Removal of Geocaches in Swinley Forest,near Bracknell

[team tisri]

If the collective thought process of all life somehow was able to intercommunicate, they would figure out a way to kill off humans in order to survive, and something as as minuscule as a virus at the right time, would be the likely culprit.

 

That's a great plot for a novel/film; perhaps you should assert copyright..

 

Well done simples.

Now you've opened up some can of worms that only Denzel, Mel or Will could possibly satisfy this crazy Americano.

Let's get back to the serious topic of this dubious post.

There's more fools on this thread than just me.

 

EDITED to be more polite.

 

But humans are alien to this planet. Why do you think there are similarities between the star of David and the freemasonry symbol, and where does that come from? There are 2 great pyramids nearly the same size sitting right next to each other, but yet all the obsessive attention is focused on the empty one. The description of "3 floors and one door or window in the side" of Noahs Ark matches the Great Pyramid, while the passages underneath of the nearby Khafre's pyramid make the form of a dove carrying an olive branch if turned upside down. The Rosicrucian Order was formed only a few years after the lower chamber was opened in the 1300s, when the Ark of the Covenant was discovered there. Yes, Noahs ark was a ship, but it was no boat...

 

In June 1967, 12 archaeologists using a muon generator discover a large mass hidden in the middle of Khafre's pyramid. Immediately the Israeli 6 day war breaks out, and they were all escorted from the area, as the region was declared unstable. Afterwards one archaeologist was allowed back in to resume testing, and declares it was all a mistake. Attention is then focused back towards the Great Pyramid.

 

You want the truth? You cant handle the truth..

 

This all seems a long way from a tract of woodland in Berkshire..........

 

Only if you don't know about the secret portals.

[+The Other Stu]

Just to add some additional noise to this thread......

 

Clearly, many people who are commenting on this thread haven't found the caches. If they had, they would know that you need quite some caching experience to find these.

This isn't some jaunt that a non-caching landowner might come upon "by chance".

 

This series was tough. Things like "fake hollowed out stones in a pile of shingle" and "pine cones in a pine tree". When you have no idea what you are looking for, it gets harder too!

 

This is by far and away my favourite series. I'm not bothered about puzzles (I'd much rather be finding caches than solving them), but I'd be surprised if there is a more difficult series of caches than this that probably have a terrain of no more than 1.5.

 

There were groups of experienced people hunting for this series who couldn't find them.

 

It's a shame that this series has been put to bed. I'd like to see someone set up a similar series.

[+peeebeee]

Just to add some additional noise to this thread......

 

Clearly, many people who are commenting on this thread haven't found the caches. If they had, they would know that you need quite some caching experience to find these.

This isn't some jaunt that a non-caching landowner might come upon "by chance".

 

This series was tough. Things like "fake hollowed out stones in a pile of shingle" and "pine cones in a pine tree". When you have no idea what you are looking for, it gets harder too!

 

This is by far and away my favourite series. I'm not bothered about puzzles (I'd much rather be finding caches than solving them), but I'd be surprised if there is a more difficult series of caches than this that probably have a terrain of no more than 1.5.

 

There were groups of experienced people hunting for this series who couldn't find them.

 

It's a shame that this series has been put to bed. I'd like to see someone set up a similar series.

 

There are still over 30 trad caches in the forest, as well as a good few puzzles and multis, including the multi at the Lookout. As a reminder, despite the title of this thread, there has been no confirmation of any of this by anyone identifiable as connected with the Forest management or any of the other stakeholder agencies.

[4wheelin_fool]

Just to add some additional noise to this thread......

 

Clearly, many people who are commenting on this thread haven't found the caches. If they had, they would know that you need quite some caching experience to find these.

This isn't some jaunt that a non-caching landowner might come upon "by chance".

 

This series was tough. Things like "fake hollowed out stones in a pile of shingle" and "pine cones in a pine tree". When you have no idea what you are looking for, it gets harder too!

 

This is by far and away my favourite series. I'm not bothered about puzzles (I'd much rather be finding caches than solving them), but I'd be surprised if there is a more difficult series of caches than this that probably have a terrain of no more than 1.5.

 

There were groups of experienced people hunting for this series who couldn't find them.

