videos to know where is best to hide caches according to size and placement possibilities, i just need tc obtain the gc code and the label I already know about permission to hide a cache on public or resident land. so please dont tell me i dont know how or where, i have read all the helpful things and the vids help alot but i havent seen how to get the code for the cache befor i place it.

 

Look, 1puffinstuff ........

 

Watching videos doesn't teach you how to hide a geocache ..... if it did, you'd know where to get your GC code .... (serial number, as you call it)

 

The advice to read the guidelines is good advice, because (in case you didn't know ), your cache will have to be reviewed before it can be published.

If you haven't read enough to figure out where to get a GC number, then you certainly don't know what you have to do to satisfy a reviewer, and will likely have troubles when you submit it for review!

 

Don't be so sensitive. Many of the comments here are to help you get going. To me it doesn't matter how many caches one has found before hiding, but, no finds, or thousands, you still need to do it right, or it won't get published!

 

Now ... since you don't want to read and learn, go here

click on the "Create A Geocache) link, and have at it!

You'll get your "serial number" for your cache.

 

Good luck with that.

Edited December 3, 2014 by BC & MsKitty

[+narcissa]

what do you mean panther, just because i havent found a cache automaticaly means i cant hide one that only needs a gc code and to be hidden, I have a spot in mind, close to where I live so maintainence wont be a problem, Im sure I will need permission and I will get im it.I dont have your experience but I have alot of enthusiasm because its the only exercise for me right now, if anything your encouragement would be much more fitting. Im excited to really get into this.

 

Do you know for certain that the spot is available? Have you checked other caches in the area to make sure you don't violate the proximity guideline?

[Mr.Yuck]

what do you mean panther, just because i havent found a cache automaticaly means i cant hide one that only needs a gc code and to be hidden, I have a spot in mind, close to where I live so maintainence wont be a problem, Im sure I will need permission and I will get im it.I dont have your experience but I have alot of enthusiasm because its the only exercise for me right now, if anything your encouragement would be much more fitting. Im excited to really get into this.

My encouragement is that you keep finding caches and then maybe in the spring after a hundred or more finds you start thinking about hiding a cache.

 

Not to pile on, but the unofficial official word from The Powers That Be is you should find 25 before hiding. This has appeared in blog posts, the weekly newsletter, and in the excellent, but little known, official Geocaching.com powerpoint presentation.

[+irisisleuk]

what do you mean panther, just because i havent found a cache automaticaly means i cant hide one that only needs a gc code and to be hidden, I have a spot in mind, close to where I live so maintainence wont be a problem, Im sure I will need permission and I will get im it.I dont have your experience but I have alot of enthusiasm because its the only exercise for me right now, if anything your encouragement would be much more fitting. Im excited to really get into this.

My encouragement is that you keep finding caches and then maybe in the spring after a hundred or more finds you start thinking about hiding a cache.

 

Not to pile on, but the unofficial official word from The Powers That Be is you should find 25 before hiding. This has appeared in blog posts, the weekly newsletter, and in the excellent, but little known, official Geocaching.com powerpoint presentation.

 

Interesting, but the topic starter said he watched the videos. In the Basics of the videos, the one for hiding a geocache(

) they say to find 100 caches before hiding your own. This topic inspired me to watch it (of course I've seen the previous ones) and at the end there is a link to another video on hiding a geocache if you want to learn more: http://www.geocaching.com/about/hiding.aspx . And if the topic starter watches this and reads the information provided there he shouldn't have a problem placing a geocache and/or finding the "serial number".

 

Educational topic by the way, I never knew the GC-code is being called serial number. I couldn't find the video where it is called serial number, but that specific video must have created the confusion for the TS and should be changed. Trackables do have serial numbers, although I usually use the term tracking code for those.

[+NYPaddleCacher]

what do you mean panther, just because i havent found a cache automaticaly means i cant hide one that only needs a gc code and to be hidden, I have a spot in mind, close to where I live so maintainence wont be a problem, Im sure I will need permission and I will get im it.I dont have your experience but I have alot of enthusiasm because its the only exercise for me right now, if anything your encouragement would be much more fitting. Im excited to really get into this.

My encouragement is that you keep finding caches and then maybe in the spring after a hundred or more finds you start thinking about hiding a cache.

 

Not to pile on, but the unofficial official word from The Powers That Be is you should find 25 before hiding. This has appeared in blog posts, the weekly newsletter, and in the excellent, but little known, official Geocaching.com powerpoint presentation.

 

Obviously this is just a suggestion and isn't enforced anywhere. Otherwise there are a *lot* of countries that won't get any new caches other than an occasional vacation cache (with or without a local maintainer).

