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Regarding the "Recently Viewed Caches"

 

It appears y'all think it's a wonderful thing and it isn't likely to go away. If you could move it to the bottom of the page under the useful Last 30 Days or make it so that it takes the same amount of space as the list of links starting with "Quick View | Lists | ... " at the top of the page I could ignore it and live with that.

 

No, I do not think that it is wonderful thing. If you use Firefox or Chrome you could use Adblock to get rid of the list,

see post #6 in this thread

http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=326958

I have finally decided to use Adblock, too.

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And off you go on a massive tangent yet again...

:rolleyes: Okay...

Here's a tangent-free restating of what cezanne was saying:

 

Removing the option to hide the "Recently viewed caches" section harms users.

Keeping the option to hide the "Recently viewed caches" section harms no one.

 

Apparently the option was removed as part of the piecemeal redesign of the My Profile page. IMO, this is a case where the current sprint-style software development method falls down. Rather than redesign the page in its entirety and then release the final result, we get small steps along the way which involve the elimination of old functionality before the new, replacement functionality has been released. GSHQ developers, for future large-scale changes, please consider using a different development style wherein you fully-complete the change before releasing it rather than doing it piecemeal. It would be easier for you to develop without having to support hybrid code (some old, some new), and the users would be faced with a single large change rather than many small ones that may each have more negative impact (see "Recently viewed caches" option change).

 

...and I've said it before, and I'll say it again: if resources are a problem, I'd happily pay more for my Premium membership so that you can hire the resources necessary to properly support the site. Jeremy's vow to never increase the price will never be sustainable long-term and will have to be broken at some point. From what I can see from my side, this point has either been passed or is quickly approaching.

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And off you go on a massive tangent yet again...

:rolleyes: Okay...

Here's a tangent-free restating of what cezanne was saying:

 

Removing the option to hide the "Recently viewed caches" section harms users.

Keeping the option to hide the "Recently viewed caches" section harms no one.

 

 

Even with cezanne's tangent removed - I don't see how this harms users enough to justify the amount of unrest it seems to have caused.

 

I mean, how does it actually harm users? Physically? Emotionally? Psychologically? Spiritually?

 

I can only think I must be missing something fundamental.

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Even with cezanne's tangent removed - I don't see how this harms users enough to justify the amount of unrest it seems to have caused.

 

I mean, how does it actually harm users? Physically? Emotionally? Psychologically? Spiritually?

 

I can only think I must be missing something fundamental.

 

This feature was put in not long after "Recently Viewed" was added, specifically to appease this group of users. You can go find the threads that feature generated if you're really interested. It's a very minor change for them, and something that has already been implemented, so the removal of it without a satisfactory reason upsets users.

 

The only explanation we have is that it declutters the user settings page. By removing one line on a page not viewed often. In return, we get 6 extra lines (heading, blank line, 4 recently viewed caches) on the "Your Profile" page which, for many, is the landing page for geocaching.com. Hardly seems like decluttering to me.

 

By the way, did the list go from 5 to 4? Or was I hallucinating when I thought I saw 5 previously?

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By the way, did the list go from 5 to 4? Or was I hallucinating when I thought I saw 5 previously?

Nope, I noticed this too a long time ago. I tried to reproduce the situation by viewing a cache on the list of five with c:geo, but that didn't reduce the list. But there certainly exists a condition where five < 5.

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Regarding the "Recently Viewed Caches"

 

It appears y'all think it's a wonderful thing and it isn't likely to go away. If you could move it to the bottom of the page under the useful Last 30 Days or make it so that it takes the same amount of space as the list of links starting with "Quick View | Lists | ... " at the top of the page I could ignore it and live with that.

 

No, I do not think that it is wonderful thing. If you use Firefox or Chrome you could use Adblock to get rid of the list,

see post #6 in this thread

http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=326958

I have finally decided to use Adblock, too.

 

The y'all I was referring to was the folks at Groundspeak ... not the folks actually using the site for geocaching purposes. Sorry for the confusion. I see no reason why I should have to add extra stuff to my browsing experience ... Adblock is just one more thing that can ... and will ... go wrong.