 

It's a shame that this series has been put to bed. I'd like to see someone set up a similar series.

 

There are still over 30 trad caches in the forest, as well as a good few puzzles and multis, including the multi at the Lookout. As a reminder, despite the title of this thread, there has been no confirmation of any of this by anyone identifiable as connected with the Forest management or any of the other stakeholder agencies.

 

I would have hoped that by now a geocacher would have contacted an employee at the Discovery Centre and obtained permission. Questioning the validity of the poster, while avoiding the employees at the location is not going to get you very far. Offer to hold a few CITO events in exchange for placements if they balk. It is likely that the OP found a container that was archived for non maintenance. Most muggles usually just remove caches without any communication which is frustrating. In this instance you have both communication and possible motive, which should help, as it is better than nothing.

[+peeebeee]

Just to add some additional noise to this thread......

 

Clearly, many people who are commenting on this thread haven't found the caches. If they had, they would know that you need quite some caching experience to find these.

This isn't some jaunt that a non-caching landowner might come upon "by chance".

 

This series was tough. Things like "fake hollowed out stones in a pile of shingle" and "pine cones in a pine tree". When you have no idea what you are looking for, it gets harder too!

 

This is by far and away my favourite series. I'm not bothered about puzzles (I'd much rather be finding caches than solving them), but I'd be surprised if there is a more difficult series of caches than this that probably have a terrain of no more than 1.5.

 

There were groups of experienced people hunting for this series who couldn't find them.

 

It's a shame that this series has been put to bed. I'd like to see someone set up a similar series.

 

There are still over 30 trad caches in the forest, as well as a good few puzzles and multis, including the multi at the Lookout. As a reminder, despite the title of this thread, there has been no confirmation of any of this by anyone identifiable as connected with the Forest management or any of the other stakeholder agencies.

 

I would have hoped that by now a geocacher would have contacted an employee at the Discovery Centre and obtained permission. Questioning the validity of the poster, while avoiding the employees at the location is not going to get you very far. Offer to hold a few CITO events in exchange for placements if they balk. It is likely that the OP found a container that was archived for non maintenance. Most muggles usually just remove caches without any communication which is frustrating. In this instance you have both communication and possible motive, which should help, as it is better than nothing.

 

The matter is being dealt with effectively at a local level. If you read back through the thread you'll see mentioned that what you're suggesting is exactly what has happened. There is a good local relationship with one of the many stakeholder agencies who maintain a lot of the area and run the Lookout Discovery Centre, and that agency knows nothing about the ban. Another local cacher has an inside relationship with the parks department of the local council, who know nothing either. Enquiries are continuing, including contact by reviewers with the OP who hasn't been able to produce anyone to confirm his post.

[+metal-bijou]

The 2 caches outside the series that I posted NAs on can always be unarchived once it is verified that the area has permission, or that they are okay to be listed.

 

Oh I hate politics of geocaching and I am about to step in make a fool of my self. However:

 

There is a geocache in the forest that is archived and LOCKED due to politics. It is safe dry and well maintained. It has full visibility of staff on location and permission yet due to a historic spat we can't log finds let alone have it unarchived and adopt the cache. I raise as once controversey surrounds a cache, it is harder to unarchive. Better to argue before it gets binned.

 

LOTC maybe a sock puppet account but it is not a secret. Judgement has been made that leafy is official at the centre rather than the possibility of another sock puppet by someone wanting to cause mischief. To me this is as logical an explanation as the number of spats people have openly had against LOTC is vast and often been recorded in public. Ok this isn't politics but just a nasty side of caching. Fueled here by "outsiders" (sorry, can't think of the appropriate phrase).

 

I was going to talk about local level reviewing here but others have done a much better job than I could have done. LOTC caches will be managed over time just like other circuits he setup have gone. I'm of course not saying these local caches are ony for local cachers discussion but... it might help.

 

Drat I've potentially been biten by a troll. I know it and yet I still post. I do hope leafy is inicent to all of this and not a troll but I doubt it.

[+metal-bijou]

Teach me to read half way down and get frustrated enough to respond. Most prevent that in future.

 

And yet I managed other threads due to not loggin on, if I hadn't logged on to see who leafy was I probably would have gotten to the end and relaxed.

