+The Huskies Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Can somebody help me with an DISHONEST COIN DEALER. I had my 1st coin made by SoCalGeocoins Matt Schapiro in 2005/6 without a problem. I received some of the coins and he sold the rest. On 15 Dec 2007 he wrote me an mail to state that I have a credit with him for $1200.00. After numerous attempts to get the money out of him I decided to make another coin with the remaining money in his posession. The process started in Jan 2008 and the 2nd coin was done on Oct 2009. Cost was $1325 less the credit. After the sales we agreed on a $1000.00 refund. I have heen trying to get the money out of Matt but with no success. Today I received this message: "I havent stolen any money from you I made your coins and sold some, Most of them you received the rest were stolen from Jim Collins. If you want to contact him to get your money. He stole $10000 in inventory that he was supposed to sell off. Since then he will not contact me. I have been honest with you this whole time. Since I have had to take a loss on the coins and have nothing to show for it. I therefor have to pass the loss onto you. Sorry." Now I see on his facebook that he is working for Geocaching in Seattle. I live in South Africa 12000 miles from Matt Schapiro who resides in Golden Valley, Arizona. This is not an excuse for him not to pay me the money his owes me. Please advise me on what can I do to received the funds? Link to comment
+Panther&Pine Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 You only need to post this in one place. I'd suggest you find legal council. Link to comment
+The Huskies Posted April 29, 2014 Author Share Posted April 29, 2014 The problem is that he knows that legal council from South Africa to USA will cost more than $1000. Link to comment
+Panther&Pine Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 The problem is that he knows that legal council from South Africa to USA will cost more than $1000. Publically calling them out on the forums is not the way to get something done about it. I'm a little interested in why you've waited almost 5 years to do something about it. You might try contacting Groundspeak to let them know you have a bad experience with a vendor, but I doubt they can do much as coin minters are not employees. Link to comment
+ShowStop Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I know Matt and have met him personally. Never dealt with him on any coin transactions. I'm pretty confidant in saying he don't work for Groundspeak. Some people just like Geocaching as their job since that is all they seem to do. I'm a little confused on the math you posted since the numbers don't add up. But that aside, I can't really help with the situation. I do think it is wrong for him to try and pass on his loss to you. That should only happen if a company files for legal bankruptcy or goes out of business. Link to comment
+The Huskies Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 I have been trying to get the money out of him for about 3 years with a lot of empty promises. Link to comment
BlueRajah Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) This is also being discussed in the thread: COIN BUYER AND VENDOR RECEIPT/FEEDBACK As that is a more appropriate location in the Geocoin forum than here I am closing this thread and pointing people to that location. Edited May 2, 2014 by BlueRajah Link to comment
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