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Why can't I update my profile page? The format of this page seems to have changed recently. After updating my Bio, I typed in the security word and clicked saved. The transmission returned an error stating that my user name (which is White Dane & Irish Setter) needs to be between 2 and 20 characters long. Obviously mine is longer, so do we have to change our user names now?

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Why can't I update my profile page? The format of this page seems to have changed recently. After updating my Bio, I typed in the security word and clicked saved. The transmission returned an error stating that my user name (which is White Dane & Irish Setter) needs to be between 2 and 20 characters long. Obviously mine is longer, so do we have to change our user names now?

 

This issue will be corrected in the next site release.

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After updating my Bio, I typed in the security word and clicked saved.

Strange, I haven't seen a security word feature (is it like CAPTCHA?) attached to the Bio section. I can just enter stuff in the Bio field and save.

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The concept of a "profile picture" as it was no longer exists. You have one singular image now that represents you, both on your profile and in logs. If you want a larger image shown on your profile, you can add it via HTML in your profile contents.

 

I once had a very pleasant afternoon when two fellow cachers saw a log I had written, realised I was staying at the same hotel and used our profile picture to find us in a crowd. The fact that the profile picture was located at the top of the page made this easy for them.

 

I want my profile picture back. Maybe Moun10Bike could offer some HTML which will put a picture back in the top right corner without shoving the rest of the profile data further down the page.

 

Thanks

 

Tony

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Why can't I update my profile page? The format of this page seems to have changed recently. After updating my Bio, I typed in the security word and clicked saved. The transmission returned an error stating that my user name (which is White Dane & Irish Setter) needs to be between 2 and 20 characters long. Obviously mine is longer, so do we have to change our user names now?

 

This issue will be corrected in the next site release.

 

Which is scheduled for?

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The concept of a "profile picture" as it was no longer exists. You have one singular image now that represents you, both on your profile and in logs. If you want a larger image shown on your profile, you can add it via HTML in your profile contents.

 

I once had a very pleasant afternoon when two fellow cachers saw a log I had written, realised I was staying at the same hotel and used our profile picture to find us in a crowd. The fact that the profile picture was located at the top of the page made this easy for them.

 

I want my profile picture back. Maybe Moun10Bike could offer some HTML which will put a picture back in the top right corner without shoving the rest of the profile data further down the page.

 

Thanks

 

Tony

 

Look at my profile. I've moved my profile picture up and set it as big as possible without overwriting other things.

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Why can't I update my profile page? The format of this page seems to have changed recently. After updating my Bio, I typed in the security word and clicked saved. The transmission returned an error stating that my user name (which is White Dane & Irish Setter) needs to be between 2 and 20 characters long. Obviously mine is longer, so do we have to change our user names now?

 

This issue will be corrected in the next site release.

 

Which is scheduled for?

 

It is currently scheduled for next Tuesday in our regular release cycle.

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The concept of a "profile picture" as it was no longer exists. You have one singular image now that represents you, both on your profile and in logs. If you want a larger image shown on your profile, you can add it via HTML in your profile contents.

 

I once had a very pleasant afternoon when two fellow cachers saw a log I had written, realised I was staying at the same hotel and used our profile picture to find us in a crowd. The fact that the profile picture was located at the top of the page made this easy for them.

 

I want my profile picture back. Maybe Moun10Bike could offer some HTML which will put a picture back in the top right corner without shoving the rest of the profile data further down the page.

 

Thanks

 

Tony

 

Look at my profile. I've moved my profile picture up and set it as big as possible without overwriting other things.

Hey! That works, thanx!

 

Just to explain, I put this at the beginning of my bio:

 

<div style="position:relative; top:-280px; left:597px">
<a href="https://www.geocaching.com/myaccount/settings/profile">
<img src="http://imgcdn.geocaching.com/user/your-image-url-here.jpg" width="175" border="0" /></a></div>

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Hey! That works, thanx!