 

Oh well. Told you all I'd make a fool of myself.

[+The Other Stu]

I would have hoped that by now a geocacher would have contacted an employee at the Discovery Centre and obtained permission. Questioning the validity of the poster, while avoiding the employees at the location is not going to get you very far. Offer to hold a few CITO events in exchange for placements if they balk. It is likely that the OP found a container that was archived for non maintenance. Most muggles usually just remove caches without any communication which is frustrating. In this instance you have both communication and possible motive, which should help, as it is better than nothing.

 

I think we all know about the validity of the OP.

 

I'm perhaps a little naive here, but what's your part in all this?

Your from New Jersey and yet seem to have a lot to say about Lord of the Cachers? Have you had chance to search for this series by chance? or some of the others that he set?

[4wheelin_fool]

I would have hoped that by now a geocacher would have contacted an employee at the Discovery Centre and obtained permission. Questioning the validity of the poster, while avoiding the employees at the location is not going to get you very far. Offer to hold a few CITO events in exchange for placements if they balk. It is likely that the OP found a container that was archived for non maintenance. Most muggles usually just remove caches without any communication which is frustrating. In this instance you have both communication and possible motive, which should help, as it is better than nothing.

 

I think we all know about the validity of the OP.

 

I'm perhaps a little naive here, but what's your part in all this?

Your from New Jersey and yet seem to have a lot to say about Lord of the Cachers? Have you had chance to search for this series by chance? or some of the others that he set?

 

Lets see, it appears that I accidentally fed a troll while this was still in the general forums, then I attempted to distract everyone away from that fact by posting that humans are aliens, as well as displaying poor reading comprehension. Now I am called here because somehow I put this thread on a watchlist, and I am too lazy to figure out how to remove it. Other than that, I do hope to be in the UK within a few years to find a few which look interesting!

[+Puzbie]

I would have hoped that by now a geocacher would have contacted an employee at the Discovery Centre and obtained permission. Questioning the validity of the poster, while avoiding the employees at the location is not going to get you very far. Offer to hold a few CITO events in exchange for placements if they balk. It is likely that the OP found a container that was archived for non maintenance. Most muggles usually just remove caches without any communication which is frustrating. In this instance you have both communication and possible motive, which should help, as it is better than nothing.

 

I think we all know about the validity of the OP.

 

I'm perhaps a little naive here, but what's your part in all this?

Your from New Jersey and yet seem to have a lot to say about Lord of the Cachers? Have you had chance to search for this series by chance? or some of the others that he set?

 

Lets see, it appears that I accidentally fed a troll while this was still in the general forums, then I attempted to distract everyone away from that fact by posting that humans are aliens, as well as displaying poor reading comprehension. Now I am called here because somehow I put this thread on a watchlist, and I am too lazy to figure out how to remove it. Other than that, I do hope to be in the UK within a few years to find a few which look interesting!

 

Why don't you try answering his question?

 

And here's another question: why do you care what your NA stat is?

 

And a third and final question: how would you feel if somebody from a completely different continent went and flagged a load of caches near your location for archiving, for no reason other than they wanted to boost their NA stats.

[4wheelin_fool]

I would have hoped that by now a geocacher would have contacted an employee at the Discovery Centre and obtained permission. Questioning the validity of the poster, while avoiding the employees at the location is not going to get you very far. Offer to hold a few CITO events in exchange for placements if they balk. It is likely that the OP found a container that was archived for non maintenance. Most muggles usually just remove caches without any communication which is frustrating. In this instance you have both communication and possible motive, which should help, as it is better than nothing.

 

I think we all know about the validity of the OP.

 

I'm perhaps a little naive here, but what's your part in all this?

Your from New Jersey and yet seem to have a lot to say about Lord of the Cachers? Have you had chance to search for this series by chance? or some of the others that he set?

 

Lets see, it appears that I accidentally fed a troll while this was still in the general forums, then I attempted to distract everyone away from that fact by posting that humans are aliens, as well as displaying poor reading comprehension. Now I am called here because somehow I put this thread on a watchlist, and I am too lazy to figure out how to remove it. Other than that, I do hope to be in the UK within a few years to find a few which look interesting!

 

Why don't you try answering his question?