 

Although creating a minimum number of finds before you can hide a cache guideline might seem like a good idea, it would actually have an opposite effect. Those that live in cache dense areas will find it easier to get 100 finds than those that live in cache sparse areas. The net effect would be that it will be easier to create more caches in areas that are already cache dense, but difficult to qualify for hiding a cache in areas that could use more caches.

 

 

[+Mn-treker]

what do you mean panther, just because i havent found a cache automaticaly means i cant hide one that only needs a gc code and to be hidden, I have a spot in mind, close to where I live so maintainence wont be a problem, Im sure I will need permission and I will get im it.I dont have your experience but I have alot of enthusiasm because its the only exercise for me right now, if anything your encouragement would be much more fitting. Im excited to really get into this.

it is quite obvious that you need to learn more. I have not watched the videos So I don't know what you saw.

Step (1) Click on the link Play - Hide and seek a cache.

Step (2)Find the link Create a Geocache. Click on it and follow the directions. BUT FIRST YOU NEED TO GO HIDE IT!! and get cords. Or just go to the spot and get cords.

Step (3) When you are all done creating the cache page look over it well. Is everything correct, are the cords correct. at the top right hand corner you will see the GC code.

That is how you get a GC code. If you have not placed the container now you can make the label and go hide it.

Step (4) Go back home open the cache page that you made,click on the submit link on the cache page.

Step (5) Wait for the reviewer to publish it or tell you no go due to problems. Property issues-to close to another-unlawful spot. Or a whole host of other problems.

Step (5) If published watch the finders log in.

But dump the TUDE first. You have shown poor behavior. You have much to learn young one.

[+SwineFlew]

Why people are so mean here?

[Pup Patrol]

Why people are so mean here?

 

There's been nothing "mean" posted here. Not every reply can be all "unicorns and rainbows".

 

Especially when the OP responds with an aggressive and not very nice stance. The only "mean" response has been from the OP.

 

Some people can't take constructive criticism. Seems to be the way of the world nowadays.

 

There's been some very helpful advice posted here. It's a pity that some people only come here to stir up trouble, and the helpful, wise advice gets shunted to the side for the sake of creating "drama".

 

 

B.

Edited December 4, 2014 by Pup Patrol

[+hydnsek]

This week's Groundspeak newsletter was very timely to this topic.

 

Hiding a geocache is a big step in the life of a geocacher. Having a geocache of your very own takes work. The planning, dedication, construction and maintenance required are nothing to scoff at—but when those smileys, fun-filled “Found it!” logs and Favorite Points start rolling in, it’s all worth it.

 

If you've already hidden a geocache,

for a few ideas on how to take your geocache to the next level.

 

Have what it takes to hide the next great geocache? Take our

new Hiders Quiz

and see just how well you know the Geocache Listing Requirements and Guidelines.

 

If the OP passes the New Hider Quiz, he might be good to go.

[+Manville Possum]

Hiding a geocache is quite simple. I can use Google Earth and get the coordinates within 9 feet. I scout the location with Google Earth first, enter those coordinate on my draft page, check for proxcimity of other caches in the area, then visit the site and average the coordinates with my GPS unit to be sure. I would assume that if the OP is interested in a offical geocache sticker and the GC code that they are quite advanced already as a beginner. If they care enough to buy an offical sticker, maybe they will put it on a suitable container.

 

I have faith in the OP on their first hide. Personally, I suck at finding a geocache but I'm darn good at hiding one. It don't take an expert.

[+humboldt flier]

Dear O.P.,

 

Have you had any success in getting your cache up and running??

[Keystone]

The OP has not created any draft cache listings, which means he does not yet have a GC Code. So, see Post #3.

[+Bear and Ragged]

Still waiting for his glasses?

[+TerraViators]

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE TO GET THE OFFICIAL GEOCACH LABELS AND HOW TO OBTAIN A SERIAL NUMBER FOR MY CACHE CONTAINER please email me if possible scuddarl@aol.com i am new to this and only went out to find one a single time and didnt find the cache.

If I were you, I would seriously consider not placing a cache when you have found none at all. You most likely do not know good and bad containers, good hiding spots, and the guidelines of placing a cache.

I disagree with this concept. I hid my first cache before ever finding one. Everything I needed was on the website. The cache lasted a couple years without issue before I archived it.

[+Panther&Pine]

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE TO GET THE OFFICIAL GEOCACH LABELS AND HOW TO OBTAIN A SERIAL NUMBER FOR MY CACHE CONTAINER please email me if possible scuddarl@aol.com i am new to this and only went out to find one a single time and didnt find the cache.