 

Just to explain, I put this at the beginning of my bio:

 

<div style="position:relative; top:-280px; left:597px">
<a href="https://www.geocaching.com/myaccount/settings/profile">
<img src="http://imgcdn.geocaching.com/user/your-image-url-here.jpg" width="175" border="0" /></a></div>

 

It overwrites however the 2014 part of the date and it pushes down the text in the profile (at least this is true when I view

your profile with Firefox).

 

I on purpose decided against a change of that type and put my photo further down. My favourite was however the original way everything

looked like up to the recent release.

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Why can't I update my profile page? The format of this page seems to have changed recently. After updating my Bio, I typed in the security word and clicked saved. The transmission returned an error stating that my user name (which is White Dane & Irish Setter) needs to be between 2 and 20 characters long. Obviously mine is longer, so do we have to change our user names now?

 

This issue will be corrected in the next site release.

 

Which is scheduled for?

 

It is currently scheduled for next Tuesday in our regular release cycle.

 

Thanks for the info - and the speedy response B)

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I guess my photo was taking up way too much room so I deleted it for you. Guess there's no point in trying to have a unique profile page. Thanks guys.

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And off you go on a massive tangent yet again...

:rolleyes: Okay...

Here's a tangent-free restating of what cezanne was saying:

 

Removing the option to hide the "Recently viewed caches" section harms users.

Keeping the option to hide the "Recently viewed caches" section harms no one.

 

 

Says it in a nutshell.

Some of us find it very annoying, and miss being able to block it. Our being able to block it harms no one.

Some like it (though I have no idea why), allowing the rest of us to block it harms no one.

So, pretty please, bring back to option to block "Recently viewed caches."

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Some of us find it very annoying

 

Not just annoying but very annoying?

 

I still don't get why :unsure:

 

It's annoying to those who have no use for it and don't want it. For a start it's right there at the top of the profile page (which is my default "landing" page for GC.com), it takes up a lot of screen real estate (for me on my laptop that's ALL I can see), which is annoying if it's something you don't want to see - no different to if GC.com decided to put a big picture of kittens/puppies/frogs right there.

 

Just to be clear I find that list useful and didn't hide it anyway, so this particular change doesn't affect me but it seems odd that they've put development effort into removing a feature that was specifically requested when that list first appeared, and which is neutral to those who (like me) don't use it.

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Some of us find it very annoying

 

Not just annoying but very annoying?

 

I still don't get why :unsure:

 

It's annoying to those who have no use for it and don't want it. For a start it's right there at the top of the profile page (which is my default "landing" page for GC.com), it takes up a lot of screen real estate (for me on my laptop that's ALL I can see), which is annoying if it's something you don't want to see - no different to if GC.com decided to put a big picture of kittens/puppies/frogs right there.

 

 

I'm going to be a nit-picker here and point out that at least the information that is currently presented is useful geocaching related information - whereas a big picture of kittens/puppies/frogs would be much, much less so :D

 

I expect that if you're on a smaller screen where that box fills the whole screen and it's something you absolutely don't use, scrolling down would be a very, very minor inconvenience. Having to do that every single time you log in though I can appreciate to some small degree how the annoyance factor might be cumulative over time - but I can also see how getting very annoyed about it probably causes more stress than simply accepting that it's there and scrolling past it. I mean, it's not like that amount of scrolling is going to push you over your scrolling budget for the day - is it? Look on the bright size - it's extra exercise, which is good for health B)

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Not just annoying but very annoying?

I still don't get why :unsure:

You're falling into the same trap that the developers over at the Lilypad regularly fall into.

 

You do not need to understand why something annoys me (or by how much) in order to accept that it does so (although, in the case of the dev team, understanding "why" can certainly help in improving the site overall.)

 

For the record: I'm personally ambivalent on the "recent caches" thing. It is neither useful nor annoying to me. But I can understand and accept that to some folks it is one or the other.

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Not just annoying but very annoying?

I still don't get why :unsure:

You're falling into the same trap that the developers over at the Lilypad regularly fall into.

