+acachebox Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 Are virtual caches still allowed? I see holder ones that are still active but can I post a new one? Quote
+Bear and Ragged Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) Are virtual caches still allowed? I see holder ones that are still active but can I post a new one? Older ones are allowed, and are Grandfathered. New ones are not allowed. (On this site) Edited August 18, 2014 by Bear and Ragged Quote
+acachebox Posted August 18, 2014 Author Posted August 18, 2014 Are virtual caches still allowed? I see holder ones that are still active but can I post a new one? Older ones are allowed, and are Grandfathered. New ones are not allowed. (On this site) What was the reasoning for stopping them? Quote
Pup Patrol Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 Are virtual caches still allowed? I see holder ones that are still active but can I post a new one? The answer in in the Guidelines. Before you place any caches, you should thoroughly read the Guidelines. Read them more than once. Click on the blue text: those are links to open that have more information. Guidelines: http://www.geocaching.com/about/guidelines.aspx B. Quote
+TreasureHunterDan Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 What was the reasoning for stopping them? They were moved to Waymarking.com which is similar to geocaching and is also run by Groundspeak. You can use your same geocaching user name. Check it out. Quote
Pup Patrol Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 What was the reasoning for stopping them? They were moved to Waymarking.com which is similar to geocaching and is also run by Groundspeak. You can use your same geocaching user name. Check it out. That's not the reason "why" Virtual geocaches were no longer published. Doesn't matter. It was Groundspeak's decision way back in 2005 to no longer publish "Virtual" geocaches. "Why" is a moot point at this late date. B. Quote
+acachebox Posted August 18, 2014 Author Posted August 18, 2014 What was the reasoning for stopping them? They were moved to Waymarking.com which is similar to geocaching and is also run by Groundspeak. You can use your same geocaching user name. Check it out. That's not the reason "why" Virtual geocaches were no longer published. Doesn't matter. It was Groundspeak's decision way back in 2005 to no longer publish "Virtual" geocaches. "Why" is a moot point at this late date. B. There is no such thing as a moot point. We have become all to complacent to just accept things without reason. Thanks TreasureHunterDan for your suggestion. Quote
+Trotter17 Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 Getting rid of virtual caches has probably been my biggest disappointment with the changes made since 2005. Waymarking just doesn't have the same appeal to me. With virtual caches there was still typically a challenge involved, whether that was actually finding the location, deciphering a puzzle, or obtaining some information. Sure, some were easy, but others could be rather tricky. I really miss them. Quote
+Semper Questio Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 What was the reasoning for stopping them? They were moved to Waymarking.com which is similar to geocaching and is also run by Groundspeak. You can use your same geocaching user name. Check it out. That's not the reason "why" Virtual geocaches were no longer published. Doesn't matter. It was Groundspeak's decision way back in 2005 to no longer publish "Virtual" geocaches. "Why" is a moot point at this late date. B. And it is also inaccurrate. Virtuals were not moved to Waymarking. Waymarking was brought online, virtual caches were left on geocaching.com, and it was up to virtual cache owners to relist, or not relsit, them on Waymarking. Same with webcam caches. In any case, the experience of finding virtual caches and finding places on Waymarking are very different from one another. As to WHY virtuals were canned, I agree with Pup Patrol. It is rather moot. There are so many "why's"; true, made up, assumed, etc.; that it really doen't matter any more. It is not a matter of complacency. It is a matter of TPTB making it pretty darn clear that, on their site at least, virtuals; like traveling caches and webcams are gone and not at all likely to return, especially after their experiment with Challenges. Quote
+Manville Possum Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 What was the reasoning for stopping them? They were moved to Waymarking.com which is similar to geocaching and is also run by Groundspeak. You can use your same geocaching user name. Check it out. That's not the reason "why" Virtual geocaches were no longer published. Doesn't matter. It was Groundspeak's decision way back in 2005 to no longer publish "Virtual" geocaches. "Why" is a moot point at this late date. B. There is no such thing as a moot point. We have become all to complacent to just accept things without reason. Thanks TreasureHunterDan for your suggestion. I agree, that is not a good answer. As best as I understand they overwhelmed the volunteer geocache reviewers. Waymarking has many different categorys with groups that review listings for their categories. I'm a Waymarker and virtual geocacher with listings published on other geocaching services that still have a virtual geocache category. I enjoy taking photos of my GPS adventures, and I like to upload photos of my finds with my logs. I enjoy virtuals. Quote
+BAMBOOZLE Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 I agree, that is not a good answer. As best as I understand they overwhelmed the volunteer geocache reviewers. This in a nutshell.....folks were making virtuals of EVERYTHING and it was too much asking reviewers to pick and choose. Quote
+Manville Possum Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 Agreed. Waymarking has over 1000 categorys, many I find very strange. As for Web camsthey still exist. Quote
+TriciaG Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 A somewhat corny "text to video" video on why Virtual Caches were retired: Quote
+Semper Questio Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 Agreed. Waymarking has over 1000 categorys, many I find very strange. As for Web camsthey still exist. True, web cams do still exist. By "gone" I meant they, like virtuals and moving caches, can no longer be created as caches. I should have been more clear. Quote
Pup Patrol Posted August 18, 2014 Posted August 18, 2014 What was the reasoning for stopping them? They were moved to Waymarking.com which is similar to geocaching and is also run by Groundspeak. You can use your same geocaching user name. Check it out. That's not the reason "why" Virtual geocaches were no longer published. Doesn't matter. It was Groundspeak's decision way back in 2005 to no longer publish "Virtual" geocaches. "Why" is a moot point at this late date. B. There is no such thing as a moot point. We have become all to complacent to just accept things without reason. Thanks TreasureHunterDan for your suggestion. You misunderstood what I meant. Groundspeak made a decision back in 2005 to no longer publish "Virtual" caches, for whatever reason they had. I meant that it's a moot point, because all the complaining hasn't changed their mind since then. They later came up with "Waymarking", which they now suggest should take the place of "virtuals". If you like, you can add your voice to the thread calling for the return of Virtual caches: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=312487 B. Quote
+acachebox Posted August 18, 2014 Author Posted August 18, 2014 What was the reasoning for stopping them? They were moved to Waymarking.com which is similar to geocaching and is also run by Groundspeak. You can use your same geocaching user name. Check it out. That's not the reason "why" Virtual geocaches were no longer published. Doesn't matter. It was Groundspeak's decision way back in 2005 to no longer publish "Virtual" geocaches. "Why" is a moot point at this late date. B. What and where do I find and use Waymarking? There is no such thing as a moot point. We have become all to complacent to just accept things without reason. Thanks TreasureHunterDan for your suggestion. You misunderstood what I meant. Groundspeak made a decision back in 2005 to no longer publish "Virtual" caches, for whatever reason they had. I meant that it's a moot point, because all the complaining hasn't changed their mind since then. They later came up with "Waymarking", which they now suggest should take the place of "virtuals". If you like, you can add your voice to the thread calling for the return of Virtual caches: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=312487 B. Quote
+TreasureHunterDan Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 I didn't mean they were "moved" to Waymarking.com, but that new virtual caches were no longer allowed on geocaching.com and are now on Waymarking.com. I agree that the site is not as appealing as the geocaching site. Quote
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