+Doppler Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 A cache strapped to the back of a Galapagos tortoise! Apologies to all the environmentalists out there... Honest, I was just kidding! Don't hurt me! How about a multi-leg cache with each successive coordinate posted on the tips of the Eiffel Tower, Big Ben, Washington Monument, and Space Needle? (You'll find your first clue at N 48 51.5333/E 2 17.5833...) Say... has anyone placed a Bermuda Triangle cache? -- Doppler Quote Link to comment
+Doppler Posted March 11, 2002 Share Posted March 11, 2002 A cache strapped to the back of a Galapagos tortoise! Apologies to all the environmentalists out there... Honest, I was just kidding! Don't hurt me! How about a multi-leg cache with each successive coordinate posted on the tips of the Eiffel Tower, Big Ben, Washington Monument, and Space Needle? (You'll find your first clue at N 48 51.5333/E 2 17.5833...) Say... has anyone placed a Bermuda Triangle cache? -- Doppler Quote Link to comment
+Glenn Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Doppler: Say... has anyone placed a Bermuda Triangle cache? -- Doppler A multi cache with each location at one point of the triange. The triange is made up of Bermuda, Florida, and where else? To log this cache you must disappear in the Bermida Triangle and never be hear from again. ... Quote Link to comment
+Glenn Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Doppler: Say... has anyone placed a Bermuda Triangle cache? -- Doppler A multi cache with each location at one point of the triange. The triange is made up of Bermuda, Florida, and where else? To log this cache you must disappear in the Bermida Triangle and never be hear from again. ... Quote Link to comment
+martinp13 Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Geo-Vamp: A multi-cache on Boubon St. during Mardi Gras only the best and the brightest could pull that off. "HEY LADY! SHOW US YOUR.... GEOCACHE!" > Martin (Magellan 330) Don't have time to program and record your shows while geocaching? Get a TiVo! Quote Link to comment
+martinp13 Posted March 12, 2002 Share Posted March 12, 2002 quote:Originally posted by Geo-Vamp: A multi-cache on Boubon St. during Mardi Gras only the best and the brightest could pull that off. "HEY LADY! SHOW US YOUR.... GEOCACHE!" > Martin (Magellan 330) Don't have time to program and record your shows while geocaching? Get a TiVo! Quote Link to comment
Ianic Posted March 13, 2002 Share Posted March 13, 2002 How about a time cache. Something which is only available at a precise moment in time and space. Or a clue to a cache that can only be obtain at a certain location and time. A cache that is only to be opened in 50 years from now. ... To infinity... and Beyond Quote Link to comment
ecnum Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 I am a member of the American Cryptogram Associaition, and I regularly break Vigenere ciphers that have about 100 letters in the message. The normal method involves calculating the keyword from the cipher text, so breaking the text does not guarantee that a person has visited the virtual geocache. Quote Link to comment
ecnum Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 I am a member of the American Cryptogram Associaition, and I regularly break Vigenere ciphers that have about 100 letters in the message. The normal method involves calculating the keyword from the cipher text, so breaking the text does not guarantee that a person has visited the virtual geocache. Quote Link to comment
Dru Morgan Posted May 8, 2002 Share Posted May 8, 2002 quote:Originally posted by geckoguy: You guys are posting fantasy caches and no one has mentioned the Playboy Mansion? I have several friends who go there regularly, so I could place one there, but I doubt you could get inside to log the cache. Maybe a better idea would be in the bushes outside the mansion, out of range of the security cameras. Any thoughts? Half my life is spent explaining to Christians why I am a deadhead. The other half is spent explaining to deadheads why I am a Christian. -Dru Morgan www.theheavenlyhost.com Quote Link to comment
+lostinjersey Posted May 30, 2002 Share Posted May 30, 2002 abandoned mental hospital. Lord knoiws there are only like 6 or 7 within 50 miles of mt house... actually you could do that, as long as no one gave away the secret. which would be pretty much impossible.... WUHOO TEAMGWHO! Quote Link to comment
+ClayJar Posted May 30, 2002 Share Posted May 30, 2002 How about at a lighthouse six miles from land, and only if you paddle there... oh, wait, guess that's been done. Quote Link to comment
+ClayJar Posted May 30, 2002 Share Posted May 30, 2002 How about at a lighthouse six miles from land, and only if you paddle there... oh, wait, guess that's been done. Quote Link to comment
+SylvrStorm Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 quote:Originally posted by ecnum: ... so breaking the text does not guarantee that a person has visited the virtual geocache. What about a Vigenere-style cipher using numbers instead of letters, and encoding the coordinates to the next leg of a multipart geocache? The first stage could lead you to a location where you can see a numeric sign, which could be used as the decryption key for the coordinates to the second stage. There's no chance of seeking language patterns. Yes, the first couple digits might be easily guessed by assuming they are relatively close to the first set of coordinates, but this is easy to compensate for by using a long key (like a phone number) or by only encoding the last few decimal places. Thoughts? SylvrStorm Quote Link to comment
+SylvrStorm Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 quote:Originally posted by ecnum: ... so breaking the text does not guarantee that a person has visited the virtual geocache. What about a Vigenere-style cipher using numbers instead of letters, and encoding the coordinates to the next leg of a multipart geocache? The first stage could lead you to a location where you can see a numeric sign, which could be used as the decryption key for the coordinates to the second stage. There's no chance of seeking language patterns. Yes, the first couple digits might be easily guessed by assuming they are relatively close to the first set of coordinates, but this is easy to compensate for by using a long key (like a phone number) or by only encoding the last few decimal places. Thoughts? SylvrStorm Quote Link to comment
ecnum Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 (1) The person who is reading the sign would need to know how the encipherment works to figure it out. (2) If the key sequence is longer than the message, breaking the Vigenere is more difficult. The text on a historical marker would be a more difficult key to break than if the key is "Four score and seven years ago ....", since lots of people know the latter already. (3) The Quagmre 4 cipher is much more difficult to break than the Vigenere. It would require three keywords, one to scramble the plaintext alphabet, one to scramble the ciphertext alphabet, and one to select which cipher alphabet shift is used for each letter of the message. Examples of scrambled alphabets: mildzephyrsofcubagjknqtvwx uncopyrightabledfjkmqsvwxz (The usual examples of the Quagmire 4 that I solve have about 350-400 letters, with a 25-35 letter swequence of the plaintext disclosed, and take me about 3 hours to unravel. Breaking it without the partial plaintext would be possible if the message were somewhat longer, but I figure that somebody who goes to all the trouble to break a Quag 4 that way deserves credit whether they went to the virtual cache or not.) (4) Perhaps this digression about cryptanalysis should really be a different thread.) Quote Link to comment
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