 

You do not need to understand why something annoys me (or by how much) in order to accept that it does so (although, in the case of the dev team, understanding "why" can certainly help in improving the site overall.)

 

For the record: I'm personally ambivalent on the "recent caches" thing. It is neither useful nor annoying to me. But I can understand and accept that to some folks it is one or the other.

 

No - I'm not falling into any trap at all.

 

Where you are correct is in saying that I do not need to understand why something annoys another person - but I have a mild interest so I asked. I'm inquisitive like that - which helps me to learn stuff, including the ways in which the thinking of others differs from my own - which can be interesting sometimes.

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Where you are correct is in saying that I do not need to understand why something annoys another person - but I have a mild interest so I asked. I'm inquisitive like that - which helps me to learn stuff, including the ways in which the thinking of others differs from my own - which can be interesting sometimes.

Fair enough. Perhaps you'd be an asset to the Frog's dev team after all :grin:

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Where you are correct is in saying that I do not need to understand why something annoys another person - but I have a mild interest so I asked. I'm inquisitive like that - which helps me to learn stuff, including the ways in which the thinking of others differs from my own - which can be interesting sometimes.

Fair enough. Perhaps you'd be an asset to the Frog's dev team after all :grin:

 

Maybe I would - but I doubt they would agree <_<

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I expect that if you're on a smaller screen where that box fills the whole screen and it's something you absolutely don't use, scrolling down would be a very, very minor inconvenience. Having to do that every single time you log in though I can appreciate to some small degree how the annoyance factor might be cumulative over time

 

Not every single time one logs into the site, but every single time one wants to use something from the my page which makes a huge difference and will occur much more often for some users.

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I expect that if you're on a smaller screen where that box fills the whole screen and it's something you absolutely don't use, scrolling down would be a very, very minor inconvenience. Having to do that every single time you log in though I can appreciate to some small degree how the annoyance factor might be cumulative over time

 

Not every single time one logs into the site, but every single time one wants to use something from the my page which makes a huge difference and will occur much more often for some users.

 

Thank you for the correction - I shall immediately don the hair shirt in penance for my shocking and potentially catastrophic error B)

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Not every single time one logs into the site, but every single time one wants to use something from the my page which makes a huge difference and will occur much more often for some users.

 

Thank you for the correction - I shall immediately don the hair shirt in penance for my shocking and potentially catastrophic error B)

 

My intent was not to correct you, but to try to explain why some cachers are (very) annoyed by the change - I thought that it was your wish to understand this reaction.

Of course everyone could accept every change with calmness, and if you are the sort of person who reacts that way to things you cannot change, good for you.

I'm not sure if you really wish to understand why others are annoyed or rather want them to convince that the issue is not large enough to be annoyed.

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Where you are correct is in saying that I do not need to understand why something annoys another person - but I have a mild interest so I asked. I'm inquisitive like that - which helps me to learn stuff, including the ways in which the thinking of others differs from my own - which can be interesting sometimes.

Perhaps I misunderstood, but based on your earlier comments, "I still don't get why" came across as "I don't find it annoying so you should not find it annoying". Some others may have that impression as well.

 

Personally, I actually find it useful, but I agree with the others that a simple option to turn it off for those who don't want to see it should not have been removed. It occupies a prime location on "Your Profile" page (anyone still recall the minor outburst when it was named from "My Profile" to "Your Profile"?) and having those extra 6 or so lines means you get 6 or so fewer entries in your recent logs.

 

That Profile page is used by many as the landing spot for geocaching.com. I find it much more useful to go directly to that page than to go to the site's home page.

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Not every single time one logs into the site, but every single time one wants to use something from the my page which makes a huge difference and will occur much more often for some users.

 

Thank you for the correction - I shall immediately don the hair shirt in penance for my shocking and potentially catastrophic error B)

 

My intent was not to correct you, but to try to explain why some cachers are (very) annoyed by the change - I thought that it was your wish to understand this reaction.