If I were you, I would seriously consider not placing a cache when you have found none at all. You most likely do not know good and bad containers, good hiding spots, and the guidelines of placing a cache.

I disagree with this concept. I hid my first cache before ever finding one. Everything I needed was on the website. The cache lasted a couple years without issue before I archived it.

You read and understood what you read, big difference.

[+jellis]

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE TO GET THE OFFICIAL GEOCACH LABELS AND HOW TO OBTAIN A SERIAL NUMBER FOR MY CACHE CONTAINER please email me if possible scuddarl@aol.com i am new to this and only went out to find one a single time and didnt find the cache.

If I were you, I would seriously consider not placing a cache when you have found none at all. You most likely do not know good and bad containers, good hiding spots, and the guidelines of placing a cache.

I disagree with this concept. I hid my first cache before ever finding one. Everything I needed was on the website. The cache lasted a couple years without issue before I archived it.

I agree and disagree. Yes there are plenty of newbies who never found a cache and hide good caches. But if the cacher clearly doesn't understand anything what is explained to him/her or wants what help is given then they aren't ready to place a cache.

Edited December 10, 2014 by jellis

[+wmpastor]

One post accuses the thread-starter of having a "'tude," and another post calls the other posters mean.

 

One thing's for sure - about 90% of the posts say "don't place a cache yet." The host asked for help placing a cache. No big surprise that he's disappointed when most people nix his goal. With the exuberance of youth, what he heard here was a metaphorical pat on the head and a "not yet, Sonny Boy, maybe in the future."

 

Yes, I agree finding caches can improve your skill at placing them.

 

Given the poor caches i've occasionally seen placed by veterans, I see no harm in having a new player place a cache. It can solidify their interest in the game and bring their friends in too. Might they drop out? Yes - and i've seen veterans leave abandoned cache geolitter also.

[+Touchstone]

CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHERE TO GET THE OFFICIAL GEOCACH LABELS AND HOW TO OBTAIN A SERIAL NUMBER FOR MY CACHE CONTAINER please email me if possible scuddarl@aol.com i am new to this and only went out to find one a single time and didnt find the cache.

 

To summarize...

 

1. You can obtain "official" cache labels from the Groundspeak store, and various vendors online (google is your friend). While the official labels/stickers are nifty, they are not a requirement. The Guidelines state:

 

...clearly label it as a "geocache" and include the GC code on the outside of the container.

 

This can be accomplished with indelible marker, like a Sharpie or something similar. The same portion of the Guidelines also recommends including a cache note in your container, explaining what the game is about, in the event someone unfamiliar with the game stumbles upon your container accidentally.

 

2. The "serial number" your asking about is actually referred to as a GC Code which is assigned by the website when you generate a cache Listing page..

 

Good luck!

[+humboldt flier]

I think we all wish the individual well:

 

The following is from the O.P. responding to another poster

 

" ... but your approach is very anal ..." Seems like a "tude" to some of us.

[+Manville Possum]

I think we all wish the individual well:

 

The following is from the O.P. responding to another poster

 

" ... but your approach is very anal ..." Seems like a "tude" to some of us.

I think they fit this group well.

[+jellis]

look people i have watched enough videos to know where is best to hide caches according to size and placement possibilities, i just need tc obtain the gc code and the label I already know about permission to hide a cache on public or resident land. so please dont tell me i dont know how or where, i have read all the helpful things and the vids help alot but i havent seen how to get the code for the cache befor i place it.

This was his second message. He clearly doesn't want to listen.

Edited December 11, 2014 by jellis

[+jellis]

you guys arent answering my question, how do i obtain the gc code, i found where to get the labels. and for those of you who insist i find some first, i didnt find the one i looked for because it was raining and i didnt have a flashlight as the clouds were dark and my gps said i was on top or at gret the gound zero but i didnt take time to look across the street because there were trees but it was part of school property. please if you can tell me how to get the gc code i would br greatful. And i am here to stay for you who has seen many come and go, im not investing the past im investing in the future get me.for you who must know i am in Portland Oregon.

 

p

Post number #3 was trying to explain how to get the GC code but they still didn't get it. Here they said they didn't need labels just the code.

[+popokiiti]

Have you placed the cache hide and completed the online submission form, including the coordinates of where your hide is? If you have, your GC code is generated then.......but the cache has to be approved by a reviewer before other cachers can go looking for it. What sort of device do you plan on using to get those coordinates, by the way?

Please find some caches first, before you try hiding one. We cache on Christmas and New Year's Day, whatever the weather, so don't let a little rain stop you!