 

And here's another question: why do you care what your NA stat is?

 

And a third and final question: how would you feel if somebody from a completely different continent went and flagged a load of caches near your location for archiving, for no reason other than they wanted to boost their NA stats.

 

It wasn't to boost my NA stats, as no such thing exists. I was kidding.

 

If someone posts valid NA logs, I don't care where they are from, nor should it matter. There are several dozen that probably deserve it, but nobody wants to do the deed and be known as the bad guy. Typically this seems to be evident in many places. Cachers will complain that everything needs maintenance or is abandoned, but nobody is willing to post the NAs or NMs. There is no need to get offended at a log type. If it is valid it gets acted upon. If not, it gets left alone.

[+peeebeee]

I would have hoped that by now a geocacher would have contacted an employee at the Discovery Centre and obtained permission. Questioning the validity of the poster, while avoiding the employees at the location is not going to get you very far. Offer to hold a few CITO events in exchange for placements if they balk. It is likely that the OP found a container that was archived for non maintenance. Most muggles usually just remove caches without any communication which is frustrating. In this instance you have both communication and possible motive, which should help, as it is better than nothing.

 

I think we all know about the validity of the OP.

 

I'm perhaps a little naive here, but what's your part in all this?

Your from New Jersey and yet seem to have a lot to say about Lord of the Cachers? Have you had chance to search for this series by chance? or some of the others that he set?

 

Lets see, it appears that I accidentally fed a troll while this was still in the general forums, then I attempted to distract everyone away from that fact by posting that humans are aliens, as well as displaying poor reading comprehension. Now I am called here because somehow I put this thread on a watchlist, and I am too lazy to figure out how to remove it. Other than that, I do hope to be in the UK within a few years to find a few which look interesting!

 

Why don't you try answering his question?

 

And here's another question: why do you care what your NA stat is?

 

And a third and final question: how would you feel if somebody from a completely different continent went and flagged a load of caches near your location for archiving, for no reason other than they wanted to boost their NA stats.

 

It wasn't to boost my NA stats, as no such thing exists. I was kidding.

 

If someone posts valid NA logs, I don't care where they are from, nor should it matter. There are several dozen that probably deserve it, but nobody wants to do the deed and be known as the bad guy. Typically this seems to be evident in many places. Cachers will complain that everything needs maintenance or is abandoned, but nobody is willing to post the NAs or NMs. There is no need to get offended at a log type. If it is valid it gets acted upon. If not, it gets left alone.

 

True in theory. But it doesn't help when someone from another continent does it with absolutely no knowledge of the local situation, and in doing so makes comments about keeping their NA log score up. It sets hares running. All completely unnecessary.

[+AmayaTom]

 

There is a geocache in the forest that is archived and LOCKED due to politics. It is safe dry and well maintained. It has full visibility of staff on location and permission yet due to a historic spat we can't log finds let alone have it unarchived and adopt the cache. I raise as once controversey surrounds a cache, it is harder to unarchive. Better to argue before it gets binned.

 

This is all true, and it isn't the only cache in the forest that is archived and locked for that reason.

I know for a fact that there are at least two caches in Swinley Forest that the staff in the Dicovery Centre know all about, know where they are and are more than happy with them, so I find the Original Post stating that the Land Owner isn't happy, very hard to believe.

 

LOTC maybe a sock puppet account but it is not a secret.

 

Again, this is completely true. LOTC was originally a psuedonym for somebody that wanted to publish a lot of caches and to stir up a lot of talk on the forums/events as to who exactly was doing it. It resulted in a large event where he came out (with his real identity). Whilst his maintenance record is far from good, he gave a lot of people a lot of finds and a lot of pleasure into the bargain (especially as at the time he was doing it, there weren't many power trails actually out there).

When you own many hundreds of caches, it is going to be a bit of a job trying to maintain them all, especially when they get so many hits. Half of the UK caching community knows exactly who the sock puppet account belongs to (and it isn't me I hasten to add).

 

So that brings me to people posting NA posts on caches in countries they have never even been to. Surely, just as a cacher posting a find on a cache should have actually been to the cache location, so should somebody posting an NA. How can you make an informed judgement (UK spelling) otherwise? All you are then doing is just making spurious noise.