Of course everyone could accept every change with calmness, and if you are the sort of person who reacts that way to things you cannot change, good for you.

I'm not sure if you really wish to understand why others are annoyed or rather want them to convince that the issue is not large enough to be annoyed.

 

But you still haven't explained WHY some cachers are (very) annoyed by the change - absolutely nothing about your post explains anything at all :huh:

 

I'm quite happy to be convinced - by a convincing argument - that the presence of this small box of text at this particular place on a web page is a major, major inconvenience to people but I think we both already know that you're probably not the person for the job :)

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I'm quite happy to be convinced - by a convincing argument - that the presence of this small box of text at this particular place on a web page is a major, major inconvenience to people but I think we both already know that you're probably not the person for the job :)

 

The issue is that it is a major inconvience to a certain type of people, but not to people who think that having to scroll down whenever they use the my page (that means in many cases much more often than logging into the site) is not a big deal and even healthy.

You argue that this additional scrolling around is not an inconvience, That way you will never arrive at a understanding of people who are different than you.

Personally I prefer if I have to use the mouse as seldom as possible.

 

As "small box" is regarded: On many laptop screens what you describe as small box covers the whole my page.

 

It's pretty much like the situation that people who are able to handle nanos quickly and with ease cannot understand that others who need to spend 15 minutes and more with this job really hate nanos and get furious when encountering them.

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Where you are correct is in saying that I do not need to understand why something annoys another person - but I have a mild interest so I asked. I'm inquisitive like that - which helps me to learn stuff, including the ways in which the thinking of others differs from my own - which can be interesting sometimes.

Perhaps I misunderstood, but based on your earlier comments, "I still don't get why" came across as "I don't find it annoying so you should not find it annoying".

 

You may have interpreted i that way. If people want to be annoyed about minor things then they are at liberty so to do. Why should they let me or anyone else get in the way of being annoyed?

 

Some others may have that impression as well.

 

Vague and unspecified enough that I can't see the relevance - but OK.

 

Personally, I actually find it useful

 

I find it useful too - so I'd like it to stay where it is :)

 

(anyone still recall the minor outburst when it was named from "My Profile" to "Your Profile"?)

 

I don't remember it - but the idea that this would cause an outburst of any size beggars belief.

 

and having those extra 6 or so lines means you get 6 or so fewer entries in your recent logs.

 

I'm OK with that.

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and having those extra 6 or so lines means you get 6 or so fewer entries in your recent logs.

I'm OK with that.

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with you being OK with that.

 

Why is it then you're so down on other not being OK with it?

 

We gave you explanations. You don't accept it. We disagree. Let's move on. Why continue trying to ridicule others for their preference?

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I'm quite happy to be convinced - by a convincing argument - that the presence of this small box of text at this particular place on a web page is a major, major inconvenience to people but I think we both already know that you're probably not the person for the job :)

 

The issue is that it is a major inconvience to a certain type of people

 

Yes - you've already said that but what you've not said is how it's a major inconvenience.

 

You argue that this additional scrolling around is not an inconvience, That way you will never arrive at a understanding of people who are different than you.

 

Again - if you can explain how it's a major inconvenience in a convincing manner then I am willing to be persuaded. So far you've not done that.

 

Perhaps you might calculate the impact of all that extra scrolling in something like the extra calories burned by the human body over the course of a year to perform the task. That at least would give it some quantifiable measure.

 

Personally I prefer if I have to use the mouse as seldom as possible.

 

Fine - don't use it at all. I can only comment on Microsoft Windows as an OS but that surely has sufficient keyboard shortcuts that one may use the computer in a completely effective manner without ever touching a mouse at all.

 

As "small box" is regarded: On many laptop screens what you describe as small box covers the whole my page.

 

Read my previous posts and you'll see I've already covered this.

 

It's pretty much like the situation that people who are able to handle nanos quickly and with ease cannot understand that others who need to spend 15 minutes and more with this job really hate nanos and get furious when encountering them.

 

It might be - if the people who really hate this text box had to spend 15 minutes scrolling past it. But they don't.

