What do I do with a US C&GS benchmark that has come into my possession?

[Pickles2011]

I have come into possession of a US C&GS benchmark that has been removed from it's original location. No, I didn't remove it....someone else did. My father would have killed me if I had..........he was a forest ranger in his younger years. I would enclose a picture of it but don't see a way to attach one. It has the following markings V1042 and below that 1960. Can anyone tell me where it is from and what should I do with it? Thanks.

[+Walts Hunting]

I have come into possession of a US C&GS benchmark that has been removed from it's original location. No, I didn't remove it....someone else did. My father would have killed me if I had..........he was a forest ranger in his younger years. I would enclose a picture of it but don't see a way to attach one. It has the following markings V1042 and below that 1960. Can anyone tell me where it is from and what should I do with it? Thanks.

 

I would suggest you ask that is this forum

 

Benchmarks

 

You should apologize for double entering if you do since it is frowned upon or you could report your own post and ask for it to be moved there.

[+Lil Devil]

Is the benchmark from Texas? If so this might be it. I have no idea what you should do with it at this point.

[Jayme H]

Moved this thread to Benchmarks...carry on.

[mloser]

I doubt it is the one Lil Devil found. That is the only one in the database with the designation V 1042 but it was set in 1956 and the one you have is stamped 1960. There are a lot of disks that never made the NGS database, most notably a lot of CGS ones. I am not sure if you could contact them to ask. Unless it was recently removed there is probably not a lot of good in doing anything with it. I would just keep it.

[+LSUFan]

I have come into possession of a US C&GS benchmark that has been removed from it's original location. No, I didn't remove it....someone else did. My father would have killed me if I had..........he was a forest ranger in his younger years. I would enclose a picture of it but don't see a way to attach one. It has the following markings V1042 and below that 1960. Can anyone tell me where it is from and what should I do with it? Thanks.

 

It might help if you could tell what state this disk is from (if known). I tried to look at your profile to see if I could figure out which state you geocache in, but couldn't find where you had reported anything, and could only find this one forum post for that account name.

[Pickles2011]

The benchmark in question came from southern California. Thanks for the responses.

[+LSUFan]

The benchmark in question came from southern California. Thanks for the responses.

 

Thank you, that's what we needed. The mark was reported destroyed back in 1973, and is not in the active NGS database, but you can still find it in the destroyed marks list. Probably no harm in just keeping it, but I personally can't actually give you government property. Here is the datasheet for it:

 

NOTE - The station below is destroyed.

 

1 National Geodetic Survey, Retrieval Date = OCTOBER 24, 2013

EW3769 ***********************************************************************

EW3769 DESIGNATION - V 1042

EW3769 PID - EW3769

EW3769 STATE/COUNTY- CA/SANTA BARBARA

EW3769 COUNTRY - US

EW3769 USGS QUAD - GOLETA (1988)

EW3769

EW3769 *CURRENT SURVEY CONTROL

EW3769 ______________________________________________________________________

EW3769* NAD 83(1986) POSITION- 34 26 30. (N) 119 47 21. (W) SCALED

EW3769* NAVD 88 ORTHO HEIGHT - 28.73 (+/-2cm) 94.3 (feet) VERTCON

EW3769 ______________________________________________________________________

EW3769 GEOID HEIGHT - -35.61 (meters) GEOID12A

EW3769 VERT ORDER - FIRST CLASS I (See Below)

EW3769

EW3769.The horizontal coordinates were scaled from a topographic map and have

EW3769.an estimated accuracy of +/- 6 seconds.

EW3769.

EW3769.The NAVD 88 height was computed by applying the VERTCON shift value to

EW3769.the NGVD 29 height (displayed under SUPERSEDED SURVEY CONTROL.)

EW3769

EW3769.The vertical order pertains to the NGVD 29 superseded value.

EW3769

EW3769; North East Units Estimated Accuracy

EW3769;SPC CA 5 - 605,920. 1,835,590. MT (+/- 180 meters Scaled)

EW3769

EW3769 SUPERSEDED SURVEY CONTROL

EW3769

EW3769 NGVD 29 (??/??/92) 27.944 (m) 91.68 (f) ADJ UNCH 1 1

EW3769

EW3769.Superseded values are not recommended for survey control.

EW3769

EW3769.NGS no longer adjusts projects to the NAD 27 or NGVD 29 datums.

EW3769.See file dsdata.txt to determine how the superseded data were derived.

EW3769

EW3769_U.S. NATIONAL GRID SPATIAL ADDRESS: 11SKU437146(NAD 83)

EW3769

EW3769_MARKER: DB = BENCH MARK DISK

EW3769_SETTING: 0 = UNSPECIFIED SETTING

EW3769_STAMPING: V 1042 1960

EW3769_STABILITY: D = MARK OF QUESTIONABLE OR UNKNOWN STABILITY

EW3769

EW3769 HISTORY - Date Condition Report By

EW3769 HISTORY - 1960 MONUMENTED CGS

EW3769 HISTORY - 1970 GOOD NGS

EW3769 HISTORY - 1973 DESTROYED NGS

EW3769

EW3769 STATION DESCRIPTION

EW3769

EW3769'DESCRIBED BY NATIONAL GEODETIC SURVEY 1970

EW3769'1.8 MI E FROM GOLETA.

EW3769'1.85 MILES EAST ALONG THE SOUTHERN PACIFIC RAILROAD FROM THE

EW3769'STATION AT GOLETA, AT TURNPIKE ROAD OVERPASS, 14.2 FEET NORTH

EW3769'OF THE NORTH RAIL, IN THE TOP AND 2.2 FEET EAST OF THE WEST

EW3769'END OF THE CONCRETE FOUNDATION OF A FORMER OVERPASS, 18.4 FEET

EW3769'SOUTH OF THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE WEST COLUMN IN THE FIRST

EW3769'BENT NORTH OF THE TRACK OF THE PRESENT OVERPASS, 6 FEET EAST OF

EW3769'A POINT DIRECTLY UNDER THE WEST EDGE OF THE OVERPASS, AND ABOUT

EW3769'LEVEL WITH THE TRACK.

EW3769

EW3769 STATION RECOVERY (1973)

EW3769

EW3769'RECOVERY NOTE BY NATIONAL GEODETIC SURVEY 1973

EW3769'SURFACE MARK REPORTED DESTROYED.

[mloser]

Good find LSUFan!