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and having those extra 6 or so lines means you get 6 or so fewer entries in your recent logs.

I'm OK with that.

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with you being OK with that.

 

Why is it then you're so down on other not being OK with it?

 

We gave you explanations. You don't accept it. We disagree. Let's move on. Why continue trying to ridicule others for their preference?

 

I'm not down on other people not being OK with it - whatever that means.

 

I simply don't understand it - but I can see how the volume of white noise about such a trivial issue might put Groundspeak off ever engaging in meaningful dialogue about any changes they feel they need to make to their website with the people that have to use it - which includes me - so I have a vested interest.

 

And I'm sorry - but you haven't given me any meaningful explanations at all.

 

Yes - let's move on - as we're getting nowhere here.

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Again - if you can explain how it's a major inconvenience in a convincing manner then I am willing to be persuaded. So far you've not done that.

 

Perhaps you might calculate the impact of all that extra scrolling in something like the extra calories burned by the human body over the course of a year to perform the task. That at least would give it some quantifiable measure.

 

Not everything that frustrates/annoys etc people can be quantified. It is completely senseless to me to have to scroll down each time I use the my profile page to access the only part of the my page which is of interest to me.

It's like if you would need to enter a certain default value each time you start a program. This might only require a few seconds, but still is something I regard as very annoying of the program cannot remember the default setting.

 

I already tried to explain to you in vain that what's minor or major is something subjective which cannot be quantified but you then accused me of a coming up with a tangent.

 

 

Cezanne

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Not everything that frustrates/annoys etc people can be quantified.

 

This isn't the basis for convincing a person to make a change to something you don't like - when there are other people who like that thing just fine.

 

A convincing argument would allow the person the change is requested of to assess the relative impact to the concerned parties of making that change or not making that change.

 

It's really that simple.

 

It is completely senseless to me to have to scroll down each time I use the my profile page to access the only part of the my page which is of interest to me.

 

The website isn't just for you.

 

Only so much information will fit on a single page at a single time.

 

Scrolling is a fact of life and the amount of scrolling we are talking about here is miniscule.

 

I already tried to explain to you in vain that what's minor or major is something subjective which cannot be quantified but you then accused me of a coming up with a tangent.

 

On that occasion you did go off on a tangent - or at least you failed to provide an explanation as to how it wasn't a tangent when the opportunity was given to you.

 

Unless you can lend more substance to your argument, I think we're done here.

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Not everything that frustrates/annoys etc people can be quantified.

 

This isn't the basis for convincing a person to make a change to something you don't like - when there are other people who like that thing just fine.

 

You seem to overlook that what I wrote should serve as an explanation for you why some users are annoyed by the return of the list they formerly could hide (for many months) and not

as an argument directed to Groundspeak. Groundspeak does what they want anyway.

 

Moreover note that the discussion here was not about taking away anything from those who like the list of recently viewed caches. It was also not asking something that needs to be implemented from scratch.

The removed functionality existed and removing it did not lead to a site that serves anyone better than before.

 

 

 

The website isn't just for you.

 

I never claimed it is. You asked why some people regard the change as annoying.

 

Only so much information will fit on a single page at a single time.

 

True, but the list of recently viewed cache displays information *I* and others never use. It does not make sense for me to scroll down

every time to get access to the only things that are important for me.

 

 

Scrolling is a fact of life and the amount of scrolling we are talking about here is miniscule.

 

I do not agree and that's why I have meanwhile installed the adblock workaround on a number of computers and will add further ones even if this solution

is far from optimal.

 

 

On that occasion you did go off on a tangent - or at least you failed to provide an explanation as to how it wasn't a tangent when the opportunity was given to you.

 

I almost always fail in conveying my message to you. We are too different from each other in almost every aspect.

 

 

Cezanne

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On that occasion you did go off on a tangent - or at least you failed to provide an explanation as to how it wasn't a tangent when the opportunity was given to you.

I almost always fail in conveying my message to you. We are too different from each other in almost every aspect.

So would it be possible that you kindly drop the subject, thank you!

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On that occasion you did go off on a tangent - or at least you failed to provide an explanation as to how it wasn't a tangent when the opportunity was given to you.

I almost always fail in conveying my message to you. We are too different from each other in almost every aspect.

So would it be possible that you kindly drop the subject, thank you!

 

Now I don' care who you are, that right there's funny.

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From the forum guidelines:

 

Sometimes, a discussion thread strays off into a friendly dialogue or a heated debate among a very small number of users. For these exchanges, we ask that you please use the Private Message feature that is provided through the Groundspeak forums, or the Geocaching.com e-mail system. Public forum posts should be reserved for matters of interest to the general geocaching community.

 

Please keep this guidance in mind when posting to the Release Notes thread. Off-topic and/or tangential posts may be hidden from view. Thank you.

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This thread has jumped the shark. :P

 

Suggestion/request in a nutshell:

 

Please return the option to toggle the visibility of the recently viewed caches, as many people have emphatically voiced their annoyance with having to scroll past a valuable section of real estate which they didn't have to prior to this update. It is a block of information that some find useful, and others don't care for or simply don't use. Everyone seemed happy when the option previously existed - now a large number of people are annoyed.

 

If a new UI design for that page is in the works for which this change makes sense, please hold off on removing that specific option until the new UI is rolled out (and after providing everyone with some form of prior warning or pre-testing opt-in ability)

 

Thanks! :anibad:

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Ya know, this whole discussion may become moot tomorrow. I imagine the option was dropped because the whole page is about to be redone and it "just doesn't matter." I'm on the edge of my seat with excitement! :laughing:

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Ya know, this whole discussion may become moot tomorrow. I imagine the option was dropped because the whole page is about to be redone and it "just doesn't matter." I'm on the edge of my seat with excitement! :laughing:

If the whole page is being redesigned, why did they have to change the actions of the old page?

 

They (GS) should have been expecting this discussion, as the same occurred when the first introduced the Recently View List - at least then they listened and gave us the option to not view it.

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Ya know, this whole discussion may become moot tomorrow. I imagine the option was dropped because the whole page is about to be redone and it "just doesn't matter." I'm on the edge of my seat with excitement! :laughing:

If the whole page is being redesigned, why did they have to change the actions of the old page?

 

They (GS) should have been expecting this discussion, as the same occurred when the first introduced the Recently View List - at least then they listened and gave us the option to not view it.

 

Yep, what if the "recently view caches" is being totally revamped and they had to remove the checkbox from the database for the conversion to go easier. (I'm not a DBA, so I have no clue) They had the choice, show them to everyone or remove them for everyone.. I'm guessing the number of people who hid them is MUCH smaller than those who had it displayed... Hey, most cachers probably don't care one way or another. I don't if they are listed or not. I don't care about the list of caches I've logged in the last 30 day either, so putting one before the other is irrelevant to me. Consider me the "average" cacher, and their decision was a no-brainer... I also don't care about the profile picture, mine or yours..

 

One thing I would like to see is the ability for me to organize the frames anyway I choose... Then I could put the one or two things I actually use at the top and ignore the rest...

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Yep, what if the "recently view caches" is being totally revamped and they had to remove the checkbox from the database for the conversion to go easier. (I'm not a DBA, so I have no clue) They had the choice, show them to everyone or remove them for everyone..

 

Not necessary. Client side browser cookie can store a front-end UI variable that 'remembers' whether that block of html is displayed or hidden. Very, VERY simple option.

Maybe they figure anyone who uses a browser-scripting extension will write something to do that if they really don't want to see it. :huh:

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One thing I would like to see is the ability for me to organize the frames anyway I choose... Then I could put the one or two things I actually use at the top and ignore the rest...

I wrote a GreaseMonkey script a while ago that allows me to hide some of the frames I don't use, but I didn't know how to change the order. If the next update doesn't include ability to customize, I'll dust it off and make it available. Many people don't care to install GreaseMonkey though.

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